Re: [Maven] Initial thoughts

[Jason van Zyl <jv...@zenplex.com>]

On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 18:26, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> Before I begin, I want to say that Maven is about 10 steps in the right
> direction.  Once it is set up correctly, you don't have to think about
> a lot of things.  However, I would like to know how it plans to address
> some challenges.
> 
> Sub Projects
>      I work with a few projects that have several smaller projects.
>      These include avalon-excalibur, docoport (components for Cocoon),
>      avalon-apps, etc.
> 
>      Not all of these projects can adopt the Maven style--although
>      there is a lot to like.  Is there any method planned to allow
>      a site or parent project to override the templates?  I don't
>      want to alter the installation.

Can you explain a little further, I'm not quite sure what you want me to
clarify.

>      Is it possible to have a master project.xml file and change the
>      specific information for each sub-project?  Only the subdirectory
>      information will change.
>      

I thought about this when I started I leaned toward complete project
encapsulation so that the project could vary independently. But I'm not
averse to a form of inheritance as we are dealing with an object model
for a project. This will be easier when I move the xml mapping mechanism
to betwixt, this coupled with schemas will probably make possible what
you're looking for very easily. I could actually do it now but I opted
for simple encapsulation to begin with. But to be clear this is not
possible currently.
 
>      Will there be a way to override the default directory structure
>      for a main project?  Avalon keeps the xdocs at src/xdocs which
>      is different from turbine specs.

Yup, log4j has the same structure and it's a simple override in a
project.properties:

http://24.157.133.102/log4j/
    
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Re: [Maven] Initial thoughts

[Pete Kazmier <pe...@kazmier.com>]

On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:09:03PM -0500, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> > >      Will there be a way to override the default directory structure
> > >      for a main project?  Avalon keeps the xdocs at src/xdocs which
> > >      is different from turbine specs.
> > 
> > Yup, log4j has the same structure and it's a simple override in a
> > project.properties:
> > 
> > http://24.157.133.102/log4j/
> 
> Ok.  Sounds good!

This is also documented in the 'Integration' document on the Maven site.
See the section called "Custom Properties" for more information.

Thanks!
Pete


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RE: [Maven] Initial thoughts

[Berin Loritsch <bl...@apache.org>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jvanzyl@zenplex.com] 
> 
> On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 18:26, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> > Before I begin, I want to say that Maven is about 10 steps in the 
> > right direction.  Once it is set up correctly, you don't 
> have to think 
> > about a lot of things.  However, I would like to know how 
> it plans to 
> > address some challenges.
> > 
> > Sub Projects
> >      I work with a few projects that have several smaller projects.
> >      These include avalon-excalibur, docoport (components 
> for Cocoon),
> >      avalon-apps, etc.
> > 
> >      Not all of these projects can adopt the Maven style--although
> >      there is a lot to like.  Is there any method planned to allow
> >      a site or parent project to override the templates?  I don't
> >      want to alter the installation.
> 
> Can you explain a little further, I'm not quite sure what you 
> want me to clarify.

The process of defining my own look for my projects.  I want to remain
as true to the feel of the Maven site, but I want to be able to use my
own styles for some of my projects.  I don't want to have to change the
installation of maven--even though I could.

That way I can set up a site look and feel for a suite of projects, but
leave the maven look and feel alone in the install.


> >      Is it possible to have a master project.xml file and change the
> >      specific information for each sub-project?  Only the 
> subdirectory
> >      information will change.
> >      
> 
> I thought about this when I started I leaned toward complete 
> project encapsulation so that the project could vary 
> independently. But I'm not averse to a form of inheritance as 
> we are dealing with an object model for a project. This will 
> be easier when I move the xml mapping mechanism to betwixt, 
> this coupled with schemas will probably make possible what 
> you're looking for very easily. I could actually do it now 
> but I opted for simple encapsulation to begin with. But to be 
> clear this is not possible currently.

I like that approach.  In fact, that is what I was thinking of--
a project inheritance.


> >      Will there be a way to override the default directory structure
> >      for a main project?  Avalon keeps the xdocs at src/xdocs which
> >      is different from turbine specs.
> 
> Yup, log4j has the same structure and it's a simple override in a
> project.properties:
> 
http://24.157.133.102/log4j/

Ok.  Sounds good!


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