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Posted to users@netbeans.apache.org by Paul Szudzik <ps...@throwarock.com> on 2018/10/26 13:26:51 UTC

NetBeans, JavaFX and Java11

I’ve been a developer for more than 50 years, yes, I am an old “Salt” here past his prime possibly, but still actively coding.

To me, the IDE is the gateway to this world, and I embraced NetBeans IDE long, long time ago, starting with it’s Beta, to give me tools that I need to get the job done. And NetBeans filled that breach over the decades. But now, it seems that all I can run into is roadblocks that are preventing me from getting my jobs done.

I updated my Linux machine with NetBeans 9, and made the unfortunate mistake of selecting the JDK 11 because of some constraints in a module I required to support. I was taken back to find that JavaFX integration has been taken out In fact, I felt humiliated yesterday trying to figure out how to get JavaFX back into the system, and still use JDK 11 on Linux.

I failed... The searches on line provided a bit here and a bit there, but the bottom line was that I can no longer debug on NetBeans IDE, even my compiles aren’t working, and all I see is a lot of red on all my module sources... I tried adding the JavaFX SDK to my module paths, but still stymied.

So........ here is the question..

Why is this so darn hard for the developers.. This should be a Plugin option, I click on in NetBeans to get my IDE working .. Developers should be able to load the tool, and use it. Do you realize how much money, dollars, euros, whatever, is being wasted trying to get this stuff to work on an update? I know the Open Source community feels the pain. I know the communities job is hard because they do support all these other things.. Maven, Gradle, PHP, Ruby ...the list goes on. We use the IDE because it can do the job.. not be an impediment.. I’ll admit I am not as sharp as I was a decade or two ago, but I still have better things to work on than trying to figure out how to get my IDE back alive. ( It is, as far as I am concerned... dead in the water right now. )

Not sure what I am asking for, perhaps better Primary Language integration, I saw tons of posts about JavaFX as being the possible GUI someday, so this is along those lines. Sorry.. very frustrated.

Re: NetBeans, JavaFX and Java11

Posted by joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>.

Was this ever resolved?  I am running into the same issue.

Thanks

BC
________________________________
From: Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com.INVALID>
Sent: November 16, 2018 1:31 PM
To: users@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: NetBeans, JavaFX and Java11

On 10/26/2018 08:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdBmPfzeyM

Following these instructions (which now appear on the openjfx.io site),
I can run a sample program, but the debugger doesn't work right. I did
change the goal for both the run and debug actions from exec to java.

What I'm seeing is that a) breakpoints don't work, and b) when I exit
the program, the debugger appears to keep running (red square "Finish
Debugger Session" icon still active in the toolbar).

Anybody else seeing this? Any suggestions?

--
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

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Re: NetBeans, JavaFX and Java11

Posted by Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com.INVALID>.

On 10/26/2018 08:30 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdBmPfzeyM

Following these instructions (which now appear on the openjfx.io site),
I can run a sample program, but the debugger doesn't work right. I did
change the goal for both the run and debug actions from exec to java.

What I'm seeing is that a) breakpoints don't work, and b) when I exit
the program, the debugger appears to keep running (red square "Finish
Debugger Session" icon still active in the toolbar).

Anybody else seeing this? Any suggestions?

-- 
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

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Re: NetBeans, JavaFX and Java11

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.

JavaF is not in JDK 11. Nothing that NetBeans can do about that.

Can you watch these two YouTube screencasts that should help you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9aoicDiQ_A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdBmPfzeyM

Gj


On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 6:27 AM Paul Szudzik <ps...@throwarock.com>
wrote:

>
>      I’ve been a developer for more than 50 years, yes, I am an old “Salt”
> here past his prime possibly, but still actively coding.
>
>     To me, the IDE is the gateway to this world, and I embraced NetBeans
> IDE long, long time ago, starting with it’s Beta, to give me tools that I
> need to get the job done. And NetBeans filled that breach over the
> decades.  But now, it seems that all I can run into is roadblocks that are
> preventing me from getting my jobs done.
>
>     I updated my Linux machine with NetBeans 9, and made the unfortunate
> mistake of selecting the JDK 11 because of some constraints in a module I
> required to support.  I was taken back to find that JavaFX integration has
> been taken out  In fact, I felt humiliated yesterday trying to figure out
> how to get JavaFX back into the system, and still use JDK 11 on Linux.
>
>     I failed... The searches on line provided a bit here and a bit there,
> but the bottom line was that I can no longer debug on NetBeans IDE, even my
> compiles aren’t working, and all I see is a lot of red on all my module
> sources...  I tried adding the JavaFX SDK to my module paths, but still
> stymied.
>
>     So........  here is the question..
>
>     Why is this so darn hard for the developers.. This should be a Plugin
> option, I click on in NetBeans to get my IDE working ..  Developers should
> be able to load the tool, and use it. Do you realize how much money,
> dollars, euros, whatever, is being wasted trying to get this stuff to work
> on an update?  I know the Open Source community feels the pain. I know the
> communities job is hard because they do support all these other things..
> Maven, Gradle, PHP, Ruby ...the list goes on.  We use the IDE because it
> can do the job.. not be an impediment..  I’ll admit I am not as sharp as I
> was a decade or two ago, but I still have better things to work on than
> trying to figure out how to get my IDE back alive. ( It is, as far as I am
> concerned... dead in the water right now. )
>
>     Not sure what I am asking for, perhaps better Primary Language
> integration, I saw tons of posts about JavaFX as being the possible GUI
> someday, so this is along those lines.  Sorry.. very frustrated.
>
>
>

Re: NetBeans, JavaFX and Java11

Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.

In the case of JavaFX, JavaFX is not in JDK 11. Nothing that NetBeans can
do about that.

It would be great to have some of those on this mailing list watching these
two YouTube screencasts that should help you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9aoicDiQ_A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCdBmPfzeyM

The sound in these two is not always great because the first was recorded
in a hotel lobby and the second in a Chinese restaurant.

Gj

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 7:41 AM Josef Stadelmann <st...@datazug.ch>
wrote:

> I can only recommend you to go back and use the latest stable working
> configuration and let other pioneers with time to get the Indian spear into
> the back. I was once as well a full enthusiast and always jumped to new
> things. But then it goes at it was going with the early pioneers. Spears
> and arraws…. And you have to do your job. That is while many bank and
> insurance company jump over major versions of i.e. an operating system,
> i.e. left of XP. And went from windows 2000 to windows 7 not having all the
> pain XP users had. And the like for IDE’s.
>
>
>
> Have a god one
>
> Josef
>
>
>
> *Von:* Paul Szudzik <ps...@throwarock.com>
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 26. Oktober 2018 09:27
> *An:* Netbeans <us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> *Betreff:* NetBeans, JavaFX and Java11
>
>
>
>
>
>      I’ve been a developer for more than 50 years, yes, I am an old “Salt”
> here past his prime possibly, but still actively coding.
>
>
>
>     To me, the IDE is the gateway to this world, and I embraced NetBeans
> IDE long, long time ago, starting with it’s Beta, to give me tools that I
> need to get the job done. And NetBeans filled that breach over the
> decades.  But now, it seems that all I can run into is roadblocks that are
> preventing me from getting my jobs done.
>
>
>
>     I updated my Linux machine with NetBeans 9, and made the unfortunate
> mistake of selecting the JDK 11 because of some constraints in a module I
> required to support.  I was taken back to find that JavaFX integration has
> been taken out  In fact, I felt humiliated yesterday trying to figure out
> how to get JavaFX back into the system, and still use JDK 11 on Linux.
>
>
>
>     I failed... The searches on line provided a bit here and a bit there,
> but the bottom line was that I can no longer debug on NetBeans IDE, even my
> compiles aren’t working, and all I see is a lot of red on all my module
> sources...  I tried adding the JavaFX SDK to my module paths, but still
> stymied.
>
>
>
>     So........  here is the question..
>
>
>
>     Why is this so darn hard for the developers.. This should be a Plugin
> option, I click on in NetBeans to get my IDE working ..  Developers should
> be able to load the tool, and use it. Do you realize how much money,
> dollars, euros, whatever, is being wasted trying to get this stuff to work
> on an update?  I know the Open Source community feels the pain. I know the
> communities job is hard because they do support all these other things..
> Maven, Gradle, PHP, Ruby ...the list goes on.  We use the IDE because it
> can do the job.. not be an impediment..  I’ll admit I am not as sharp as I
> was a decade or two ago, but I still have better things to work on than
> trying to figure out how to get my IDE back alive. ( It is, as far as I am
> concerned... dead in the water right now. )
>
>
>
>     Not sure what I am asking for, perhaps better Primary Language
> integration, I saw tons of posts about JavaFX as being the possible GUI
> someday, so this is along those lines.  Sorry.. very frustrated.
>
>
>
>
>

AW: NetBeans, JavaFX and Java11

Posted by Josef Stadelmann <st...@datazug.ch>.

I can only recommend you to go back and use the latest stable working configuration and let other pioneers with time to get the Indian spear into the back. I was once as well a full enthusiast and always jumped to new things. But then it goes at it was going with the early pioneers. Spears and arraws…. And you have to do your job. That is while many bank and insurance company jump over major versions of i.e. an operating system, i.e. left of XP. And went from windows 2000 to windows 7 not having all the pain XP users had. And the like for IDE’s.

Have a god one

Josef

Von: Paul Szudzik <ps...@throwarock.com>
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Oktober 2018 09:27
An: Netbeans <us...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
Betreff: NetBeans, JavaFX and Java11

I’ve been a developer for more than 50 years, yes, I am an old “Salt” here past his prime possibly, but still actively coding.

So........ here is the question..

Not sure what I am asking for, perhaps better Primary Language integration, I saw tons of posts about JavaFX as being the possible GUI someday, so this is along those lines. Sorry.. very frustrated.