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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Juan Jose Pablos <ch...@che-che.com> on 2003/09/03 13:48:02 UTC
Re: [patch] person tag
Jeff,
Jeff Turner wrote:
>
> In this case, I didn't respond because I'm not sure if the patch is a
> good idea, and wanted time to think/hear people's opinions. A page with
> a mailto: link to the author implies that the author should be contacted
> for comments/changes. That is not the case in ASF projects, where
> authorship does not equal ownership. If anything, I'd like to go the
> other way; make the appearance of *any* accreditation on the web page
> optional. What do people think?
>
Well, If for whatever reasons a document have:
<authors>
<person name="Juan José Pablos Castañeda" email="cheche@apache.org"/>
</authors>
The html output format should have that informatino as well.
For ASF sites this patch does not stop you to do this:
<authors>
<person name="Juan José Pablos Castañeda" email="forrest-dev@apache.org"/>
</authors>
But that should be changed in the source of the document, I think that
we should display whatever comes from the source.
Let me know what you think.
Cheers,
Cheche
Re: [patch] person tag
Posted by Juan Jose Pablos <ch...@che-che.com>.
David,
Template created, you need to change this on your skin to work:
92c92
< <xsl:value-of select="@name"/>
---
> <xsl:call-template name="email"/>
But in orde to get it working I need to change xsl:param to
xsl:variable, and I do not know why:
43c43
< <xsl:param name="obfuscate-mail-links" select="'false'"/>
---
> <xsl:variable name="obfuscate-mail-links" select="'true'"/>
can anyone have an idea of the reason of this behavior?
Cheers,
Cheche
David Crossley wrote:
> Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
>
>>Jeff Turner wrote:
>>
>>>Why? I would have thought page metadata is primarily of interest to the
>>>document author, who has access to the XML. There is no rule saying we
>>>need display all metadata. Browsers don't render HTML <meta> tags do
>>>they?
>>
>>If we do not want to print Metadata, we should not be printing
>>authors/person@name.
>
>
> Well certain metadata should be displayed in certain contexts.
> e.g. sometimes version number is appropriate
> e.g. sometimes an author name is appropriate
> e.g. sometimes even an email address is appropriate
>
> I think that it is the concern of stylesheet and sitemap authors
> as to what to show and how to show it. They could even transform
> some content to something else.
>
> Deciding what to show on the forrest-site skin is different issue.
>
>
>>we could move all header elements inside <meta/> for html format.
>
>
> Only some elements please. For example, i do not want my email
> address in there thanks.
>
> <snip/>
>
>>so what about if we create an email template so it can be called from
>>other skins if need be.
>
>
> <snip what="good idea about email xslt template" reason="agree"/>
>
> --David
>
>
>
Re: [patch] person tag
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@indexgeo.com.au>.
Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
> Jeff Turner wrote:
> > Why? I would have thought page metadata is primarily of interest to the
> > document author, who has access to the XML. There is no rule saying we
> > need display all metadata. Browsers don't render HTML <meta> tags do
> > they?
>
> If we do not want to print Metadata, we should not be printing
> authors/person@name.
Well certain metadata should be displayed in certain contexts.
e.g. sometimes version number is appropriate
e.g. sometimes an author name is appropriate
e.g. sometimes even an email address is appropriate
I think that it is the concern of stylesheet and sitemap authors
as to what to show and how to show it. They could even transform
some content to something else.
Deciding what to show on the forrest-site skin is different issue.
> we could move all header elements inside <meta/> for html format.
Only some elements please. For example, i do not want my email
address in there thanks.
<snip/>
>
> so what about if we create an email template so it can be called from
> other skins if need be.
<snip what="good idea about email xslt template" reason="agree"/>
--David
Re: [patch] person tag
Posted by Juan Jose Pablos <ch...@che-che.com>.
Jeff,
Jeff Turner wrote:
> Why? I would have thought page metadata is primarily of interest to the
> document author, who has access to the XML. There is no rule saying we
> need display all metadata. Browsers don't render HTML <meta> tags do
> they?
If we do not want to print Metadata, we should not be printing
authors/person@name.
we could move all header elements inside <meta/> for html format.
>
>
>>For ASF sites this patch does not stop you to do this:
>>
>><authors>
>><person name="Juan José Pablos Castañeda" email="forrest-dev@apache.org"/>
>></authors>
>
>
> That's abusing the tag to achieve an effect. Your email address is not
> forrest-dev@xml.apache.org ;P It would be better to introduce a new tag:
>
> <owner name="Forrest-dev" email="forrest-dev@xml.apache.org"/>
>
so what about if we create an email template so it can be called from
other skins if need be.
<xsl:template name="email">
<xsl:attribute name="href">
<xsl:choose>
<xsl:when test="$obfuscate-mail-links='true'">
<xsl:variable name="user"
select="substring-before(@email,'@')"/>
<xsl:variable name="host"
select="substring-after(@email,'@')"/>
<xsl:value-of
select="concat('mailto:',$user,'.at.',$host)"/>
</xsl:when>
<xsl:otherwise>
<xsl:value-of select="concat('mailto:',@email)"/>
</xsl:otherwise>
</xsl:choose>
</xsl:attribute>
</xsl:template>
Let me know what you think.
Cheers,
Cheche
Re: [patch] person tag
Posted by Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 01:48:02PM +0200, Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
> Jeff,
>
> Jeff Turner wrote:
> >
> >In this case, I didn't respond because I'm not sure if the patch is a
> >good idea, and wanted time to think/hear people's opinions. A page with
> >a mailto: link to the author implies that the author should be contacted
> >for comments/changes. That is not the case in ASF projects, where
> >authorship does not equal ownership. If anything, I'd like to go the
> >other way; make the appearance of *any* accreditation on the web page
> >optional. What do people think?
> >
>
> Well, If for whatever reasons a document have:
>
> <authors>
> <person name="Juan José Pablos Castañeda" email="cheche@apache.org"/>
> </authors>
>
> The html output format should have that informatino as well.
Why? I would have thought page metadata is primarily of interest to the
document author, who has access to the XML. There is no rule saying we
need display all metadata. Browsers don't render HTML <meta> tags do
they?
> For ASF sites this patch does not stop you to do this:
>
> <authors>
> <person name="Juan José Pablos Castañeda" email="forrest-dev@apache.org"/>
> </authors>
That's abusing the tag to achieve an effect. Your email address is not
forrest-dev@xml.apache.org ;P It would be better to introduce a new tag:
<owner name="Forrest-dev" email="forrest-dev@xml.apache.org"/>
--Jeff
> But that should be changed in the source of the document, I think that
> we should display whatever comes from the source.
>
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> Cheers,
> Cheche
>