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Becoming a collaborator?
Hi,
I have been following the Lucene project from a distance, since it was not
at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been working with
knowledge management and search for quite a while.
I would be particularly interested in working on some of the application
extensions described in:
http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
such as the crawlers.
Please let me know how to proceed.
Thanks,
Andre Valente
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Re: Becoming a collaborator for LARM?
Posted by Clemens Marschner <cm...@lanlab.de>.
> Hello Andre,
>
> I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
> thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex project
> and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if they
> need help with anything.
> Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are not
> commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty dormant, so
> maybe you can put somelife into it.
Hi,
we'd really need more contributors on the LARM project (the web crawler). If
you want to join, please
- download the latest CVS version of the lucene-sandbox with the LARM
repository (if you don't know how, please refer to
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/cvsindex.html)
- read docs/technical_overview.{rtf|pdf}, CHANGES.txt, and TODO.txt (the 2
latter being updated at every commit)
- tell me your ideas and what you want to work on
Regards,
Clemens Marschner
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Its irrelevant. I could add a script to check it out, build it and
upload it to the server no matter where it was.
I'll be happy to add it to the bi-hourly update process that POI uses,
currently running on one of my desktops
but soon to be running on set.superlinksoftware.com.
-Andy
Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>How about jakarta.apache.org/lucene-sandbox/docs instead?
>That way Lucene Sandmen should be able to update it, the other way it
>probably wouldn't work.
>
>I'll go ahead and see what we can do to get this set up.
>
>Otis
>
>
>--- Clemens Marschner <cm...@lanlab.de> wrote:
>
>
>>>Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation
>>>
>>>
>>directory is
>>
>>
>>>in order.
>>>
>>>
>>+1 :-)
>>
>>If it can be maintained by lucene-sandbox contributors: perfect.
>>
>>Clemens
>>
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by Otis Gospodnetic <ot...@yahoo.com>.
How about jakarta.apache.org/lucene-sandbox/docs instead?
That way Lucene Sandmen should be able to update it, the other way it
probably wouldn't work.
I'll go ahead and see what we can do to get this set up.
Otis
--- Clemens Marschner <cm...@lanlab.de> wrote:
> > Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation
> directory is
> > in order.
> +1 :-)
>
> If it can be maintained by lucene-sandbox contributors: perfect.
>
> Clemens
>
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by Clemens Marschner <cm...@lanlab.de>.
> Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation directory is
> in order.
+1 :-)
If it can be maintained by lucene-sandbox contributors: perfect.
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
dead. LARM looks good.
Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>Nope as in "No, it is not going anywhere" or "No, it is still alive"?
>Seems like the former, but I just want to be sure.
>
>Thanks,
>Otis
>
>--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Nope. It looked to me like the other stuff matched/duplicated and
>>superceeded it so there didn't seem to be
>>much point.
>>
>>Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Andy,
>>>
>>>Just for my own clarity - is the appex stuff in Lucene Sandbox going
>>>anywhere, or are you saying that this is it for that project?
>>>I don't want to put any words in your mouth, I just want to be clear
>>>myself.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Otis
>>>
>>>
>>>--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello Andre,
>>>>>
>>>>>I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
>>>>>thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>project
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>they
>>
>>
>>>>>need help with anything.
>>>>>Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>not
>>
>>
>>>>>commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty dormant,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>so
>>
>>
>>>>>maybe you can put somelife into it. At this point I even forgot
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>what
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>exactly it does, whether it works as it is now or needs more work,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>how
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>closely it followed the plan outlined at
>>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html, and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>>Andrew?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Well I asked if folks wanted to collaborate, but I guess they
>>>>
>>>>
>>didn't
>>
>>
>>>>or
>>>>something. They checked things in
>>>>elsewhere. Anyhow it looks like they've made great progress. I
>>>>
>>>>
>>look
>>
>>
>>>>forward to more information on it.
>>>>Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation
>>>>
>>>>
>>directory
>>
>>
>>>>is
>>>>in order.
>>>>
>>>>-Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Otis
>>>>>P.S.
>>>>>A bit more info at http://www.ksventures.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--- Andre Valente <av...@ksventures.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have been following the Lucene project from a distance, since
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>it
>>
>>
>>>>>>was not
>>>>>>at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been working
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>knowledge management and search for quite a while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would be particularly interested in working on some of the
>>>>>>application
>>>>>>extensions described in:
>>>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
>>>>>>such as the crawlers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please let me know how to proceed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Andre Valente
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by Otis Gospodnetic <ot...@yahoo.com>.
Nope as in "No, it is not going anywhere" or "No, it is still alive"?
Seems like the former, but I just want to be sure.
Thanks,
Otis
--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
> Nope. It looked to me like the other stuff matched/duplicated and
> superceeded it so there didn't seem to be
> much point.
>
> Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>
> >Andy,
> >
> >Just for my own clarity - is the appex stuff in Lucene Sandbox going
> >anywhere, or are you saying that this is it for that project?
> >I don't want to put any words in your mouth, I just want to be clear
> >myself.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Otis
> >
> >
> >--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hello Andre,
> >>>
> >>>I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
> >>>thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex
> >>>
> >>>
> >>project
> >>
> >>
> >>>and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if
> they
> >>>need help with anything.
> >>>Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are
> not
> >>>commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty dormant,
> so
> >>>maybe you can put somelife into it. At this point I even forgot
> >>>
> >>>
> >>what
> >>
> >>
> >>>exactly it does, whether it works as it is now or needs more work,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>how
> >>
> >>
> >>>closely it followed the plan outlined at
> >>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html, and so on.
> >>>
> >>>Andrew?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Well I asked if folks wanted to collaborate, but I guess they
> didn't
> >>or
> >>something. They checked things in
> >>elsewhere. Anyhow it looks like they've made great progress. I
> look
> >>
> >>forward to more information on it.
> >>Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation
> directory
> >>is
> >>in order.
> >>
> >>-Andy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Otis
> >>>P.S.
> >>>A bit more info at http://www.ksventures.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--- Andre Valente <av...@ksventures.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>>I have been following the Lucene project from a distance, since
> it
> >>>>was not
> >>>>at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
> >>>>
> >>>>I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been working
> >>>>with
> >>>>knowledge management and search for quite a while.
> >>>>
> >>>>I would be particularly interested in working on some of the
> >>>>application
> >>>>extensions described in:
> >>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
> >>>>such as the crawlers.
> >>>>
> >>>>Please let me know how to proceed.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks,
> >>>>Andre Valente
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Nope. It looked to me like the other stuff matched/duplicated and
superceeded it so there didn't seem to be
much point.
Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>Andy,
>
>Just for my own clarity - is the appex stuff in Lucene Sandbox going
>anywhere, or are you saying that this is it for that project?
>I don't want to put any words in your mouth, I just want to be clear
>myself.
>
>Thanks,
>Otis
>
>
>--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hello Andre,
>>>
>>>I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
>>>thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex
>>>
>>>
>>project
>>
>>
>>>and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if they
>>>need help with anything.
>>>Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are not
>>>commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty dormant, so
>>>maybe you can put somelife into it. At this point I even forgot
>>>
>>>
>>what
>>
>>
>>>exactly it does, whether it works as it is now or needs more work,
>>>
>>>
>>how
>>
>>
>>>closely it followed the plan outlined at
>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html, and so on.
>>>
>>>Andrew?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Well I asked if folks wanted to collaborate, but I guess they didn't
>>or
>>something. They checked things in
>>elsewhere. Anyhow it looks like they've made great progress. I look
>>
>>forward to more information on it.
>>Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation directory
>>is
>>in order.
>>
>>-Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>>Otis
>>>P.S.
>>>A bit more info at http://www.ksventures.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Andre Valente <av...@ksventures.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I have been following the Lucene project from a distance, since it
>>>>was not
>>>>at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
>>>>
>>>>I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been working
>>>>with
>>>>knowledge management and search for quite a while.
>>>>
>>>>I would be particularly interested in working on some of the
>>>>application
>>>>extensions described in:
>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
>>>>such as the crawlers.
>>>>
>>>>Please let me know how to proceed.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Andre Valente
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Appex/LARM con-fusion / was: Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by Clemens Marschner <cm...@lanlab.de>.
I'll have a look at it within the next days, and I'll also read the
luceneplan doc once more since I can't remember what was in there.
It's just a matter of free time... I didn't have much of that during the
last week. It'd be much easier if at least ONE could delve into that crawler
and become a real second contributor. There's a lot one can do.
I must admit that since I'm the only contributor I commit my changes usually
only once a week; that's why it seems that there's not much going on with
it. I have experimented a lot with a repository in the last week (and found
out that SQL REALLY is too slow) and am working on some issues with
redirected pages at the moment. I'll try to get the configuration thing done
VERY SOON, since this seems to be the next major thing that prevents people
from using it. The other one would be a web site for the crawler where I
could put documentation to. .html docs seem to be read by more people as
.pdfs in a CVS repository.
--Clemens
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Subject: Re: Becoming a collaborator?
> I just looked at project/appex in the Sandbox.
>
> Assuming Andy was really saying "No, appex project is not going
> anywhere.", I would suggest that Clemens & Co. look at
> jakarta-lucene-sandbox/projects/appex/src/java/search (*DataSource*,
> *Broker*, DocumentHandler.java, contenthandler/*, etc.), as that seems
> like the place where the actual code is, and there are some classes, at
> least judging by their names, that fit that proposal in luceneplan.html
> document.
>
> Otis
> P.S.
> Personally, I find all those directories confusing. Most of them are
> either empty, with an empty placeholder file, or they are for
> Centipede, a build tool.
> That's why I suggest that Clemens looks at those sources, borrow what
> he needs to borrow, and then we can slowly retire this project.
>
> Again, this assumes that Kelvin and Andy agree that Clemens' web
> crawler contribution has gotten further and satisfies their needs, and
> they see no need for a separate appex project.
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by ke...@relevanz.com.
I suspect the purpose/potential of the index framework in appex
hasn't been fully realized, primarily because of lack of
documentation.
Let me move it into a less confusing directory structure, document it
more rigorously, and let you guys decide the use(s) for it.
I haven't taken a look at LARM in detail, so I'm not immediately
clear how it'll fit in, but I'm pretty sure we can work something
out.
Kelvin
>That's why I suggest that Clemens looks at those sources, borrow
what
>he needs to borrow, and then we can slowly retire this project.
>
>Again, this assumes that Kelvin and Andy agree that Clemens' web
>crawler contribution has gotten further and satisfies their needs,
>and
>they see no need for a separate appex project.
>
>
>
>
>--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
>>Andy's Centipede tool? humm...I actually had little to do with
>>authoring that.
>>
>>The intent was to have a
>>
>>jakarta-lucene/sandbox/appex website generated/authored there (so
>>that
>>we could maintain project documentation).
>>Having centipede there was just because it was the easiest way I
>>knew
>>of
>>to have adequate XML documentation
>>accross potentially several subprojects, have seperate module
>>builds
>>without me having to write anything.
>>
>>The packaging scheme matches roughly what the packaging scheme was
>>without me messing with it too much. The
>>intent was to put the refactored classes in
>>org.apache.lucene.appex.blabla.
>>
>>I think the LARM thing looks like it has superceded and suprassed
>>this.
>>I see no need for duplication.
>>
>>>Is there anything I can do to encourage participation?
>>
>>Perhaps you could engage them in a discussion and collaborate
>>there.
>>
>>I'm swamped again, but I'll check back and do something about it if
>>it
>>doesn't reach the goals in the lucene plan doc.
>>
>>-Andy
>>
>>Kelvin Tan wrote:
>>
>>>I think this might be my cue. :)
>>>
>>>Right now, appex consists (afik) of the Andy's Centipede tool, and
>>the
>>>indexing framework I checked in. Right now, the package structure
>>>is
>>rather
>>>confusing and its not immediately clear where the sources are for
>>these two
>>>components. That's partially my fault, I think.
>>>
>>>Wrt to the indexing framework, the original intention was that
>>>after
>>it's
>>>checked in, interested parties could check it out, and hopefully
>>refactor
>>>it into something useful. That hasn't really happened much though.
>>>
>>>
>>>Is there anything I can do to encourage participation?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Kelvin
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:22:37 -0700 (PDT), Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Andy,
>>>>
>>>>Just for my own clarity - is the appex stuff in Lucene Sandbox
>>going
>>>>anywhere, or are you saying that this is it for that project?
>>>>I don't want to put any words in your mouth, I just want to be
>>clear
>>>>myself.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Otis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello Andre,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
>>>>>>thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>project
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if
>>>>>>they
>>>>>>need help with anything.
>>>>>>Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are
>>>>>>not
>>>>>>commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty
>>>>>dormant,
>>>>>>so
>>>>>>maybe you can put somelife into it. At this point I even
>>>>>forgot
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>what
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>exactly it does, whether it works as it is now or needs more
>>work,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>how
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>closely it followed the plan outlined at
>>>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html, and so
>>>>>on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Andrew?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Well I asked if folks wanted to collaborate, but I guess they
>>>>>didn't
>>>>>or
>>>>>something. They checked things in
>>>>>elsewhere. Anyhow it looks like they've made great progress. I
>>>>>look
>>>>>
>>>>>forward to more information on it.
>>>>>Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation
>>>>>directory
>>>>>is
>>>>>in order.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Otis
>>>>>>P.S.
>>>>>>A bit more info at http://www.ksventures.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- Andre Valente <av...@ksventures.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have been following the Lucene project from a distance,
>>>>>since
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>was not
>>>>>>>at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been
>>working
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>knowledge management and search for quite a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would be particularly interested in working on some of the
>>>>>>>application
>>>>>>>extensions described in:
>>>>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
>>>>>>>such as the crawlers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Please let me know how to proceed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>>Andre Valente
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by Otis Gospodnetic <ot...@yahoo.com>.
I just looked at project/appex in the Sandbox.
Assuming Andy was really saying "No, appex project is not going
anywhere.", I would suggest that Clemens & Co. look at
jakarta-lucene-sandbox/projects/appex/src/java/search (*DataSource*,
*Broker*, DocumentHandler.java, contenthandler/*, etc.), as that seems
like the place where the actual code is, and there are some classes, at
least judging by their names, that fit that proposal in luceneplan.html
document.
Otis
P.S.
Personally, I find all those directories confusing. Most of them are
either empty, with an empty placeholder file, or they are for
Centipede, a build tool.
That's why I suggest that Clemens looks at those sources, borrow what
he needs to borrow, and then we can slowly retire this project.
Again, this assumes that Kelvin and Andy agree that Clemens' web
crawler contribution has gotten further and satisfies their needs, and
they see no need for a separate appex project.
--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
> Andy's Centipede tool? humm...I actually had little to do with
> authoring that.
>
> The intent was to have a
>
> jakarta-lucene/sandbox/appex website generated/authored there (so
> that
> we could maintain project documentation).
> Having centipede there was just because it was the easiest way I knew
> of
> to have adequate XML documentation
> accross potentially several subprojects, have seperate module builds
> without me having to write anything.
>
> The packaging scheme matches roughly what the packaging scheme was
> without me messing with it too much. The
> intent was to put the refactored classes in
> org.apache.lucene.appex.blabla.
>
> I think the LARM thing looks like it has superceded and suprassed
> this.
> I see no need for duplication.
>
> > Is there anything I can do to encourage participation?
>
> Perhaps you could engage them in a discussion and collaborate there.
>
> I'm swamped again, but I'll check back and do something about it if
> it
> doesn't reach the goals in the lucene plan doc.
>
> -Andy
>
> Kelvin Tan wrote:
>
> >I think this might be my cue. :)
> >
> >Right now, appex consists (afik) of the Andy's Centipede tool, and
> the
> >indexing framework I checked in. Right now, the package structure is
> rather
> >confusing and its not immediately clear where the sources are for
> these two
> >components. That's partially my fault, I think.
> >
> >Wrt to the indexing framework, the original intention was that after
> it's
> >checked in, interested parties could check it out, and hopefully
> refactor
> >it into something useful. That hasn't really happened much though.
> >
> >Is there anything I can do to encourage participation?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Kelvin
> >
> >
> >On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:22:37 -0700 (PDT), Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Andy,
> >>
> >>Just for my own clarity - is the appex stuff in Lucene Sandbox
> going
> >>anywhere, or are you saying that this is it for that project?
> >>I don't want to put any words in your mouth, I just want to be
> clear
> >>myself.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Otis
> >>
> >>
> >>--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hello Andre,
> >>>>
> >>>>I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
> >>>>thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>project
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if
> >>>>they
> >>>>need help with anything.
> >>>>Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are
> >>>>not
> >>>>commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty dormant,
> >>>>so
> >>>>maybe you can put somelife into it. At this point I even forgot
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>what
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>exactly it does, whether it works as it is now or needs more
> work,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>how
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>closely it followed the plan outlined at
> >>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html, and so on.
> >>>>
> >>>>Andrew?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Well I asked if folks wanted to collaborate, but I guess they
> >>>didn't
> >>>or
> >>>something. They checked things in
> >>>elsewhere. Anyhow it looks like they've made great progress. I
> >>>look
> >>>
> >>>forward to more information on it.
> >>>Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation
> >>>directory
> >>>is
> >>>in order.
> >>>
> >>>-Andy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Otis
> >>>>P.S.
> >>>>A bit more info at http://www.ksventures.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--- Andre Valente <av...@ksventures.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I have been following the Lucene project from a distance, since
> >>>>>it
> >>>>>was not
> >>>>>at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been
> working
> >>>>>with
> >>>>>knowledge management and search for quite a while.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I would be particularly interested in working on some of the
> >>>>>application
> >>>>>extensions described in:
> >>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
> >>>>>such as the crawlers.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Please let me know how to proceed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks,
> >>>>>Andre Valente
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Andy's Centipede tool? humm...I actually had little to do with
authoring that.
The intent was to have a
jakarta-lucene/sandbox/appex website generated/authored there (so that
we could maintain project documentation).
Having centipede there was just because it was the easiest way I knew of
to have adequate XML documentation
accross potentially several subprojects, have seperate module builds
without me having to write anything.
The packaging scheme matches roughly what the packaging scheme was
without me messing with it too much. The
intent was to put the refactored classes in
org.apache.lucene.appex.blabla.
I think the LARM thing looks like it has superceded and suprassed this.
I see no need for duplication.
> Is there anything I can do to encourage participation?
Perhaps you could engage them in a discussion and collaborate there.
I'm swamped again, but I'll check back and do something about it if it
doesn't reach the goals in the lucene plan doc.
-Andy
Kelvin Tan wrote:
>I think this might be my cue. :)
>
>Right now, appex consists (afik) of the Andy's Centipede tool, and the
>indexing framework I checked in. Right now, the package structure is rather
>confusing and its not immediately clear where the sources are for these two
>components. That's partially my fault, I think.
>
>Wrt to the indexing framework, the original intention was that after it's
>checked in, interested parties could check it out, and hopefully refactor
>it into something useful. That hasn't really happened much though.
>
>Is there anything I can do to encourage participation?
>
>Regards,
>Kelvin
>
>
>On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:22:37 -0700 (PDT), Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>
>
>>Andy,
>>
>>Just for my own clarity - is the appex stuff in Lucene Sandbox going
>>anywhere, or are you saying that this is it for that project?
>>I don't want to put any words in your mouth, I just want to be clear
>>myself.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Otis
>>
>>
>>--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello Andre,
>>>>
>>>>I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
>>>>thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>project
>>>
>>>
>>>>and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if
>>>>they
>>>>need help with anything.
>>>>Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are
>>>>not
>>>>commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty dormant,
>>>>so
>>>>maybe you can put somelife into it. At this point I even forgot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>what
>>>
>>>
>>>>exactly it does, whether it works as it is now or needs more work,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>how
>>>
>>>
>>>>closely it followed the plan outlined at
>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html, and so on.
>>>>
>>>>Andrew?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Well I asked if folks wanted to collaborate, but I guess they
>>>didn't
>>>or
>>>something. They checked things in
>>>elsewhere. Anyhow it looks like they've made great progress. I
>>>look
>>>
>>>forward to more information on it.
>>>Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation
>>>directory
>>>is
>>>in order.
>>>
>>>-Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Otis
>>>>P.S.
>>>>A bit more info at http://www.ksventures.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- Andre Valente <av...@ksventures.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>I have been following the Lucene project from a distance, since
>>>>>it
>>>>>was not
>>>>>at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been working
>>>>>with
>>>>>knowledge management and search for quite a while.
>>>>>
>>>>>I would be particularly interested in working on some of the
>>>>>application
>>>>>extensions described in:
>>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
>>>>>such as the crawlers.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please let me know how to proceed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Andre Valente
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by Kelvin Tan <ke...@relevanz.com>.
I think this might be my cue. :)
Right now, appex consists (afik) of the Andy's Centipede tool, and the
indexing framework I checked in. Right now, the package structure is rather
confusing and its not immediately clear where the sources are for these two
components. That's partially my fault, I think.
Wrt to the indexing framework, the original intention was that after it's
checked in, interested parties could check it out, and hopefully refactor
it into something useful. That hasn't really happened much though.
Is there anything I can do to encourage participation?
Regards,
Kelvin
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 19:22:37 -0700 (PDT), Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>Andy,
>
>Just for my own clarity - is the appex stuff in Lucene Sandbox going
>anywhere, or are you saying that this is it for that project?
>I don't want to put any words in your mouth, I just want to be clear
>myself.
>
>Thanks,
>Otis
>
>
>--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
>>Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>>
>>>Hello Andre,
>>>
>>>I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
>>>thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex
>>project
>>>and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if
>>>they
>>>need help with anything.
>>>Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are
>>>not
>>>commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty dormant,
>>>so
>>>maybe you can put somelife into it. At this point I even forgot
>>what
>>>exactly it does, whether it works as it is now or needs more work,
>>how
>>>closely it followed the plan outlined at
>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html, and so on.
>>>
>>>Andrew?
>>>
>>>
>>Well I asked if folks wanted to collaborate, but I guess they
>>didn't
>>or
>>something. They checked things in
>>elsewhere. Anyhow it looks like they've made great progress. I
>>look
>>
>>forward to more information on it.
>>Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation
>>directory
>>is
>>in order.
>>
>>-Andy
>>
>>>Otis
>>>P.S.
>>>A bit more info at http://www.ksventures.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Andre Valente <av...@ksventures.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I have been following the Lucene project from a distance, since
>>>>it
>>>>was not
>>>>at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
>>>>
>>>>I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been working
>>>>with
>>>>knowledge management and search for quite a while.
>>>>
>>>>I would be particularly interested in working on some of the
>>>>application
>>>>extensions described in:
>>>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
>>>>such as the crawlers.
>>>>
>>>>Please let me know how to proceed.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Andre Valente
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by Otis Gospodnetic <ot...@yahoo.com>.
Andy,
Just for my own clarity - is the appex stuff in Lucene Sandbox going
anywhere, or are you saying that this is it for that project?
I don't want to put any words in your mouth, I just want to be clear
myself.
Thanks,
Otis
--- "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org> wrote:
> Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>
> >Hello Andre,
> >
> >I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
> >thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex
> project
> >and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if they
> >need help with anything.
> >Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are not
> >commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty dormant, so
> >maybe you can put somelife into it. At this point I even forgot
> what
> >exactly it does, whether it works as it is now or needs more work,
> how
> >closely it followed the plan outlined at
> >http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html, and so on.
> >
> >Andrew?
> >
> >
> Well I asked if folks wanted to collaborate, but I guess they didn't
> or
> something. They checked things in
> elsewhere. Anyhow it looks like they've made great progress. I look
>
> forward to more information on it.
> Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation directory
> is
> in order.
>
> -Andy
>
> >Otis
> >P.S.
> >A bit more info at http://www.ksventures.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >--- Andre Valente <av...@ksventures.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I have been following the Lucene project from a distance, since it
> >>was not
> >>at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
> >>
> >>I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been working
> >>with
> >>knowledge management and search for quite a while.
> >>
> >>I would be particularly interested in working on some of the
> >>application
> >>extensions described in:
> >>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
> >>such as the crawlers.
> >>
> >>Please let me know how to proceed.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Andre Valente
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
>Hello Andre,
>
>I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
>thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex project
>and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if they
>need help with anything.
>Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are not
>commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty dormant, so
>maybe you can put somelife into it. At this point I even forgot what
>exactly it does, whether it works as it is now or needs more work, how
>closely it followed the plan outlined at
>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html, and so on.
>
>Andrew?
>
>
Well I asked if folks wanted to collaborate, but I guess they didn't or
something. They checked things in
elsewhere. Anyhow it looks like they've made great progress. I look
forward to more information on it.
Perhaps a jakarta.apache.org/lucene/sandbox/ documentation directory is
in order.
-Andy
>Otis
>P.S.
>A bit more info at http://www.ksventures.com/
>
>
>
>--- Andre Valente <av...@ksventures.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I have been following the Lucene project from a distance, since it
>>was not
>>at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
>>
>>I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been working
>>with
>>knowledge management and search for quite a while.
>>
>>I would be particularly interested in working on some of the
>>application
>>extensions described in:
>>http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
>>such as the crawlers.
>>
>>Please let me know how to proceed.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Andre Valente
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Becoming a collaborator?
Posted by Otis Gospodnetic <ot...@yahoo.com>.
Hello Andre,
I would suggest that you contact some of the people who started
thinking about that stuff, such as people who started the appex project
and webcrawler-LARM contribution in Lucene Sandbox, and see if they
need help with anything.
Webrcrawler-LARM is actively developed, even though changes are not
commited frequently, but the appex project seems pretty dormant, so
maybe you can put somelife into it. At this point I even forgot what
exactly it does, whether it works as it is now or needs more work, how
closely it followed the plan outlined at
http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html, and so on.
Andrew?
Otis
P.S.
A bit more info at http://www.ksventures.com/
--- Andre Valente <av...@ksventures.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been following the Lucene project from a distance, since it
> was not
> at Jakarta. I would be interested in becoming a collaborator.
>
> I am only a medium-level Java programmer, but I have been working
> with
> knowledge management and search for quite a while.
>
> I would be particularly interested in working on some of the
> application
> extensions described in:
> http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/luceneplan.html
> such as the crawlers.
>
> Please let me know how to proceed.
>
> Thanks,
> Andre Valente
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