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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@gmail.com> on 2013/05/03 11:07:49 UTC

Re: [sidebar]Bug 122049: Text displayed on Properties deck when no object is selected

On 4/30/13 8:55 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:
> On 29.04.2013 17:46, Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>> Am Montag, 29. April 2013 um 09:20 schrieb Andre Fischer:
>>> On 24.04.2013 13:12, Armin Le Grand wrote:
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> I agree that the conent (no content) is not good. What we want the
>>>> user to do is to select an object or create/insert one, so it would be
>>>> nice to offer just that. It is a suggestion, but offering insertin of
>>>> objects may be best. Possibilities for this:
>>>>
>>>> (1) Gallery
>>>> (2) Panel which offers to start DrawObject construction, like in the
>>>> drawing toolbar
>>>>
>>>> We have a panel for (1), but the context switch would need to change
>>>> the TabBar (instead of reacting on context switch and changing the
>>>> panels dependent of content).
>>>>
>>>> We have no panel for (2), but it may be not too difficult to crreate
>>>> one. Wouldn't it be nice to have/show that panel for other apps, too?
>>>> It could show the draw object creators as ToolBars with useful groups,
>>>> but some of this vertically, thus offering a much more direct
>>>> selection which object creation to start than the current Draw toolbar
>>>> offers...
>>>>
>>>> Maybe too much for 4.0, but...
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Armin
>>>>
>>>
>>> We still need the replacement text when there is no panel. I agree
>>> that we should show a property panel for Draw. But there are situations
>>> where there is no panel defined. It can even happen as a result of a
>>> configuration error.
>>>
>>> So, does anybody has a better idea than
>>>
>>> "Please, select an object to access its properties"
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> "Properties for the task that you are performing are not available for
>>> the current selection"
>>>
>> We should keep in mind that this kind of changes means some extra work
>> to update the translation sources.
>>
>> It's possible but if at all we will probably update the files only
>> ones. This means we have to define a deadline for this kind of changes.
> 
> Would the end of the week be OK?

yes, I think that would be ok. I will update at the beginning of next
week the translation sources.

Juergen


> 
> -Andre
> 
>>
>> Juergen
>>> ?
>>> -Andre
>>>
>>>> On 24.04.2013 09:37, Andre Fischer wrote:
>>>>> On 23.04.2013 21:43, RGB ES wrote:
>>>>>>  From enhancement request 122049
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122049
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With the sidebar enabled, on a Draw document with no object selected
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Properties deck shows no controls and only displays the following
>>>>>> text
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Properties for the task that you are performing are not available
>>>>>> in the
>>>>>> sidebar at this time"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This text is a bit misleading, because it is not clear that you only
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> to select an object to see something there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm no native English speaker so I'm not able to provide a good
>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>> for that text. Something like
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Please, select an object to access its properties"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> comes to my mind, but for sure there is a better wording.
>>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Ricardo
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for starting this discussion. What about this:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Properties for the task that you are performing are not available
>>>>> for the current selection"
>>>>>
>>>>> -Andre
>>>>>
>>>>>
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