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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org> on 2007/08/17 11:17:24 UTC
Commons as a sponsor for Sanselan?
Some weeks ago I added a proposal for a new incubator proposal: the
java image library sanselan[1][2].
It seems that general thinking is to start sanselan as a sub project of
commons. So, my question is now, if commons is interested to become
the sponsor of the sanselan project?
Carsten
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SanselanProposal
[2]
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200707.mbox/%3c46A993D8.5030604@apache.org%3e
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Re: Commons as a sponsor for Sanselan?
Posted by Jochen Wiedmann <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 8/19/07, Antoine Levy-Lambert <an...@gmx.de> wrote:
> So probably it is OK to say that we would welcome sanselan as a sub
> project but not to say that sun or rain sanselan will become a commons
> subproject after graduation.
We need not say that. It goes without saying, because this is the
Incubator standard.
Jochen
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Re: Commons as a sponsor for Sanselan?
Posted by Antoine Levy-Lambert <an...@gmx.de>.
Hello Jochen and Carsten,
I have a different experience.
Ant has sponsored ivy, which is a relatively new project in the incubator.
A project coming in to the incubator with a sponsoring project already
in Apache-Land gets accepted nearly automatically.
For ivy, the Ant PMC voted a resolution according to which Ant was
sponsoring the incubation of Ivy.
We decided if I remember properly that Ivy would be free after
graduation from incubation to become its own TLP or to become a
subproject of Ant.
So probably it is OK to say that we would welcome sanselan as a sub
project but not to say that sun or rain sanselan will become a commons
subproject after graduation.
Otherwise I looked at the web site of sanselan, this looks like an
interesting development that we would like to have in Apache Land. Just
my two cents.
Antoine
Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
> On 8/17/07, Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>> It seems that general thinking is to start sanselan as a sub project of
>> commons. So, my question is now, if commons is interested to become
>> the sponsor of the sanselan project?
>>
>
> Carsten,
>
> as far as I know, the Incubator does neither depend on a sponsoring
> project (in fact, from experience I'd recommend that you avoid a
> sponsoring project, because it means that you've got to deal with only
> one PMC while being in the incubator :-) nor is the incubated projects
> target assumed to be final.
>
> I'd personally also believe that the relation with projects outside
> Commons would be much closer (for example, xmlgraphics, or the content
> generation frameworks), but I wouldn't mind if it lives here.
>
> Jochen
>
>
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Re: Commons as a sponsor for Sanselan?
Posted by Jochen Wiedmann <jo...@gmail.com>.
On 8/17/07, Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@apache.org> wrote:
> It seems that general thinking is to start sanselan as a sub project of
> commons. So, my question is now, if commons is interested to become
> the sponsor of the sanselan project?
Carsten,
as far as I know, the Incubator does neither depend on a sponsoring
project (in fact, from experience I'd recommend that you avoid a
sponsoring project, because it means that you've got to deal with only
one PMC while being in the incubator :-) nor is the incubated projects
target assumed to be final.
I'd personally also believe that the relation with projects outside
Commons would be much closer (for example, xmlgraphics, or the content
generation frameworks), but I wouldn't mind if it lives here.
Jochen
--
"Besides, manipulating elections is under penalty of law, resulting in
a preventative effect against manipulating elections.
The german government justifying the use of electronic voting machines
and obviously believing that we don't need a police, because all
illegal actions are forbidden.
http://dip.bundestag.de/btd/16/051/1605194.pdf
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