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[jira] Created: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?
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                 Key: INFRA-2440
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2440
             Project: Infrastructure
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Should http://people.apache.org/dist stil exist?

The directory tree appears to contain a partial set of old releases.

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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Gavin commented on INFRA-2440:
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thanks, thats a better output.

I remember taling about some of those files a while a go, my thoughts remain the same. That is we shouldnt bother archving anything that says 'nighlies' , 'unstable' or 'RC*' - none of them are obviously releases of any kind but rather snapshots for use in testing or voting only.

The rest we can move. Hoever if this starts turning into another debate, I'll defer the issue to someone else, I'm more interesting in cleaning up issues that can and will be done quickly at this point.

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[jira] Updated: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Gavin updated INFRA-2440:
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    Component/s: Dists

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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Sebb commented on INFRA-2440:
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Probably worth keeping an ls -lR listing of the files currently in pao/dist. 
And to make a note of which files were restored to archive.ao.

If archive.ao has been re-arranged, the diff might not find all matches.
These could be dealt with later if one knows which old files were restored.


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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Gavin commented on INFRA-2440:
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Perhaps your referrring to the Jexl stuff missing from one part of archives but found in another (INFRA-2449) , if so then this wont affect it as they are not in dist either.

However, I will check dist against archive and see whats there.

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[jira] Assigned: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Gavin reassigned INFRA-2440:
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    Assignee: Gavin

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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Gavin commented on INFRA-2440:
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I've done a diff -r against archive.apache.org/dist and people.apache.org into compare_dist_archive.txt in my homedir. I then filtered that with sed -e /archive.apache.org/d into only_in_people.txt in my homedir. That file contains approx 1667 lines, so there is plenty of files in people.apache.org/dist that is not in archive.apache.org/dist.

If everyone is happy with that then I'll copy all those missing dirs/files over then remove people.a.o/dist.

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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Sebb commented on INFRA-2440:
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If there are releases here that are not in the archives, then they should probably be copied to archives before deletion.

For example, I think I found a missing version of a Commons release here (don't remember offhand which it was).

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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Joe Schaefer commented on INFRA-2440:
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Any artifacts that have been approved for release by the PMC
belong on the mirrors, be they alphas, betas, or milestones.
people.apache.org/dist is an ugly wart that needs to go away.

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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Henk Penning commented on INFRA-2440:
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Looking at
http://www.apache.org/dev/mirrors.html
under 'Location of files on main server'
sub 'Non-public releases',  there is a
reference to "svn.apache.org/dist/".
This magically redirects to
http://people.apache.org/dist/ .

It is indeed full of old stuff, and in my
view mostly (completely?) obsolete.

I would like to see that the recommandation is to put
alpha, beta, release candidates, milestones etc in
/www/TLP.apache.org/dist/ instead. I hope the TLP's
will be more inclined to put stuff there (instead of
www.apache.org/dist/ and maybe cleanup, now and then.

Henk Penning

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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Gavin commented on INFRA-2440:
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Unless I get objections I'm going to zap the lot tomorrow.!

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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Sebb commented on INFRA-2440:
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I did:

find . -type f | sort

on both trees, and compared the results using comm

That shows 2668 files in pao/dist but not in archive/dist - see attached.


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<pgollucc1> no


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[jira] Updated: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Sebb updated INFRA-2440:
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    Attachment: 1.srt

Output from

comm -23 >1.srt paofind.srt archivefind.srt

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<pquerna> kill it.


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[jira] Issue Comment Edited: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Sebb edited comment on INFRA-2440 at 4/25/10 7:34 AM:
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If there are releases here that are not in the archives, then they should probably be copied to archives before deletion.

For example, I think I found a missing version of a Commons release here (don't remember offhand which it was).

LATER: yes, it was JEXL, as in INFRA-2449

      was (Author: sebb@apache.org):
    If there are releases here that are not in the archives, then they should probably be copied to archives before deletion.

For example, I think I found a missing version of a Commons release here (don't remember offhand which it was).
  
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2440) Should http://people.apache.org/dist still exist?

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Sebb commented on INFRA-2440:
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I agree that nighties/unstable are probably not formal releases.

However RC* has been used for formal releases, similar to beta releases.

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    Assignee: Philip M. Gollucci  (was: Gavin)

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