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JSP decoration template
Hi,
In Jetspeed 2 all decoration templates are in Velocity. I am working on a
portal application and need to have decoration templates in JSP.
Can some one provide pointers/documentation links to get me started.
Thanks,
Raj
Re: Silent authentication
Posted by Raj Saini <ra...@gmail.com>.
Why you want to be contacted? Can't you post the solution here so that
it will be useful to other users?
Raj
Can Guillaume wrote:
> I have found the solution.
>
> If someone is interested, you can contact me.
>
> Salutations
>
> Guillaume
>
> Guillaume <ca...@yahoo.fr> a écrit :
> Hello everybody,
>
> I'm with J2 M2 version.
> I search a solution to connect me to the portal without having to pass login and password.
> Can i send a authentication with, for example url like : http://JetSpeedPortal/TheServletWhoAuthenticate?login=toto&password=toto
> or with a session protocol ?
>
> Thanx
>
> Guillaume
>
>
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RE: Silent authentication
Posted by Guillaume <ca...@yahoo.fr>.
I have found the solution.
If someone is interested, you can contact me.
Salutations
Guillaume
Guillaume <ca...@yahoo.fr> a écrit :
Hello everybody,
I'm with J2 M2 version.
I search a solution to connect me to the portal without having to pass login and password.
Can i send a authentication with, for example url like : http://JetSpeedPortal/TheServletWhoAuthenticate?login=toto&password=toto
or with a session protocol ?
Thanx
Guillaume
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Silent authentication
Posted by Guillaume <ca...@yahoo.fr>.
Hello everybody,
I'm with J2 M2 version.
I search a solution to connect me to the portal without having to pass login and password.
Can i send a authentication with, for example url like : http://JetSpeedPortal/TheServletWhoAuthenticate?login=toto&password=toto
or with a session protocol ?
Thanx
Guillaume
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RE: JSP decoration template
Posted by Scott T Weaver <sc...@binary-designs.net>.
Please look at the beginnings of my documentation for decorations
here: http://portals.apache.org/jetspeed-2/guides/guide-decorators.html. It
is meant to be as easy as possible (using pre-defined macros) to develop a
layout with knowing little or no Velocity whatsoever. I try to give a
mini-tutorial on Velocity and macros, just enough to get an idea of what is
going on in the background and to get the job done. I have also tried to
side-step using the Jetspeed Power Tool as it has become bloated and hard to
follow code wise. So, I would direct you to look at
src/webapp/WEB-INF/jetspeed_macros.vm to get an idea of the logic you need
to use within your JSPs (IMO, custom tags would be best suited to replace
macros).
I would eventually like to get away from Velocity (even though I love it)
and use an approach similar to Tapestry/Wicket and do direct HTML tag
replacement. I have written APIs (where I work) to do just this but thought
it best to hold off until after release to look at replacing the current
Velocity-based, decoration mechanism.
We originally had JSP and Velocity based decoration/layout mechanisms but
found that Velocity worked much better in that we could control the Velocity
rendering as opposed to the container controlling the JSP rendering.
Another issue is the fact that the layout portlets also use Velocity and use
Velocity directives (#parse()) to include the header and footer decoration
templates (look at:
${JETSPEED}/src/webapp/WEB-INF/templates/layout/html/columns/layout.vm).
This being said, you would need to add functionality/rewrite the layout
portlets to handle JSPs. Again, we used to do this but it became a
maintenance nightmare and mixing Velocity and JSP decorations resulted in
unpredictable results at best.
Regards,
-Scott
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jouni Rajala [mailto:jouni.rajala@systeemiratkaisu.fi]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 1:56 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: Re: JSP decoration template
>
> Raj Saini kirjoitti:
>
> >Hi Randy,
> >
> >I am ready to work on JSP decoration templates. I have experience with
> >taglibs and should not be much difficulty converting existing velocity
> >templates. Certaily I will need your help to understand the structure of
> >existing templates.
> >
> >Can you please point me to any existing documentaion for understanding
> JPT.
> >
> >I have a question about the template structure. Velocity tempates are
> >devided into header and footer part. I personly dont like the idea of
> >separating a template in multiple files because it divides the HTML tags
> in
> >to files and it becomes difficult to edit a template in a editor
> (e.gEclipse).
> >
> >My question is: Is it possible to use just one single file instead of
> two.
> >For example I want to use a single decoration.jsp to contain complete
> >template code.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Raj
> >
> >
> This is good news. While velocity is simple and fast to learn, I just
> don't want to reserve 1 week in my
> schedule to teach it to number of developers when they have years of
> experience in JSP side.
>
> I think portlet decorators are already in single file and content is
> rendered with single 'tag'. I think
> same approach would be good in layout decorators just for the reason you
> mentioned - at least
> I want to use eclipse's jsp editors to do the stuff.
>
> But sorry. I can't contribute any time for the effort. But once you have
> at least something to show/release/test
> I am ready to help you find some bugs ;)
>
> --
> Jouni Rajala
>
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Re: JSP decoration template
Posted by Jouni Rajala <jo...@systeemiratkaisu.fi>.
Raj Saini kirjoitti:
>Hi Randy,
>
>I am ready to work on JSP decoration templates. I have experience with
>taglibs and should not be much difficulty converting existing velocity
>templates. Certaily I will need your help to understand the structure of
>existing templates.
>
>Can you please point me to any existing documentaion for understanding JPT.
>
>I have a question about the template structure. Velocity tempates are
>devided into header and footer part. I personly dont like the idea of
>separating a template in multiple files because it divides the HTML tags in
>to files and it becomes difficult to edit a template in a editor (e.gEclipse).
>
>My question is: Is it possible to use just one single file instead of two.
>For example I want to use a single decoration.jsp to contain complete
>template code.
>
>Regards,
>
>Raj
>
>
This is good news. While velocity is simple and fast to learn, I just
don't want to reserve 1 week in my
schedule to teach it to number of developers when they have years of
experience in JSP side.
I think portlet decorators are already in single file and content is
rendered with single 'tag'. I think
same approach would be good in layout decorators just for the reason you
mentioned - at least
I want to use eclipse's jsp editors to do the stuff.
But sorry. I can't contribute any time for the effort. But once you have
at least something to show/release/test
I am ready to help you find some bugs ;)
--
Jouni Rajala
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Re: JSP decoration template
Posted by Raj Saini <ra...@gmail.com>.
>
>
>
> I think this template structure is helpful for the DRY (don't repeat
> yourself) concept. Imagine: you are changing the portal to a new design:
> would you like to edit and test the same snippet in all the pages?
> Something similar is aimed in the Tiles framework within Struts framework
> using JSP(http://struts.apache.org/struts-tiles/index.html). Could you
> take
> a look at it if it is helpful integrating this in your future work on JSP
> templates?
AFAIK, struts templates are not divided into multiple file. Struts template
is a single file which holds the complete page outline. Page fragments
(tiles) are included into the page outline at runtime. And this is what
actually want to achieve. Jetspeed decorator templates are defined just once
(if I am not wrong) and there is no question of DRY.
For a new portal design, I believe you will need a new tempalte which may
have totally diffrent structure.
> difficult to edit a template in a editor (e.gEclipse).
>
> Maybe it could be helpful in documentation a short "how-to": editing
> templates in editors (e.gEclipse).
> (helpful mainly for beginners like I am :))
Yes, any kind of documation is always helpful.
Thanks,
Raj
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Re: JSP decoration template
Posted by Andrej Vanek <a....@bonum.sk>.
> I have a question about the template structure. Velocity tempates are
> devided into header and footer part. I personly dont like the idea of
> separating a template in multiple files because it divides the HTML tags
in
> to files and it becomes difficult to edit a template in a editor
(e.gEclipse).
I think this template structure is helpful for the DRY (don't repeat
yourself) concept. Imagine: you are changing the portal to a new design:
would you like to edit and test the same snippet in all the pages?
Something similar is aimed in the Tiles framework within Struts framework
using JSP(http://struts.apache.org/struts-tiles/index.html). Could you take
a look at it if it is helpful integrating this in your future work on JSP
templates?
> difficult to edit a template in a editor (e.gEclipse).
Maybe it could be helpful in documentation a short "how-to": editing
templates in editors (e.gEclipse).
(helpful mainly for beginners like I am :))
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Re: JSP decoration template
Posted by Raj Saini <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi Randy,
I am ready to work on JSP decoration templates. I have experience with
taglibs and should not be much difficulty converting existing velocity
templates. Certaily I will need your help to understand the structure of
existing templates.
Can you please point me to any existing documentaion for understanding JPT.
I have a question about the template structure. Velocity tempates are
devided into header and footer part. I personly dont like the idea of
separating a template in multiple files because it divides the HTML tags in
to files and it becomes difficult to edit a template in a editor (e.gEclipse).
My question is: Is it possible to use just one single file instead of two.
For example I want to use a single decoration.jsp to contain complete
template code.
Regards,
Raj
On 12/23/05, Randy Watler <wa...@wispertel.net> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> There have been many discussions about Jetspeed and JSP. JSP used to be
> supported long ago for layouts, but the decorators have always been
> somewhat of a challenge to write in JSP. Add the heavy use of
> velocimacros in decorators to drive decarative menus, and things get
> even more messy. Over time, J2 has become Velocity centric, much to to
> alarm of JSP fans.
>
> What is probably needed is a tag library or two to be written and some
> configuration added to J2 itself to allow an alternative JSP content
> generation step. AFAIK, it remains possible to use JSPs. And yes, you
> are on the right track to understand the JPT and other APIs within J2.
>
> I can provide some help with this, but I personally have no interest in
> JSPs. I think the same can be said of all the existing committers. If
> you wish to contribute to the project, I can help you get the JSP
> implementation into Jetspeed 2, but you'll need to do the bulk of the
> work.
>
> Randy
>
> On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 18:51 +0530, Raj Saini wrote:
> > Hi Jouni,
> >
> > May be we can together figure it out how to create JSP decoration
> templates.
> > After going through Velocity stuff, I think I need to know more about
> macros
> > and jetspeed power tool to know wha velocity templates doing.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Raj
> >
> > On 12/23/05, Jouni Rajala <jo...@systeemiratkaisu.fi> wrote:
> > >
> > > Raj Saini kirjoitti:
> > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > >In Jetspeed 2 all decoration templates are in Velocity. I am working
> on a
> > > >portal application and need to have decoration templates in JSP.
> > > >
> > > >Can some one provide pointers/documentation links to get me started.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >Raj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I have asked this myself before but didn't get any response. I would
> > > like to use jsp in
> > > decorations too. I just don't want to teach another language to my
> > > development
> > > group now that everybody are used to jsp.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jouni Rajala
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
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Re: JSP decoration template
Posted by Raj Saini <ra...@gmail.com>.
While I don't like JSPs much, I'm certainly not fond of Velocity either.
> And I do think we should support JSP based templates.
> As I've been too busy with other area's in Jetspeed I haven't found the
> time
> to work on that yet though.
> So, in addition to Randy, I will help out where I can too.
> But indeed, the initial bulk of the work you probably need to start with
> yourself.
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Raj
Ate
>
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 18:51 +0530, Raj Saini wrote:
> >> Hi Jouni,
> >>
> >> May be we can together figure it out how to create JSP decoration
> templates.
> >> After going through Velocity stuff, I think I need to know more about
> macros
> >> and jetspeed power tool to know wha velocity templates doing.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Raj
> >>
> >> On 12/23/05, Jouni Rajala <jo...@systeemiratkaisu.fi> wrote:
> >>> Raj Saini kirjoitti:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>> In Jetspeed 2 all decoration templates are in Velocity. I am working
> on a
> >>>> portal application and need to have decoration templates in JSP.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can some one provide pointers/documentation links to get me started.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Raj
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> I have asked this myself before but didn't get any response. I would
> >>> like to use jsp in
> >>> decorations too. I just don't want to teach another language to my
> >>> development
> >>> group now that everybody are used to jsp.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jouni Rajala
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: JSP decoration template
Posted by Ate Douma <at...@douma.nu>.
Randy Watler wrote:
> All,
>
> There have been many discussions about Jetspeed and JSP. JSP used to be
> supported long ago for layouts, but the decorators have always been
> somewhat of a challenge to write in JSP. Add the heavy use of
> velocimacros in decorators to drive decarative menus, and things get
> even more messy. Over time, J2 has become Velocity centric, much to to
> alarm of JSP fans.
>
> What is probably needed is a tag library or two to be written and some
> configuration added to J2 itself to allow an alternative JSP content
> generation step. AFAIK, it remains possible to use JSPs. And yes, you
> are on the right track to understand the JPT and other APIs within J2.
>
> I can provide some help with this, but I personally have no interest in
> JSPs. I think the same can be said of all the existing committers. If
> you wish to contribute to the project, I can help you get the JSP
> implementation into Jetspeed 2, but you'll need to do the bulk of the
> work.
While I don't like JSPs much, I'm certainly not fond of Velocity either.
And I do think we should support JSP based templates.
As I've been too busy with other area's in Jetspeed I haven't found the time
to work on that yet though.
So, in addition to Randy, I will help out where I can too.
But indeed, the initial bulk of the work you probably need to start with yourself.
Ate
>
> Randy
>
> On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 18:51 +0530, Raj Saini wrote:
>> Hi Jouni,
>>
>> May be we can together figure it out how to create JSP decoration templates.
>> After going through Velocity stuff, I think I need to know more about macros
>> and jetspeed power tool to know wha velocity templates doing.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Raj
>>
>> On 12/23/05, Jouni Rajala <jo...@systeemiratkaisu.fi> wrote:
>>> Raj Saini kirjoitti:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> In Jetspeed 2 all decoration templates are in Velocity. I am working on a
>>>> portal application and need to have decoration templates in JSP.
>>>>
>>>> Can some one provide pointers/documentation links to get me started.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Raj
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I have asked this myself before but didn't get any response. I would
>>> like to use jsp in
>>> decorations too. I just don't want to teach another language to my
>>> development
>>> group now that everybody are used to jsp.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jouni Rajala
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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Re: JSP decoration template
Posted by Randy Watler <wa...@wispertel.net>.
All,
There have been many discussions about Jetspeed and JSP. JSP used to be
supported long ago for layouts, but the decorators have always been
somewhat of a challenge to write in JSP. Add the heavy use of
velocimacros in decorators to drive decarative menus, and things get
even more messy. Over time, J2 has become Velocity centric, much to to
alarm of JSP fans.
What is probably needed is a tag library or two to be written and some
configuration added to J2 itself to allow an alternative JSP content
generation step. AFAIK, it remains possible to use JSPs. And yes, you
are on the right track to understand the JPT and other APIs within J2.
I can provide some help with this, but I personally have no interest in
JSPs. I think the same can be said of all the existing committers. If
you wish to contribute to the project, I can help you get the JSP
implementation into Jetspeed 2, but you'll need to do the bulk of the
work.
Randy
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 18:51 +0530, Raj Saini wrote:
> Hi Jouni,
>
> May be we can together figure it out how to create JSP decoration templates.
> After going through Velocity stuff, I think I need to know more about macros
> and jetspeed power tool to know wha velocity templates doing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Raj
>
> On 12/23/05, Jouni Rajala <jo...@systeemiratkaisu.fi> wrote:
> >
> > Raj Saini kirjoitti:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >In Jetspeed 2 all decoration templates are in Velocity. I am working on a
> > >portal application and need to have decoration templates in JSP.
> > >
> > >Can some one provide pointers/documentation links to get me started.
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > >Raj
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > I have asked this myself before but didn't get any response. I would
> > like to use jsp in
> > decorations too. I just don't want to teach another language to my
> > development
> > group now that everybody are used to jsp.
> >
> > --
> > Jouni Rajala
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: JSP decoration template
Posted by Raj Saini <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi Jouni,
May be we can together figure it out how to create JSP decoration templates.
After going through Velocity stuff, I think I need to know more about macros
and jetspeed power tool to know wha velocity templates doing.
Regards,
Raj
On 12/23/05, Jouni Rajala <jo...@systeemiratkaisu.fi> wrote:
>
> Raj Saini kirjoitti:
>
> >Hi,
> >In Jetspeed 2 all decoration templates are in Velocity. I am working on a
> >portal application and need to have decoration templates in JSP.
> >
> >Can some one provide pointers/documentation links to get me started.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Raj
> >
> >
> >
> I have asked this myself before but didn't get any response. I would
> like to use jsp in
> decorations too. I just don't want to teach another language to my
> development
> group now that everybody are used to jsp.
>
> --
> Jouni Rajala
>
>
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Re: JSP decoration template
Posted by Jouni Rajala <jo...@systeemiratkaisu.fi>.
Raj Saini kirjoitti:
>Hi,
>In Jetspeed 2 all decoration templates are in Velocity. I am working on a
>portal application and need to have decoration templates in JSP.
>
>Can some one provide pointers/documentation links to get me started.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Raj
>
>
>
I have asked this myself before but didn't get any response. I would
like to use jsp in
decorations too. I just don't want to teach another language to my
development
group now that everybody are used to jsp.
--
Jouni Rajala
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