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Modelling dialogs
Hi
I guess this is first and foremost targeted at Rahul: Does anybody know of an opensource tool (preferably Eclipse based) that will let you model Dialogs flow (i.e Statediagrams) and from that create scxml files?
Hermod
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Re: Modelling dialogs
Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
On 12/4/06, Hermod Opstvedt <he...@opstvedt.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Thanks. Since I am using RAD at work, is that tooling publically available?
>
<snip/>
No not yet, as mentioned below, the intent (as I'm aware of it) is to
put it up on alphaworks and that will take a few months at the least,
IMO.
You're probably aware that RAD (the application developer) doesn't
have the modeling perspective, so you'll need something that does (the
Rational Modeler or the Rational Software Architect).
-Rahul
> Hermod
>
> -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> Fra: Rahul Akolkar [mailto:rahul.akolkar@gmail.com]
> Sendt: 4. desember 2006 20:33
> Til: user@shale.apache.org
> Emne: Re: Modelling dialogs
>
> On 12/4/06, hermod.opstvedt@dnbnor.no <he...@dnbnor.no> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I guess this is first and foremost targeted at Rahul: Does anybody know of
> an opensource tool (preferably Eclipse based) that will let you model
> Dialogs flow (i.e Statediagrams) and from that create scxml files?
> >
> <snip/>
>
> None that I'm aware of. Clearly, one of the links in the value
> proposition illustrated by the picture here [1] remains yet to be
> realized for most of us.
>
> The plugin snapped in that picture, which is the only one I've used,
> is a prototype developed specifically for Rational tooling. I
> understand the intent is to make it available on alphaworks, and that
> its likely to take months.
>
> A recent thread on the Commons list [2] drew out some references to
> XSLT based tooling that works off of XMI-complaint UML diagrams (to
> SVG etc., but could similarly transform to SCXML from state machine or
> activity diagrams, if someone were to actually dig in).
>
> On a slightly positive note, I have come across enough independent
> interest among users towards realizing such tooling. We can also
> probably expect tooling choices to emerge as the SCXML specification
> at the W3C matures beyond a Working Draft (they say now it could go
> last call 3Q07, its always a bit of a moving target).
>
> -Rahul
>
> [1] http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/scxml/
> [2]
> http://www.nabble.com/-scxml--Is-there-any-visualization-tool---tf2649035.ht
> ml
>
>
> > Hermod
> >
>
>
SV: Modelling dialogs
Posted by Hermod Opstvedt <he...@opstvedt.com>.
Hi
Thanks. Since I am using RAD at work, is that tooling publically available?
Hermod
-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: Rahul Akolkar [mailto:rahul.akolkar@gmail.com]
Sendt: 4. desember 2006 20:33
Til: user@shale.apache.org
Emne: Re: Modelling dialogs
On 12/4/06, hermod.opstvedt@dnbnor.no <he...@dnbnor.no> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I guess this is first and foremost targeted at Rahul: Does anybody know of
an opensource tool (preferably Eclipse based) that will let you model
Dialogs flow (i.e Statediagrams) and from that create scxml files?
>
<snip/>
None that I'm aware of. Clearly, one of the links in the value
proposition illustrated by the picture here [1] remains yet to be
realized for most of us.
The plugin snapped in that picture, which is the only one I've used,
is a prototype developed specifically for Rational tooling. I
understand the intent is to make it available on alphaworks, and that
its likely to take months.
A recent thread on the Commons list [2] drew out some references to
XSLT based tooling that works off of XMI-complaint UML diagrams (to
SVG etc., but could similarly transform to SCXML from state machine or
activity diagrams, if someone were to actually dig in).
On a slightly positive note, I have come across enough independent
interest among users towards realizing such tooling. We can also
probably expect tooling choices to emerge as the SCXML specification
at the W3C matures beyond a Working Draft (they say now it could go
last call 3Q07, its always a bit of a moving target).
-Rahul
[1] http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/scxml/
[2]
http://www.nabble.com/-scxml--Is-there-any-visualization-tool---tf2649035.ht
ml
> Hermod
>
Re: Modelling dialogs
Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
On 12/4/06, hermod.opstvedt@dnbnor.no <he...@dnbnor.no> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I guess this is first and foremost targeted at Rahul: Does anybody know of an opensource tool (preferably Eclipse based) that will let you model Dialogs flow (i.e Statediagrams) and from that create scxml files?
>
<snip/>
None that I'm aware of. Clearly, one of the links in the value
proposition illustrated by the picture here [1] remains yet to be
realized for most of us.
The plugin snapped in that picture, which is the only one I've used,
is a prototype developed specifically for Rational tooling. I
understand the intent is to make it available on alphaworks, and that
its likely to take months.
A recent thread on the Commons list [2] drew out some references to
XSLT based tooling that works off of XMI-complaint UML diagrams (to
SVG etc., but could similarly transform to SCXML from state machine or
activity diagrams, if someone were to actually dig in).
On a slightly positive note, I have come across enough independent
interest among users towards realizing such tooling. We can also
probably expect tooling choices to emerge as the SCXML specification
at the W3C matures beyond a Working Draft (they say now it could go
last call 3Q07, its always a bit of a moving target).
-Rahul
[1] http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/scxml/
[2] http://www.nabble.com/-scxml--Is-there-any-visualization-tool---tf2649035.html
> Hermod
>