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Posted to dev@struts.apache.org by Jerome Ernsberger <Je...@AdNovum.CH> on 2003/01/06 08:42:18 UTC

Struts and JMX

Hallo,

do you think it make sense to use struts and JMX ????

Thx
Jerome


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Re: Struts and JMX

Posted by Micael <ca...@harbornet.com>.
I suppose it is for you, Jerome, since you know what you want to do.  I 
would be glad to assist too, but have no clue what you might or might not 
want to do.  What do you want to do?

Micael

At 05:24 PM 1/6/03 +0100, you wrote:
>On this point of view its really simple. You re right. But how will you 
>know if it
>makes sense,
>if you don t think about it? So I ask someonehow know struts and perheps 
>jmx. Isn
>t it that simple?
>
>thx
>Jerome
>
>
>Micael wrote:
>
> > If you have a reason to do this, do it, if it makes sense.  If you don't, I
> > would not make one up.  Isn't it that simple?
> >
> > At 09:13 AM 1/6/03 +0100, you wrote:
> > >dmkarr@earthlink.net wrote:
> > >
> > > > >>>>> "Jerome" == Jerome Ernsberger <Je...@AdNovum.CH> 
> writes:
> > > >
> > > >     Jerome> Hallo,
> > > >     Jerome> do you think it make sense to use struts and JMX ????
> > >
> > >I think that only the developer of struts can give me a good answer.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You'd be better off asking questions like this on the "struts-user" 
> list.
> > > >
> > > > The answer depends on what you mean by that.  I assume you ask 
> whether they
> > > > should be used together.  From one point of view, they don't have
> > > anything to
> > > > do with each other.  From another POV, they could easily be part of the
> > > same
> > > > "sub-application".
> > > >
> > > > It's entirely conceivable to consider building a Struts-based
> > > application which
> > > > interfaces with MBeans to control server characteristics.  I 
> believe that's
> > > > exactly what the Tomcat Manager application is doing.
> > > >
> > > > I guess it's also possible you might want to write MBeans which control
> > > aspects
> > > > of your Struts-based application, and present interfaces to those 
> MBeans,
> > > > either as another web application, or through other interfaces
> > > (command-line,
> > > > etcetera).
> > > >
> > >
> > >I want to write MBeans to control struts. I already have written 
> MBeans for a
> > >MVC-based application. So I really want to
> > >write MBeans for Struts. My company will use it in the future and I have
> > >to look,
> > >if it make sense. So perhaps a can read the
> > >struts-config.xml file and start an MBean with the MLet Service. 
> Weblogic and
> > >Tomcat do the same thing, I think.
> > >I don't want to change the original struts code!!!
> > >
> > >Thx
> > >Jerome
> > >
> > >Sorry for by bad english
> > >
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Re: Struts and JMX

Posted by Jerome Ernsberger <Je...@AdNovum.CH>.
On this point of view its really simple. You re right. But how will you know if it
makes sense,
if you don t think about it? So I ask someonehow know struts and perheps jmx. Isn
t it that simple?

thx
Jerome


Micael wrote:

> If you have a reason to do this, do it, if it makes sense.  If you don't, I
> would not make one up.  Isn't it that simple?
>
> At 09:13 AM 1/6/03 +0100, you wrote:
> >dmkarr@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > > >>>>> "Jerome" == Jerome Ernsberger <Je...@AdNovum.CH> writes:
> > >
> > >     Jerome> Hallo,
> > >     Jerome> do you think it make sense to use struts and JMX ????
> >
> >I think that only the developer of struts can give me a good answer.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > You'd be better off asking questions like this on the "struts-user" list.
> > >
> > > The answer depends on what you mean by that.  I assume you ask whether they
> > > should be used together.  From one point of view, they don't have
> > anything to
> > > do with each other.  From another POV, they could easily be part of the
> > same
> > > "sub-application".
> > >
> > > It's entirely conceivable to consider building a Struts-based
> > application which
> > > interfaces with MBeans to control server characteristics.  I believe that's
> > > exactly what the Tomcat Manager application is doing.
> > >
> > > I guess it's also possible you might want to write MBeans which control
> > aspects
> > > of your Struts-based application, and present interfaces to those MBeans,
> > > either as another web application, or through other interfaces
> > (command-line,
> > > etcetera).
> > >
> >
> >I want to write MBeans to control struts. I already have written MBeans for a
> >MVC-based application. So I really want to
> >write MBeans for Struts. My company will use it in the future and I have
> >to look,
> >if it make sense. So perhaps a can read the
> >struts-config.xml file and start an MBean with the MLet Service. Weblogic and
> >Tomcat do the same thing, I think.
> >I don't want to change the original struts code!!!
> >
> >Thx
> >Jerome
> >
> >Sorry for by bad english
> >
> >
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Re: Struts and JMX

Posted by Micael <ca...@harbornet.com>.
If you have a reason to do this, do it, if it makes sense.  If you don't, I 
would not make one up.  Isn't it that simple?

At 09:13 AM 1/6/03 +0100, you wrote:
>dmkarr@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> > >>>>> "Jerome" == Jerome Ernsberger <Je...@AdNovum.CH> writes:
> >
> >     Jerome> Hallo,
> >     Jerome> do you think it make sense to use struts and JMX ????
>
>I think that only the developer of struts can give me a good answer.
>
> >
> >
> > You'd be better off asking questions like this on the "struts-user" list.
> >
> > The answer depends on what you mean by that.  I assume you ask whether they
> > should be used together.  From one point of view, they don't have 
> anything to
> > do with each other.  From another POV, they could easily be part of the 
> same
> > "sub-application".
> >
> > It's entirely conceivable to consider building a Struts-based 
> application which
> > interfaces with MBeans to control server characteristics.  I believe that's
> > exactly what the Tomcat Manager application is doing.
> >
> > I guess it's also possible you might want to write MBeans which control 
> aspects
> > of your Struts-based application, and present interfaces to those MBeans,
> > either as another web application, or through other interfaces 
> (command-line,
> > etcetera).
> >
>
>I want to write MBeans to control struts. I already have written MBeans for a
>MVC-based application. So I really want to
>write MBeans for Struts. My company will use it in the future and I have 
>to look,
>if it make sense. So perhaps a can read the
>struts-config.xml file and start an MBean with the MLet Service. Weblogic and
>Tomcat do the same thing, I think.
>I don't want to change the original struts code!!!
>
>Thx
>Jerome
>
>Sorry for by bad english
>
>
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Re: Struts and JMX

Posted by Jerome Ernsberger <Je...@AdNovum.CH>.
dmkarr@earthlink.net wrote:

> >>>>> "Jerome" == Jerome Ernsberger <Je...@AdNovum.CH> writes:
>
>     Jerome> Hallo,
>     Jerome> do you think it make sense to use struts and JMX ????

I think that only the developer of struts can give me a good answer.

>
>
> You'd be better off asking questions like this on the "struts-user" list.
>
> The answer depends on what you mean by that.  I assume you ask whether they
> should be used together.  From one point of view, they don't have anything to
> do with each other.  From another POV, they could easily be part of the same
> "sub-application".
>
> It's entirely conceivable to consider building a Struts-based application which
> interfaces with MBeans to control server characteristics.  I believe that's
> exactly what the Tomcat Manager application is doing.
>
> I guess it's also possible you might want to write MBeans which control aspects
> of your Struts-based application, and present interfaces to those MBeans,
> either as another web application, or through other interfaces (command-line,
> etcetera).
>

I want to write MBeans to control struts. I already have written MBeans for a
MVC-based application. So I really want to
write MBeans for Struts. My company will use it in the future and I have to look,
if it make sense. So perhaps a can read the
struts-config.xml file and start an MBean with the MLet Service. Weblogic and
Tomcat do the same thing, I think.
I don't want to change the original struts code!!!

Thx
Jerome

Sorry for by bad english


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Re: Struts and JMX

Posted by "David M. Karr" <dm...@earthlink.net>.
>>>>> "Jerome" == Jerome Ernsberger <Je...@AdNovum.CH> writes:

    Jerome> Hallo,
    Jerome> do you think it make sense to use struts and JMX ????

You'd be better off asking questions like this on the "struts-user" list.

The answer depends on what you mean by that.  I assume you ask whether they
should be used together.  From one point of view, they don't have anything to
do with each other.  From another POV, they could easily be part of the same
"sub-application".

It's entirely conceivable to consider building a Struts-based application which
interfaces with MBeans to control server characteristics.  I believe that's
exactly what the Tomcat Manager application is doing.

I guess it's also possible you might want to write MBeans which control aspects
of your Struts-based application, and present interfaces to those MBeans,
either as another web application, or through other interfaces (command-line,
etcetera).

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