Blog Points out Cordova's Weak Spots

[Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com>]

http://engblog.polyvore.com/2012/12/web-developer-admits-objective-c-html.html?m=1

I think I agree with the author. I do still believe the mobile web will be
better in the future though :)

Re: Blog Points out Cordova's Weak Spots

[Joe Bowser <bo...@gmail.com>]

Honestly, I noticed that he said that Objective-C > HTML5.  The reason
I started the Android version of PhoneGap was because I wanted apps on
my phone, and I wasn't going to give Apple any of my money. Android
users are the big losers if iOS fails, because people are just going
to write their iPhone app, and completely ignore Android because of
the myths of "Android users don't have money" and "Android users are
all nerds anyway", and other things like that.


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> wrote:
> http://engblog.polyvore.com/2012/12/web-developer-admits-objective-c-html.html?m=1
>
> I think I agree with the author. I do still believe the mobile web will be
> better in the future though :)

Re: Blog Points out Cordova's Weak Spots

[Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>]

I am one of the people who predict that what happened on the desktop
computer will happen on mobile as well. It's just a matter of time. The
first thing you launch when your computer boots up is your web browser.
That behaviour will also apply to mobile devices in my opinion.


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Michael Brooks <mi...@michaelbrooks.ca>wrote:

> It's a good article that's written in an honest and fair tone.
>
> Personally, I've felt a lot of pain-points that he's mentioned. While
> fixing UX / UI performance issues, I've often lost track of what I set out
> to create - an app.
>
> However, one important point that I continually keep in mind is that the
> web has came an incredibly long way in a short-time. In the past two years
> alone, we've seen web applications become incredibly rich. Yes, they aren't
> on par with native applications but the gap is narrowing quickly. I see the
> "native vs web" debate playing out similar to the "compiled vs interpreted"
> language debate that happened six or seven years ago.
>
> Michael
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Not sure your analogy works as expected ;)
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmP_t4_lpzo
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Not to mention, UIWebView is hobbled with a slower engine. Sometimes we
> > do
> > > get a Michael Schumacher driving a Toyota Corolla, and it's a good
> > > middle-of-the-pack effort, but there's no way he can overtake a Homer
> > > Simpson in a Ferrari engine. That's why we are all here, trying to make
> > the
> > > WebView a Ferrari...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Articles like these are tricky b/c of the YMMV factor. Its very well
> > > > proven that good apps, even completely native feeling apps, *can* be
> > > > built but frankly not every developer is up to that task.
> > > >
> > > > It certainly isn't in our mandate to prescribe web development
> > practices
> > > > either.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://engblog.polyvore.com/2012/12/web-developer-admits-objective-c-html.html?m=1
> > > > >
> > > > > I think I agree with the author. I do still believe the mobile web
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > better in the future though :)
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Blog Points out Cordova's Weak Spots

[Michael Brooks <mi...@michaelbrooks.ca>]

It's a good article that's written in an honest and fair tone.

Personally, I've felt a lot of pain-points that he's mentioned. While
fixing UX / UI performance issues, I've often lost track of what I set out
to create - an app.

However, one important point that I continually keep in mind is that the
web has came an incredibly long way in a short-time. In the past two years
alone, we've seen web applications become incredibly rich. Yes, they aren't
on par with native applications but the gap is narrowing quickly. I see the
"native vs web" debate playing out similar to the "compiled vs interpreted"
language debate that happened six or seven years ago.

Michael

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Not sure your analogy works as expected ;)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmP_t4_lpzo
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Not to mention, UIWebView is hobbled with a slower engine. Sometimes we
> do
> > get a Michael Schumacher driving a Toyota Corolla, and it's a good
> > middle-of-the-pack effort, but there's no way he can overtake a Homer
> > Simpson in a Ferrari engine. That's why we are all here, trying to make
> the
> > WebView a Ferrari...
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > Articles like these are tricky b/c of the YMMV factor. Its very well
> > > proven that good apps, even completely native feeling apps, *can* be
> > > built but frankly not every developer is up to that task.
> > >
> > > It certainly isn't in our mandate to prescribe web development
> practices
> > > either.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://engblog.polyvore.com/2012/12/web-developer-admits-objective-c-html.html?m=1
> > > >
> > > > I think I agree with the author. I do still believe the mobile web
> will
> > > be
> > > > better in the future though :)
> > >
> >
>

Re: Blog Points out Cordova's Weak Spots

[Michal Mocny <mm...@chromium.org>]

Not sure your analogy works as expected ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmP_t4_lpzo


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Shazron <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not to mention, UIWebView is hobbled with a slower engine. Sometimes we do
> get a Michael Schumacher driving a Toyota Corolla, and it's a good
> middle-of-the-pack effort, but there's no way he can overtake a Homer
> Simpson in a Ferrari engine. That's why we are all here, trying to make the
> WebView a Ferrari...
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > Articles like these are tricky b/c of the YMMV factor. Its very well
> > proven that good apps, even completely native feeling apps, *can* be
> > built but frankly not every developer is up to that task.
> >
> > It certainly isn't in our mandate to prescribe web development practices
> > either.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> >
> http://engblog.polyvore.com/2012/12/web-developer-admits-objective-c-html.html?m=1
> > >
> > > I think I agree with the author. I do still believe the mobile web will
> > be
> > > better in the future though :)
> >
>

Re: Blog Points out Cordova's Weak Spots

[Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>]

Not to mention, UIWebView is hobbled with a slower engine. Sometimes we do
get a Michael Schumacher driving a Toyota Corolla, and it's a good
middle-of-the-pack effort, but there's no way he can overtake a Homer
Simpson in a Ferrari engine. That's why we are all here, trying to make the
WebView a Ferrari...


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:

> Articles like these are tricky b/c of the YMMV factor. Its very well
> proven that good apps, even completely native feeling apps, *can* be
> built but frankly not every developer is up to that task.
>
> It certainly isn't in our mandate to prescribe web development practices
> either.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com>
> wrote:
> >
> http://engblog.polyvore.com/2012/12/web-developer-admits-objective-c-html.html?m=1
> >
> > I think I agree with the author. I do still believe the mobile web will
> be
> > better in the future though :)
>

Re: Blog Points out Cordova's Weak Spots

[Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>]

Articles like these are tricky b/c of the YMMV factor. Its very well
proven that good apps, even completely native feeling apps, *can* be
built but frankly not every developer is up to that task.

It certainly isn't in our mandate to prescribe web development practices either.


On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> wrote:
> http://engblog.polyvore.com/2012/12/web-developer-admits-objective-c-html.html?m=1
>
> I think I agree with the author. I do still believe the mobile web will be
> better in the future though :)