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[DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Good time of the time to all!
I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion, comments
and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its acceptance
into Incubator.
People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were behind
the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in China)
as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the graduation.
I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just started in
WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways of
doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping this
group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will see
it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache ecosystem
and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you are
interested.
With best regards,
The project's proposal is available at [1].
Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
Eason Chen
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/EventMeshProposal
Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
If you want to do the name search before being accepted then please submit a JIRA here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH/
You then provide the results of your search in the issue. The trademark committee / VP, Brand will review. This might take a few weeks.
It is up to you whether you want to gate this proposal on name approval.
Otherwise it’s as Sheng Wu wrote.
Regards,
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 27, 2021, at 5:44 AM, Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is just a reminder, not an instruction.
> The naming search and approval will officially happen when you are powerful
> enough to graduate.
> Personally, I would like to see this as a potential risk, not just
> regarding Solace.
>
> Of course, this is your option. you should know, if you can't get approval
> in the future, you will have a much bigger branding hurt.
> (You don't need to convince me)
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> ShannonDing <di...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午9:23写道：
>
>>
>>
>> I would like to make a comments about this serious problem too,
>> In order not to cause unnecessary trouble in the future, we also request
>> the infra member from apache to help check whether this name is
>> appropriate[1].
>> For us, we have used the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to
>> keep it so that users can get better product positioning from this name.
>> According to this document[2], we also searched in the US Patent Office[3]
>> and found no non-compliance.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
>> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
>> [3] https://www.uspto.gov/trademark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/27/2021 21:11，Eason Chen<ch...@apache.org> wrote：
>> @Sheng Wu
>> thank you for your kindly reminder. I would like to clarify this concerns.
>>
>> As @Duane Pauls <du...@gmail.com> clarified this before:
>> “*I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we do not
>> have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it is
>> something our products are closely aligned with。 Solace does not oppose the
>> term being used in other applicable products or projects.*”
>> Solace do not have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I want to send a reminder for your project name chosen.
>> Event Mesh is widely used as a concept and term, you could find it through
>> Google search, https://www.google.com/search?q=event+mesh&oq=event+mesh
>>
>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>
>>
>> <fp...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午5:12写道：
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, it looks very promising.
>>
>> I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate the
>> project into Karaf with JB ;)
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> François
>> fpapon@apache.org
>>
>> Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
>> importance to this project according to the feedback given by
>> communities.
>> Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
>> changes in the project and community.
>>
>> @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
>> to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Von Gosling
>>
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
>>
>> Hi Eason,
>>
>> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
>>
>> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
>>
>> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning
>> that
>> we
>> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
>>
>> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
>> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
>> écrit :
>> Good time of the time to all!
>>
>> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
>> comments
>> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its
>> acceptance
>> into Incubator.
>>
>> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
>> behind
>> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
>> China)
>> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
>> graduation.
>> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
>> started
>> in
>> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
>> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
>> of
>> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
>> this
>> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
>>
>> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
>> see
>> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
>> ecosystem
>> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
>>
>> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you
>> are
>> interested.
>>
>> With best regards,
>>
>> The project's proposal is available at [1].
>>
>> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
>>
>> Eason Chen
>>
>> [1]
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
Hi -
PODLINGNAMESEARCH-189 for EventMesh has been approved.
Regards,
Dave
> On Feb 2, 2021, at 1:33 AM, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> "*On one hand we don’t have a policy that say you must have to have done a
> name search before becoming a piddling, on the other changing a name does
> incur a large community cost and Infra would prefer that podlings don’t
> change names. Most podlings do the name search just before graduation. In a
> lot of cases it fairly obvious there is not going to be an issue, with a
> generic name like this it may be best to wait until the name is approved
> before calling the results of the vote.*"
> Thanks for Justin's clarification, i also want to add a few words:
>
> I'm sorry, my words caused unnecessary confusion. I am still following up
> on this issue[1]. I must admit that this name is a very serious problem. By
> reading Apache’s regulations [2], I found that "*the original Podding
> proposal established a working name for the new Podding. During the
> election process, there are often discussions and filtering of suitable
> names, but the proposed name is not final, just temporary*"
> I am tring my best to ensure that it is resolved before the formal
> incubation.
>
> [1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-188? filter =
> -4&jql = project%20%3D%20PODLINGNAMESEARCH%20order%20by%20created%20DESC
> [2]: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 5:14 PM Alexander Alten <al...@scalytics.io> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Fully agree with Justin, we from Wayang had the same problem. We
>> renamed the project before we submitted the proposal, and we
>> documented everything.
>> I’d encourage you to find a name which is TM ready in the US, India,
>> CN and EU (if possible). You can’t graduate (or better it is unlikely)
>> if a project name is not protectable by the ASF. And changing the
>> whole INFRA after a podling is voted into the incubator is a huge
>> effort.
>>
>> --alex
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 9:52 AM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On one hand we don’t have a policy that say you must have to have done a
>> name search before becoming a piddling, on the other changing a name does
>> incur a large community cost and Infra would prefer that podlings don’t
>> change names. Most podlings do the name search just before graduation. In a
>> lot of cases it fairly obvious there is not going to be an issue, with a
>> generic name like this it may be best to wait until the name is approved
>> before calling the results of the vote.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org>.
Hi,
"*On one hand we don’t have a policy that say you must have to have done a
name search before becoming a piddling, on the other changing a name does
incur a large community cost and Infra would prefer that podlings don’t
change names. Most podlings do the name search just before graduation. In a
lot of cases it fairly obvious there is not going to be an issue, with a
generic name like this it may be best to wait until the name is approved
before calling the results of the vote.*"
Thanks for Justin's clarification, i also want to add a few words:
I'm sorry, my words caused unnecessary confusion. I am still following up
on this issue[1]. I must admit that this name is a very serious problem. By
reading Apache’s regulations [2], I found that "*the original Podding
proposal established a working name for the new Podding. During the
election process, there are often discussions and filtering of suitable
names, but the proposed name is not final, just temporary*"
I am tring my best to ensure that it is resolved before the formal
incubation.
[1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-188? filter =
-4&jql = project%20%3D%20PODLINGNAMESEARCH%20order%20by%20created%20DESC
[2]: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 5:14 PM Alexander Alten <al...@scalytics.io> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Fully agree with Justin, we from Wayang had the same problem. We
> renamed the project before we submitted the proposal, and we
> documented everything.
> I’d encourage you to find a name which is TM ready in the US, India,
> CN and EU (if possible). You can’t graduate (or better it is unlikely)
> if a project name is not protectable by the ASF. And changing the
> whole INFRA after a podling is voted into the incubator is a huge
> effort.
>
> --alex
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 9:52 AM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On one hand we don’t have a policy that say you must have to have done a
> name search before becoming a piddling, on the other changing a name does
> incur a large community cost and Infra would prefer that podlings don’t
> change names. Most podlings do the name search just before graduation. In a
> lot of cases it fairly obvious there is not going to be an issue, with a
> generic name like this it may be best to wait until the name is approved
> before calling the results of the vote.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
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> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Alexander Alten <al...@scalytics.io>.
Hi,
Fully agree with Justin, we from Wayang had the same problem. We
renamed the project before we submitted the proposal, and we
documented everything.
I’d encourage you to find a name which is TM ready in the US, India,
CN and EU (if possible). You can’t graduate (or better it is unlikely)
if a project name is not protectable by the ASF. And changing the
whole INFRA after a podling is voted into the incubator is a huge
effort.
--alex
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 9:52 AM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On one hand we don’t have a policy that say you must have to have done a name search before becoming a piddling, on the other changing a name does incur a large community cost and Infra would prefer that podlings don’t change names. Most podlings do the name search just before graduation. In a lot of cases it fairly obvious there is not going to be an issue, with a generic name like this it may be best to wait until the name is approved before calling the results of the vote.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
On one hand we don’t have a policy that say you must have to have done a name search before becoming a piddling, on the other changing a name does incur a large community cost and Infra would prefer that podlings don’t change names. Most podlings do the name search just before graduation. In a lot of cases it fairly obvious there is not going to be an issue, with a generic name like this it may be best to wait until the name is approved before calling the results of the vote.
Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@comcast.net>.
Hi -
A Name Search was started but not completed.
I’m surprised that a vote was started while that was still active.
Regards,
Dave
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> On Jan 31, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> All problems and risks seem to be well clarified and resolved. Next, I will
> initiate a vote, thank you for your attention and continued participation.
>
> Regards,
> Eason
>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 1:00 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Exactly. Here’s a link -
>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#namesearch
>>
>> It’s available from here -
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#podling_suitable_name_search
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> To help trademarks it would bee best if you provided them with some
>> search results as described here. [1] Have a look at a couple of the other
>> recent polling name search JIRAs to get a good idea of what is needed.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> 1. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org>.
All problems and risks seem to be well clarified and resolved. Next, I will
initiate a vote, thank you for your attention and continued participation.
Regards,
Eason
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 1:00 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> Exactly. Here’s a link -
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#namesearch
>
> It’s available from here -
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#podling_suitable_name_search
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 27, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > To help trademarks it would bee best if you provided them with some
> search results as described here. [1] Have a look at a couple of the other
> recent polling name search JIRAs to get a good idea of what is needed.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > 1. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
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> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
Exactly. Here’s a link - https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#namesearch
It’s available from here - https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#podling_suitable_name_search
Regards,
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 27, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> To help trademarks it would bee best if you provided them with some search results as described here. [1] Have a look at a couple of the other recent polling name search JIRAs to get a good idea of what is needed.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
To help trademarks it would bee best if you provided them with some search results as described here. [1] Have a look at a couple of the other recent polling name search JIRAs to get a good idea of what is needed.
Thanks,
Justin
1. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org>.
Thank you for your correction, a PODLINGNAMESEARCH issue has been created
and followed up.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-188
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 9:21 AM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Jan 27, 2021, at 4:58 PM, vongosling <fe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Agree to raise this issue, even before podling starts. Initial teams
> need
> > to follow up on this potential problem[1]. Let's see how things go :-)
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
>
> No! Naming is not an INFRA issue. Please see my other note.
>
> >
> > Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> 于2021年1月28日周四 上午12:35写道：
> >
> >> It's typically a good idea to figure out your project name early on.
> >> If you have to change the name before graduation in order to get a
> >> trademark, then that wastes the momentum gathered under the old name.
> >> That can always happen after the podling boots up, though.
> >>
> >>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 07:44, Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This is just a reminder, not an instruction.
> >>> The naming search and approval will officially happen when you are
> >> powerful
> >>> enough to graduate.
> >>> Personally, I would like to see this as a potential risk, not just
> >>> regarding Solace.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, this is your option. you should know, if you can't get
> >> approval
> >>> in the future, you will have a much bigger branding hurt.
> >>> (You don't need to convince me)
> >>>
> >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ShannonDing <di...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午9:23写道：
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to make a comments about this serious problem too,
> >>>> In order not to cause unnecessary trouble in the future, we also
> >> request
> >>>> the infra member from apache to help check whether this name is
> >>>> appropriate[1].
> >>>> For us, we have used the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want
> to
> >>>> keep it so that users can get better product positioning from this
> >> name.
> >>>> According to this document[2], we also searched in the US Patent
> >> Office[3]
> >>>> and found no non-compliance.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
> >>>> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
> >>>> [3] https://www.uspto.gov/trademark
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 01/27/2021 21:11，Eason Chen<ch...@apache.org> wrote：
> >>>> @Sheng Wu
> >>>> thank you for your kindly reminder. I would like to clarify this
> >> concerns.
> >>>>
> >>>> As @Duane Pauls <du...@gmail.com> clarified this before:
> >>>> “*I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we
> >> do not
> >>>> have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it
> >> is
> >>>> something our products are closely aligned with。 Solace does not
> >> oppose the
> >>>> term being used in other applicable products or projects.*”
> >>>> Solace do not have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event
> >> Mesh”.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi
> >>>>
> >>>> I want to send a reminder for your project name chosen.
> >>>> Event Mesh is widely used as a concept and term, you could find it
> >> through
> >>>> Google search,
> >> https://www.google.com/search?q=event+mesh&oq=event+mesh
> >>>>
> >>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> >>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> <fp...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午5:12写道：
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, it looks very promising.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate
> >> the
> >>>> project into Karaf with JB ;)
> >>>>
> >>>> regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> François
> >>>> fpapon@apache.org
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
> >>>> importance to this project according to the feedback given by
> >>>> communities.
> >>>> Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
> >>>> changes in the project and community.
> >>>>
> >>>> @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
> >>>> to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
> >>>>
> >>>> Best Regards,
> >>>> Von Gosling
> >>>>
> >>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Eason,
> >>>>
> >>>> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
> >>>>
> >>>> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning
> >>>> that
> >>>> we
> >>>> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
> >>>> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> JB
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
> >>>> écrit :
> >>>> Good time of the time to all!
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
> >>>> comments
> >>>> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its
> >>>> acceptance
> >>>> into Incubator.
> >>>>
> >>>> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
> >>>> behind
> >>>> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
> >>>> China)
> >>>> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
> >>>> graduation.
> >>>> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
> >>>> started
> >>>> in
> >>>> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
> >>>> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
> >>>> of
> >>>> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
> >>>> this
> >>>> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
> >>>>
> >>>> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
> >>>> see
> >>>> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
> >>>> ecosystem
> >>>> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
> >>>>
> >>>> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you
> >>>> are
> >>>> interested.
> >>>>
> >>>> With best regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> The project's proposal is available at [1].
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
> >>>>
> >>>> Eason Chen
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>.
> On Jan 27, 2021, at 4:58 PM, vongosling <fe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Agree to raise this issue, even before podling starts. Initial teams need
> to follow up on this potential problem[1]. Let's see how things go :-)
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
No! Naming is not an INFRA issue. Please see my other note.
>
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> 于2021年1月28日周四 上午12:35写道：
>
>> It's typically a good idea to figure out your project name early on.
>> If you have to change the name before graduation in order to get a
>> trademark, then that wastes the momentum gathered under the old name.
>> That can always happen after the podling boots up, though.
>>
>>> On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 07:44, Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is just a reminder, not an instruction.
>>> The naming search and approval will officially happen when you are
>> powerful
>>> enough to graduate.
>>> Personally, I would like to see this as a potential risk, not just
>>> regarding Solace.
>>>
>>> Of course, this is your option. you should know, if you can't get
>> approval
>>> in the future, you will have a much bigger branding hurt.
>>> (You don't need to convince me)
>>>
>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>
>>>
>>> ShannonDing <di...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午9:23写道：
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would like to make a comments about this serious problem too,
>>>> In order not to cause unnecessary trouble in the future, we also
>> request
>>>> the infra member from apache to help check whether this name is
>>>> appropriate[1].
>>>> For us, we have used the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to
>>>> keep it so that users can get better product positioning from this
>> name.
>>>> According to this document[2], we also searched in the US Patent
>> Office[3]
>>>> and found no non-compliance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
>>>> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
>>>> [3] https://www.uspto.gov/trademark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01/27/2021 21:11，Eason Chen<ch...@apache.org> wrote：
>>>> @Sheng Wu
>>>> thank you for your kindly reminder. I would like to clarify this
>> concerns.
>>>>
>>>> As @Duane Pauls <du...@gmail.com> clarified this before:
>>>> “*I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we
>> do not
>>>> have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it
>> is
>>>> something our products are closely aligned with。 Solace does not
>> oppose the
>>>> term being used in other applicable products or projects.*”
>>>> Solace do not have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event
>> Mesh”.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I want to send a reminder for your project name chosen.
>>>> Event Mesh is widely used as a concept and term, you could find it
>> through
>>>> Google search,
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=event+mesh&oq=event+mesh
>>>>
>>>> Sheng Wu 吴晟
>>>> Twitter, wusheng1108
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <fp...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午5:12写道：
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it looks very promising.
>>>>
>>>> I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate
>> the
>>>> project into Karaf with JB ;)
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>> François
>>>> fpapon@apache.org
>>>>
>>>> Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
>>>> importance to this project according to the feedback given by
>>>> communities.
>>>> Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
>>>> changes in the project and community.
>>>>
>>>> @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
>>>> to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Von Gosling
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
>>>>
>>>> Hi Eason,
>>>>
>>>> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
>>>>
>>>> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
>>>>
>>>> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning
>>>> that
>>>> we
>>>> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
>>>> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>> Good time of the time to all!
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
>>>> comments
>>>> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its
>>>> acceptance
>>>> into Incubator.
>>>>
>>>> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
>>>> behind
>>>> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
>>>> China)
>>>> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
>>>> graduation.
>>>> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
>>>> started
>>>> in
>>>> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
>>>> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
>>>> of
>>>> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
>>>> this
>>>> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
>>>>
>>>> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
>>>> see
>>>> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
>>>> ecosystem
>>>> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you
>>>> are
>>>> interested.
>>>>
>>>> With best regards,
>>>>
>>>> The project's proposal is available at [1].
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
>>>>
>>>> Eason Chen
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by vongosling <fe...@gmail.com>.
Agree to raise this issue, even before podling starts. Initial teams need
to follow up on this potential problem[1]. Let's see how things go :-)
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com> 于2021年1月28日周四 上午12:35写道：
> It's typically a good idea to figure out your project name early on.
> If you have to change the name before graduation in order to get a
> trademark, then that wastes the momentum gathered under the old name.
> That can always happen after the podling boots up, though.
>
> On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 07:44, Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is just a reminder, not an instruction.
> > The naming search and approval will officially happen when you are
> powerful
> > enough to graduate.
> > Personally, I would like to see this as a potential risk, not just
> > regarding Solace.
> >
> > Of course, this is your option. you should know, if you can't get
> approval
> > in the future, you will have a much bigger branding hurt.
> > (You don't need to convince me)
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > ShannonDing <di...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午9:23写道：
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would like to make a comments about this serious problem too,
> > > In order not to cause unnecessary trouble in the future, we also
> request
> > > the infra member from apache to help check whether this name is
> > > appropriate[1].
> > > For us, we have used the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to
> > > keep it so that users can get better product positioning from this
> name.
> > > According to this document[2], we also searched in the US Patent
> Office[3]
> > > and found no non-compliance.
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
> > > [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
> > > [3] https://www.uspto.gov/trademark
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 01/27/2021 21:11，Eason Chen<ch...@apache.org> wrote：
> > > @Sheng Wu
> > > thank you for your kindly reminder. I would like to clarify this
> concerns.
> > >
> > > As @Duane Pauls <du...@gmail.com> clarified this before:
> > > “*I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we
> do not
> > > have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it
> is
> > > something our products are closely aligned with。 Solace does not
> oppose the
> > > term being used in other applicable products or projects.*”
> > > Solace do not have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event
> Mesh”.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > I want to send a reminder for your project name chosen.
> > > Event Mesh is widely used as a concept and term, you could find it
> through
> > > Google search,
> https://www.google.com/search?q=event+mesh&oq=event+mesh
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > > <fp...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午5:12写道：
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Yes, it looks very promising.
> > >
> > > I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate
> the
> > > project into Karaf with JB ;)
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > François
> > > fpapon@apache.org
> > >
> > > Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
> > > importance to this project according to the feedback given by
> > > communities.
> > > Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
> > > changes in the project and community.
> > >
> > > @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
> > > to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Von Gosling
> > >
> > > Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
> > >
> > > Hi Eason,
> > >
> > > That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
> > >
> > > I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
> > >
> > > I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning
> > > that
> > > we
> > > "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
> > >
> > > Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
> > > interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
> > > écrit :
> > > Good time of the time to all!
> > >
> > > I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
> > > comments
> > > and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its
> > > acceptance
> > > into Incubator.
> > >
> > > People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
> > > behind
> > > the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
> > > China)
> > > as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
> > > graduation.
> > > I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
> > > started
> > > in
> > > WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
> > > however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
> > > of
> > > doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
> > > this
> > > group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
> > >
> > > The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
> > > see
> > > it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
> > > ecosystem
> > > and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
> > >
> > > By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you
> > > are
> > > interested.
> > >
> > > With best regards,
> > >
> > > The project's proposal is available at [1].
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
> > >
> > > Eason Chen
> > >
> > > [1]
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
It's typically a good idea to figure out your project name early on.
If you have to change the name before graduation in order to get a
trademark, then that wastes the momentum gathered under the old name.
That can always happen after the podling boots up, though.
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 07:44, Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is just a reminder, not an instruction.
> The naming search and approval will officially happen when you are powerful
> enough to graduate.
> Personally, I would like to see this as a potential risk, not just
> regarding Solace.
>
> Of course, this is your option. you should know, if you can't get approval
> in the future, you will have a much bigger branding hurt.
> (You don't need to convince me)
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> ShannonDing <di...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午9:23写道：
>
> >
> >
> > I would like to make a comments about this serious problem too,
> > In order not to cause unnecessary trouble in the future, we also request
> > the infra member from apache to help check whether this name is
> > appropriate[1].
> > For us, we have used the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to
> > keep it so that users can get better product positioning from this name.
> > According to this document[2], we also searched in the US Patent Office[3]
> > and found no non-compliance.
> >
> >
> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
> > [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
> > [3] https://www.uspto.gov/trademark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 01/27/2021 21:11，Eason Chen<ch...@apache.org> wrote：
> > @Sheng Wu
> > thank you for your kindly reminder. I would like to clarify this concerns.
> >
> > As @Duane Pauls <du...@gmail.com> clarified this before:
> > “*I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we do not
> > have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it is
> > something our products are closely aligned with。 Solace does not oppose the
> > term being used in other applicable products or projects.*”
> > Solace do not have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I want to send a reminder for your project name chosen.
> > Event Mesh is widely used as a concept and term, you could find it through
> > Google search, https://www.google.com/search?q=event+mesh&oq=event+mesh
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > <fp...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午5:12写道：
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes, it looks very promising.
> >
> > I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate the
> > project into Karaf with JB ;)
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > François
> > fpapon@apache.org
> >
> > Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
> > importance to this project according to the feedback given by
> > communities.
> > Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
> > changes in the project and community.
> >
> > @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
> > to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Von Gosling
> >
> > Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
> >
> > Hi Eason,
> >
> > That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
> >
> > I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
> >
> > I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning
> > that
> > we
> > "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
> >
> > Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
> > interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
> > écrit :
> > Good time of the time to all!
> >
> > I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
> > comments
> > and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its
> > acceptance
> > into Incubator.
> >
> > People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
> > behind
> > the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
> > China)
> > as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
> > graduation.
> > I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
> > started
> > in
> > WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
> > however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
> > of
> > doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
> > this
> > group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
> >
> > The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
> > see
> > it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
> > ecosystem
> > and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
> >
> > By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you
> > are
> > interested.
> >
> > With best regards,
> >
> > The project's proposal is available at [1].
> >
> > Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
> >
> > Eason Chen
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
This is just a reminder, not an instruction.
The naming search and approval will officially happen when you are powerful
enough to graduate.
Personally, I would like to see this as a potential risk, not just
regarding Solace.
Of course, this is your option. you should know, if you can't get approval
in the future, you will have a much bigger branding hurt.
(You don't need to convince me)
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
ShannonDing <di...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午9:23写道：
>
>
> I would like to make a comments about this serious problem too,
> In order not to cause unnecessary trouble in the future, we also request
> the infra member from apache to help check whether this name is
> appropriate[1].
> For us, we have used the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to
> keep it so that users can get better product positioning from this name.
> According to this document[2], we also searched in the US Patent Office[3]
> and found no non-compliance.
>
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
> [3] https://www.uspto.gov/trademark
>
>
>
>
> On 01/27/2021 21:11，Eason Chen<ch...@apache.org> wrote：
> @Sheng Wu
> thank you for your kindly reminder. I would like to clarify this concerns.
>
> As @Duane Pauls <du...@gmail.com> clarified this before:
> “*I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we do not
> have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it is
> something our products are closely aligned with。 Solace does not oppose the
> term being used in other applicable products or projects.*”
> Solace do not have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”.
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I want to send a reminder for your project name chosen.
> Event Mesh is widely used as a concept and term, you could find it through
> Google search, https://www.google.com/search?q=event+mesh&oq=event+mesh
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> <fp...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午5:12写道：
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes, it looks very promising.
>
> I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate the
> project into Karaf with JB ;)
>
> regards,
>
> François
> fpapon@apache.org
>
> Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
> importance to this project according to the feedback given by
> communities.
> Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
> changes in the project and community.
>
> @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
> to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
>
> Best Regards,
> Von Gosling
>
> Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
>
> Hi Eason,
>
> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
>
> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
>
> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning
> that
> we
> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
>
> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
> écrit :
> Good time of the time to all!
>
> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
> comments
> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its
> acceptance
> into Incubator.
>
> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
> behind
> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
> China)
> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
> graduation.
> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
> started
> in
> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
> of
> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
> this
> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
>
> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
> see
> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
> ecosystem
> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
>
> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you
> are
> interested.
>
> With best regards,
>
> The project's proposal is available at [1].
>
> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
>
> Eason Chen
>
> [1]
>
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by ShannonDing <di...@apache.org>.
I would like to make a comments about this serious problem too,
In order not to cause unnecessary trouble in the future, we also request the infra member from apache to help check whether this name is appropriate[1].
For us, we have used the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to keep it so that users can get better product positioning from this name.
According to this document[2], we also searched in the US Patent Office[3] and found no non-compliance.
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
[2] https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
[3] https://www.uspto.gov/trademark
On 01/27/2021 21:11，Eason Chen<ch...@apache.org> wrote：
@Sheng Wu
thank you for your kindly reminder. I would like to clarify this concerns.
As @Duane Pauls <du...@gmail.com> clarified this before:
“*I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we do not
have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it is
something our products are closely aligned with。 Solace does not oppose the
term being used in other applicable products or projects.*”
Solace do not have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I want to send a reminder for your project name chosen.
Event Mesh is widely used as a concept and term, you could find it through
Google search, https://www.google.com/search?q=event+mesh&oq=event+mesh
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
<fp...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午5:12写道：
Hi,
Yes, it looks very promising.
I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate the
project into Karaf with JB ;)
regards,
François
fpapon@apache.org
Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
Hi,
This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
importance to this project according to the feedback given by
communities.
Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
changes in the project and community.
@Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
Best Regards,
Von Gosling
Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
Hi Eason,
That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning
that
we
"could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
Regards
JB
Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
écrit :
Good time of the time to all!
I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
comments
and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its
acceptance
into Incubator.
People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
behind
the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
China)
as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
graduation.
I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
started
in
WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
of
doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
this
group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
see
it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
ecosystem
and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you
are
interested.
With best regards,
The project's proposal is available at [1].
Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
Eason Chen
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org>.
@Sheng Wu
thank you for your kindly reminder. I would like to clarify this concerns.
As @Duane Pauls <du...@gmail.com> clarified this before:
“*I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we do not
have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it is
something our products are closely aligned with。 Solace does not oppose the
term being used in other applicable products or projects.*”
>> Solace do not have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:17 PM Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I want to send a reminder for your project name chosen.
> Event Mesh is widely used as a concept and term, you could find it through
> Google search, https://www.google.com/search?q=event+mesh&oq=event+mesh
>
> Sheng Wu 吴晟
> Twitter, wusheng1108
>
>
> <fp...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午5:12写道：
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Yes, it looks very promising.
> >
> > I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate the
> > project into Karaf with JB ;)
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > François
> > fpapon@apache.org
> >
> > Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
> > > importance to this project according to the feedback given by
> > communities.
> > > Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
> > > changes in the project and community.
> > >
> > > @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
> > > to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Von Gosling
> > >
> > > Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
> > >
> > >> Hi Eason,
> > >>
> > >> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
> > >>
> > >> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
> > >>
> > >> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning
> that
> > we
> > >> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
> > >> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >> JB
> > >>
> > >>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
> > >> écrit :
> > >>> Good time of the time to all!
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
> > >> comments
> > >>> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its
> acceptance
> > >>> into Incubator.
> > >>>
> > >>> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
> > behind
> > >>> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
> > China)
> > >>> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
> > >> graduation.
> > >>> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
> > started
> > >> in
> > >>> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
> > >>> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
> > of
> > >>> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
> > this
> > >>> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
> > >>>
> > >>> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
> > see
> > >>> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
> > ecosystem
> > >>> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
> > >>>
> > >>> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you
> are
> > >>> interested.
> > >>>
> > >>> With best regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> The project's proposal is available at [1].
> > >>>
> > >>> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
> > >>>
> > >>> Eason Chen
> > >>>
> > >>> [1]
> > >>
> > >>
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Sheng Wu <wu...@gmail.com>.
Hi
I want to send a reminder for your project name chosen.
Event Mesh is widely used as a concept and term, you could find it through
Google search, https://www.google.com/search?q=event+mesh&oq=event+mesh
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
<fp...@apache.org> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午5:12写道：
> Hi,
>
> Yes, it looks very promising.
>
> I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate the
> project into Karaf with JB ;)
>
> regards,
>
> François
> fpapon@apache.org
>
> Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
> > importance to this project according to the feedback given by
> communities.
> > Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
> > changes in the project and community.
> >
> > @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
> > to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Von Gosling
> >
> > Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
> >
> >> Hi Eason,
> >>
> >> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
> >>
> >> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
> >>
> >> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning that
> we
> >> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
> >>
> >> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
> >> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
> >> écrit :
> >>> Good time of the time to all!
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
> >> comments
> >>> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its acceptance
> >>> into Incubator.
> >>>
> >>> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
> behind
> >>> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
> China)
> >>> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
> >> graduation.
> >>> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
> started
> >> in
> >>> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
> >>> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
> of
> >>> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
> this
> >>> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
> >>>
> >>> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
> see
> >>> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
> ecosystem
> >>> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
> >>>
> >>> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you are
> >>> interested.
> >>>
> >>> With best regards,
> >>>
> >>> The project's proposal is available at [1].
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
> >>>
> >>> Eason Chen
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org>.
Hi,
I am honored that JB and François are willing to help the eventmesh
project. I will soon initiate a discussion on evaluating Karaf 5 in the
community.
regards,
Eason Chen
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:54 PM <fp...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 for me to be mentor on the project :)
>
> regards,
>
> François
> fpapon@apache.org
>
> Le 27/01/2021 à 13:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofre a écrit :
> > If you are open to evaluate/PoC EventMesh with Karaf (especially, Karaf
> 5 would be a prefect candidate), you can count on me !
> >
> > I would be more than happy to be mentor on EventMesh if you think it
> would be helpful.
> >
> > Thanks !
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> >> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 13:47, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
> écrit :
> >>
> >> Thanks to the attention of @JB and @François,
> >> I have to admit that Karaf's lightweight operating environment, hot
> >> deployment, dynamic configuration, and safe and rich management
> functions
> >> are indeed very helpful to help developers and users deploy applications
> >> more flexibly. We will further investigate the feasibility of Karaf
> >> becoming EventMesh's runtime container and look forward to the
> integration
> >> of the two products. By the way, I would like to know if @JB and
> @François
> >> are interested in becoming EventMesh mentors to help the project develop
> >> better?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:12 PM <fp...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Yes, it looks very promising.
> >>>
> >>> I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate
> the
> >>> project into Karaf with JB ;)
> >>>
> >>> regards,
> >>>
> >>> François
> >>> fpapon@apache.org
> >>>
> >>> Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
> >>>> importance to this project according to the feedback given by
> >>> communities.
> >>>> Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
> >>>> changes in the project and community.
> >>>>
> >>>> @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
> >>>> to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
> >>>>
> >>>> Best Regards,
> >>>> Von Gosling
> >>>>
> >>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Eason,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning
> that
> >>> we
> >>>>> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know,
> it’s
> >>>>> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> JB
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
> >>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>> Good time of the time to all!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
> >>>>> comments
> >>>>>> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its
> acceptance
> >>>>>> into Incubator.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
> >>> behind
> >>>>>> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
> >>> China)
> >>>>>> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
> >>>>> graduation.
> >>>>>> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
> >>> started
> >>>>> in
> >>>>>> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
> >>>>>> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache
> ways
> >>> of
> >>>>>> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
> >>> this
> >>>>>> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you
> will
> >>> see
> >>>>>> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
> >>> ecosystem
> >>>>>> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you
> are
> >>>>>> interested.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> With best regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The project's proposal is available at [1].
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Eason Chen
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by fp...@apache.org.
+1 for me to be mentor on the project :)
regards,
François
fpapon@apache.org
Le 27/01/2021 à 13:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofre a écrit :
> If you are open to evaluate/PoC EventMesh with Karaf (especially, Karaf 5 would be a prefect candidate), you can count on me !
>
> I would be more than happy to be mentor on EventMesh if you think it would be helpful.
>
> Thanks !
> Regards
> JB
>
>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 13:47, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a écrit :
>>
>> Thanks to the attention of @JB and @François,
>> I have to admit that Karaf's lightweight operating environment, hot
>> deployment, dynamic configuration, and safe and rich management functions
>> are indeed very helpful to help developers and users deploy applications
>> more flexibly. We will further investigate the feasibility of Karaf
>> becoming EventMesh's runtime container and look forward to the integration
>> of the two products. By the way, I would like to know if @JB and @François
>> are interested in becoming EventMesh mentors to help the project develop
>> better?
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:12 PM <fp...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes, it looks very promising.
>>>
>>> I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate the
>>> project into Karaf with JB ;)
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> François
>>> fpapon@apache.org
>>>
>>> Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
>>>> importance to this project according to the feedback given by
>>> communities.
>>>> Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
>>>> changes in the project and community.
>>>>
>>>> @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
>>>> to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Von Gosling
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eason,
>>>>>
>>>>> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning that
>>> we
>>>>> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
>>>>> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>> Good time of the time to all!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
>>>>> comments
>>>>>> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its acceptance
>>>>>> into Incubator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
>>> behind
>>>>>> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
>>> China)
>>>>>> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
>>>>> graduation.
>>>>>> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
>>> started
>>>>> in
>>>>>> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
>>>>>> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
>>> of
>>>>>> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
>>> this
>>>>>> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
>>> see
>>>>>> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
>>> ecosystem
>>>>>> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you are
>>>>>> interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The project's proposal is available at [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eason Chen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
If you are open to evaluate/PoC EventMesh with Karaf (especially, Karaf 5 would be a prefect candidate), you can count on me !
I would be more than happy to be mentor on EventMesh if you think it would be helpful.
Thanks !
Regards
JB
> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 13:47, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a écrit :
>
> Thanks to the attention of @JB and @François,
> I have to admit that Karaf's lightweight operating environment, hot
> deployment, dynamic configuration, and safe and rich management functions
> are indeed very helpful to help developers and users deploy applications
> more flexibly. We will further investigate the feasibility of Karaf
> becoming EventMesh's runtime container and look forward to the integration
> of the two products. By the way, I would like to know if @JB and @François
> are interested in becoming EventMesh mentors to help the project develop
> better?
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:12 PM <fp...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, it looks very promising.
>>
>> I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate the
>> project into Karaf with JB ;)
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> François
>> fpapon@apache.org
>>
>> Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
>>> importance to this project according to the feedback given by
>> communities.
>>> Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
>>> changes in the project and community.
>>>
>>> @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
>>> to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Von Gosling
>>>
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
>>>
>>>> Hi Eason,
>>>>
>>>> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
>>>>
>>>> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
>>>>
>>>> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning that
>> we
>>>> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
>>>> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>> Good time of the time to all!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
>>>> comments
>>>>> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its acceptance
>>>>> into Incubator.
>>>>>
>>>>> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
>> behind
>>>>> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
>> China)
>>>>> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
>>>> graduation.
>>>>> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
>> started
>>>> in
>>>>> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
>>>>> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
>> of
>>>>> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
>> this
>>>>> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
>>>>>
>>>>> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
>> see
>>>>> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
>> ecosystem
>>>>> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you are
>>>>> interested.
>>>>>
>>>>> With best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> The project's proposal is available at [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
>>>>>
>>>>> Eason Chen
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org>.
Thanks to the attention of @JB and @François,
I have to admit that Karaf's lightweight operating environment, hot
deployment, dynamic configuration, and safe and rich management functions
are indeed very helpful to help developers and users deploy applications
more flexibly. We will further investigate the feasibility of Karaf
becoming EventMesh's runtime container and look forward to the integration
of the two products. By the way, I would like to know if @JB and @François
are interested in becoming EventMesh mentors to help the project develop
better?
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:12 PM <fp...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, it looks very promising.
>
> I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate the
> project into Karaf with JB ;)
>
> regards,
>
> François
> fpapon@apache.org
>
> Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
> > importance to this project according to the feedback given by
> communities.
> > Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
> > changes in the project and community.
> >
> > @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
> > to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Von Gosling
> >
> > Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
> >
> >> Hi Eason,
> >>
> >> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
> >>
> >> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
> >>
> >> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning that
> we
> >> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
> >>
> >> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
> >> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
> >> écrit :
> >>> Good time of the time to all!
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
> >> comments
> >>> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its acceptance
> >>> into Incubator.
> >>>
> >>> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were
> behind
> >>> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in
> China)
> >>> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
> >> graduation.
> >>> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just
> started
> >> in
> >>> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
> >>> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways
> of
> >>> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping
> this
> >>> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
> >>>
> >>> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will
> see
> >>> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache
> ecosystem
> >>> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
> >>>
> >>> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you are
> >>> interested.
> >>>
> >>> With best regards,
> >>>
> >>> The project's proposal is available at [1].
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
> >>>
> >>> Eason Chen
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by fp...@apache.org.
Hi,
Yes, it looks very promising.
I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate the
project into Karaf with JB ;)
regards,
François
fpapon@apache.org
Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
> importance to this project according to the feedback given by communities.
> Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
> changes in the project and community.
>
> @Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
> to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
>
> Best Regards,
> Von Gosling
>
> Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
>
>> Hi Eason,
>>
>> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
>>
>> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
>>
>> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning that we
>> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
>>
>> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
>> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
>> écrit :
>>> Good time of the time to all!
>>>
>>> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
>> comments
>>> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its acceptance
>>> into Incubator.
>>>
>>> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were behind
>>> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in China)
>>> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
>> graduation.
>>> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just started
>> in
>>> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
>>> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways of
>>> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping this
>>> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
>>>
>>> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will see
>>> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache ecosystem
>>> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
>>>
>>> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you are
>>> interested.
>>>
>>> With best regards,
>>>
>>> The project's proposal is available at [1].
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
>>>
>>> Eason Chen
>>>
>>> [1]
>>
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by vongosling <fe...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
importance to this project according to the feedback given by communities.
Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
changes in the project and community.
@Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@apache.org> EventMesh really need
to improve its lighter plugin modules, karaf may be a good optional
Best Regards,
Von Gosling
Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> 于2021年1月27日周三 下午4:43写道：
> Hi Eason,
>
> That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
>
> I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
>
> I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning that we
> "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
>
> Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s
> interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> > Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a
> écrit :
> >
> > Good time of the time to all!
> >
> > I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion,
> comments
> > and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its acceptance
> > into Incubator.
> >
> > People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were behind
> > the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in China)
> > as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the
> graduation.
> >
> > I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just started
> in
> > WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
> > however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways of
> > doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping this
> > group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
> >
> > The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will see
> > it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache ecosystem
> > and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
> >
> > By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you are
> > interested.
> >
> > With best regards,
> >
> > The project's proposal is available at [1].
> >
> > Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
> >
> > Eason Chen
> >
> > [1]
>
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Eason,
That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning that we "could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
Anyway, if you need some help on the project, please let me know, it’s interesting and could be a good extend to Apache Karaf for instance.
Regards
JB
> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 09:32, Eason Chen <ch...@apache.org> a écrit :
>
> Good time of the time to all!
>
> I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion, comments
> and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its acceptance
> into Incubator.
>
> People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were behind
> the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge success(especially in China)
> as the community is literally thriving almost 5 years after the graduation.
>
> I have been involved a little bit with this project when it just started in
> WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to emphasize that the community
> however small it might look so far, has been aligned with Apache ways of
> doing things. Von Gosling is very instrumental in tirelessly helping this
> group to learn what it means to be a truly open source project.
>
> The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly available. As you will see
> it has a lot of dependency connections with the rest of Apache ecosystem
> and IMO will fit very well here and continue to grow the community.
>
> By the way, we still need 1 to 2 mentors, please let me know if you are
> interested.
>
> With best regards,
>
> The project's proposal is available at [1].
>
> Thank you very much for the feedback you're willing to provide!
>
> Eason Chen
>
> [1]
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