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Posted to dev@dubbo.apache.org by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> on 2019/04/25 08:02:11 UTC

[DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Hi All,

As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To avoid
it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
plan.

For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:

1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
it in the future.

I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.

The next step is to decide what A is. Actually naming a thing is one
of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
section, it says Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".

I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?

For the long-term plan:

1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.

This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:

* js-for-apache-dubbo
* py-client-for-apache-dubbo
* rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
* jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
* go-for-apache-dubbo
* php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
* dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
* serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
* jms-for-apache-dubbo
* dubbo.github.io
* metrics
* hessian-lite
* dubbo-sentinel-support
* awesome-dubbo
* dubbo-remoting-js
* egg-dubbo-rpc
* rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
* intellij-idea-plugin
* initializr

If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:

1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
What you will need to do includes:
- Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
- If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
- request ASF infra to transfer the project
3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.

2. Gain write access to your project after transfer

If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.

3. After the transition is done, delete group A.

The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
[2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
[3] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
[4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status

--
Best Regards！
Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Jun Liu <li...@apache.org>.

I just reviewed a PR[0] aimed at merging 'dubbo/rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo’ into the core repo, I think it’s good to go, we can merge it after the author responded my change requests on two trivial issues.

0. https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/pull/3965

Ken

> On Apr 25, 2019, at 4:02 PM, Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
> the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To avoid
> it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> plan.
> 
> For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
> 
> 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
> keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
> it in the future.
> 
> I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.
> 
> The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
> of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
> local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
> 
> I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
> 
> 
> For the long-term plan:
> 
> 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
> be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
> most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
> 
> This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
> 
> * js-for-apache-dubbo
> * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> * go-for-apache-dubbo
> * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> * dubbo.github.io
> * metrics
> * hessian-lite
> * dubbo-sentinel-support
> * awesome-dubbo
> * dubbo-remoting-js
> * egg-dubbo-rpc
> * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> * intellij-idea-plugin
> * initializr
> 
> 
> If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
> 
> 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
> What you will need to do includes:
> - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
> 
> 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
> 
> If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
> by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
> 
> 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
> 
> The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
> 
> 
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> [2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> [3] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards！
> Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by 凝雨 <ni...@163.com>.

At 2019-04-26 08:35:42, "Huxing Zhang" <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 12:54 AM 凝雨 <ni...@163.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>>
>> I'm the author of jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo. I'd like to transfer the project to ASF.
>>
>>
>> 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
>>
>>
>> Yes
>>
>>
>> > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
>> > What you will need to do includes:
>> > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
>> > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
>>
>>
>> I seem to have signed ICLA. Please check it.
>
>If you have already signed, there is no need to sign it again.
>However since you have going transfer to ASF, you might need to sign the SGA.
>Besides, could you give when will you plan to finish it transfer? No
>need to be very accurate, just a rough estimation will be ok.

It takes about a month, at the end of May.


Best regards,
ningyu

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>.

Hi,

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 12:54 AM 凝雨 <ni...@163.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
>
> I'm the author of jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo. I'd like to transfer the project to ASF.
>
>
> 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
>
>
> Yes
>
>
> > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
> > What you will need to do includes:
> > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
>
>
> I seem to have signed ICLA. Please check it.

If you have already signed, there is no need to sign it again.
However since you have going transfer to ASF, you might need to sign the SGA.
Besides, could you give when will you plan to finish it transfer? No
need to be very accurate, just a rough estimation will be ok.

> On 04/25/2019 16:02, Huxing Zhang wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
> the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To avoid
> it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> plan.
>
> For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
>
> 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
> keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
> it in the future.
>
> I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.
>
> The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
> of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
> local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
>
> I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
>
>
> For the long-term plan:
>
> 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
> be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
> most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
>
> This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
>
> * js-for-apache-dubbo
> * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> * go-for-apache-dubbo
> * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> * dubbo.github.io
> * metrics
> * hessian-lite
> * dubbo-sentinel-support
> * awesome-dubbo
> * dubbo-remoting-js
> * egg-dubbo-rpc
> * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> * intellij-idea-plugin
> * initializr
>
>
> If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
>
> 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
> What you will need to do includes:
> - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
>
> 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
>
> If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
> by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
>
> 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
>
> The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
>
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> [2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> [3] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing



-- 
Best Regards！
Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by 凝雨 <ni...@163.com>.

Hi there,

I'm the author of jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo. I'd like to transfer the project to ASF.

1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.

Yes

> 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
> What you will need to do includes:
> - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore

I seem to have signed ICLA. Please check it.
On 04/25/2019 16:02, Huxing Zhang wrote:
Hi All,

For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:

I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.

I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?

For the long-term plan:

This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:

If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:

2. Gain write access to your project after transfer

3. After the transition is done, delete group A.

The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].

--
Best Regards！
Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Ian Luo <ia...@gmail.com>.

for hessian-lite, we could transfer it to ASF and rename it as
dubbo-hessian-lite.

-Ian.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 5:24 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 5:00 PM Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > >> * metrics
> > >> * hessian-lite
> >
> > Didn’t both of these already get transferred to the ASF?
>
> metrics is not transferred.
> hessian-lite is separated from incubator-dubbo. Yes it is transferred
> before. Is it a problem?
> If it is required, no object to transfer to ASF. Assuming no IP
> issues, the transfer should be quick. May 10 looks good.
> If transfer to ASF, then things need to be done, like package rename
> from com.alibaba to org.apache, etc.
> Does other project other than Dubbo depend on it?
>
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>.

Hi,

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 5:00 PM Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> >> * metrics
> >> * hessian-lite
>
> Didn’t both of these already get transferred to the ASF?

metrics is not transferred.
hessian-lite is separated from incubator-dubbo. Yes it is transferred
before. Is it a problem?
If it is required, no object to transfer to ASF. Assuming no IP
issues, the transfer should be quick. May 10 looks good.
If transfer to ASF, then things need to be done, like package rename
from com.alibaba to org.apache, etc.
Does other project other than Dubbo depend on it?

>
> Thanks,
> Justin

-- 
Best Regards！
Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>.

Hi,

>> * metrics
>> * hessian-lite

Didn’t both of these already get transferred to the ASF?

Thanks,
Justin

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Xin Wang <xi...@gmail.com>.

>   rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo

This is going to be merged into incubator-dubbo:
ETA is May 15.

Eric Zhao <sc...@gmail.com> 于2019年4月25日周四 下午7:43写道：

> Hi,
>
> > How soon will to finish signing SGA? Could you please give an ETA?
>
> I've finished signing both the ICLA and SGA. Please check.
>
> > I can help to request the INFRA to transfer, I am thinking to group
> them together.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Eric
>
> Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月25日周四 下午5:37写道：
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 5:28 PM Eric Zhao <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I'm the author of dubbo-sentinel-support. I'd like to transfer the
> > project
> > > to ASF.
> > >
> > > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> > >
> > > Yes
> >
> > Nice.
> >
> > >
> > > > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish
> > transfer.
> > > > What you will need to do includes:
> > > > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > > > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> > >
> > > I'll sign the ICLA today.
> >
> > >
> > > > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> > > > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> >
> > How soon will to finish signing SGA? Could you please give an ETA?
> >
> > >
> > > Seems that I don't have the permission to transfer the project. Could
> you
> > > please help me to transfer the project?
> >
> > I can help to request the INFRA to transfer, I am thinking to group
> > them together.
> >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月25日周四 下午4:25写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing
> list,
> > > > > the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To
> > avoid
> > > > > it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> > > > > plan.
> > > > >
> > > > > For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> > > > > 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A,
> and
> > > > > keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to
> abuse
> > > > > it in the future.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may
> > think.
> > > > >
> > > > > The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is
> one
> > > > > of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> > > > > related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> > > > > section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of
> > the
> > > > > local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
> > > > >
> > > > > I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> > > > > dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For the long-term plan:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected
> to
> > > > > be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked
> > to
> > > > > most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> > > > > project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
> > > > >
> > > > > This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
> > > > >
> > > > > * js-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > > * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > > * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > > * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > > * go-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > > * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > > * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > > * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > > * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > > * dubbo.github.io
> > > >
> > > > I suggest to redirect dubbo.io directly to dubbo.apache.org from DNS
> > > > and remote this project. I think it can be done before May 31.
> > > >
> > > > > * metrics
> > > >
> > > > This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
> > > > alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.
> > > >
> > > > > * hessian-lite
> > > >
> > > > This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
> > > > alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.
> > > >
> > > > > * dubbo-sentinel-support
> > > > > * awesome-dubbo
> > > >
> > > > I suggest to transfer to ASF, most of the contributors are Dubbo
> PPMC.
> > > > I think it can be done before May 31.
> > > >
> > > > > * dubbo-remoting-js
> > > > > * egg-dubbo-rpc
> > > > > * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > > * intellij-idea-plugin
> > > > > * initializr
> > > >
> > > > I suggest to go to ASF if license is OK, otherwise go to alibaba.
> > > > Depending on the case, I think it can be done before May 31.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> > > > > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish
> > > > transfer.
> > > > > What you will need to do includes:
> > > > > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > > > > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> > > > > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> > > > > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> > > > > 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
> > > > >
> > > > > If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> > > > > access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as
> committer
> > > > > by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> > > > > the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
> > > > >
> > > > > The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> > > > > [2]
> > > >
> >
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> > > > > [3]
> > > >
> >
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> > > > > [4]
> > > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Best Regards！
> > > > > Huxing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best Regards！
> > > > Huxing
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards！
> > Huxing
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Eric Zhao <sc...@gmail.com>.

Hi,

> How soon will to finish signing SGA? Could you please give an ETA?

I've finished signing both the ICLA and SGA. Please check.

> I can help to request the INFRA to transfer, I am thinking to group
them together.

Thanks!


--
Best Regards,
Eric

Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月25日周四 下午5:37写道：

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 5:28 PM Eric Zhao <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I'm the author of dubbo-sentinel-support. I'd like to transfer the
> project
> > to ASF.
> >
> > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> >
> > Yes
>
> Nice.
>
> >
> > > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish
> transfer.
> > > What you will need to do includes:
> > > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> >
> > I'll sign the ICLA today.
>
> >
> > > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> > > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
>
> How soon will to finish signing SGA? Could you please give an ETA?
>
> >
> > Seems that I don't have the permission to transfer the project. Could you
> > please help me to transfer the project?
>
> I can help to request the INFRA to transfer, I am thinking to group
> them together.
>
> >
> > ---
> > Best Regards,
> > Eric
> >
> > Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月25日周四 下午4:25写道：
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
> > > > the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To
> avoid
> > > > it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> > > > plan.
> > > >
> > > > For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> > > > 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
> > > > keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
> > > > it in the future.
> > > >
> > > > I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may
> think.
> > > >
> > > > The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
> > > > of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> > > > related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> > > > section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of
> the
> > > > local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
> > > >
> > > > I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> > > > dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > For the long-term plan:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
> > > > be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked
> to
> > > > most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> > > > project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
> > > >
> > > > This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
> > > >
> > > > * js-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > * go-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > * dubbo.github.io
> > >
> > > I suggest to redirect dubbo.io directly to dubbo.apache.org from DNS
> > > and remote this project. I think it can be done before May 31.
> > >
> > > > * metrics
> > >
> > > This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
> > > alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.
> > >
> > > > * hessian-lite
> > >
> > > This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
> > > alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.
> > >
> > > > * dubbo-sentinel-support
> > > > * awesome-dubbo
> > >
> > > I suggest to transfer to ASF, most of the contributors are Dubbo PPMC.
> > > I think it can be done before May 31.
> > >
> > > > * dubbo-remoting-js
> > > > * egg-dubbo-rpc
> > > > * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> > > > * intellij-idea-plugin
> > > > * initializr
> > >
> > > I suggest to go to ASF if license is OK, otherwise go to alibaba.
> > > Depending on the case, I think it can be done before May 31.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
> > > >
> > > > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> > > > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish
> > > transfer.
> > > > What you will need to do includes:
> > > > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > > > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> > > > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> > > > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> > > > 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
> > > >
> > > > 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
> > > >
> > > > If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> > > > access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
> > > > by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> > > > the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
> > > >
> > > > 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
> > > >
> > > > The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> > > > [2]
> > >
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> > > > [3]
> > >
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> > > > [4]
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best Regards！
> > > > Huxing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards！
> > > Huxing
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>.

Hi,

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 5:28 PM Eric Zhao <sc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I'm the author of dubbo-sentinel-support. I'd like to transfer the project
> to ASF.
>
> 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
>
> Yes

Nice.

>
> > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
> > What you will need to do includes:
> > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
>
> I'll sign the ICLA today.

>
> > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> > - request ASF infra to transfer the project

How soon will to finish signing SGA? Could you please give an ETA?

>
> Seems that I don't have the permission to transfer the project. Could you
> please help me to transfer the project?

I can help to request the INFRA to transfer, I am thinking to group
them together.

>
> ---
> Best Regards,
> Eric
>
> Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月25日周四 下午4:25写道：
>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
> > > the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To avoid
> > > it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> > > plan.
> > >
> > > For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
> > >
> > > 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> > > 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
> > > keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
> > > it in the future.
> > >
> > > I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.
> > >
> > > The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
> > > of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> > > related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> > > section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
> > > local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
> > >
> > > I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> > > dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
> > >
> > >
> > > For the long-term plan:
> > >
> > > 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
> > > be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
> > > most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> > > project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
> > >
> > > This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
> > >
> > > * js-for-apache-dubbo
> > > * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> > > * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> > > * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> > > * go-for-apache-dubbo
> > > * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> > > * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> > > * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> > > * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> > > * dubbo.github.io
> >
> > I suggest to redirect dubbo.io directly to dubbo.apache.org from DNS
> > and remote this project. I think it can be done before May 31.
> >
> > > * metrics
> >
> > This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
> > alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.
> >
> > > * hessian-lite
> >
> > This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
> > alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.
> >
> > > * dubbo-sentinel-support
> > > * awesome-dubbo
> >
> > I suggest to transfer to ASF, most of the contributors are Dubbo PPMC.
> > I think it can be done before May 31.
> >
> > > * dubbo-remoting-js
> > > * egg-dubbo-rpc
> > > * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> > > * intellij-idea-plugin
> > > * initializr
> >
> > I suggest to go to ASF if license is OK, otherwise go to alibaba.
> > Depending on the case, I think it can be done before May 31.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
> > >
> > > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> > > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish
> > transfer.
> > > What you will need to do includes:
> > > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> > > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> > > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> > > 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
> > >
> > > 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
> > >
> > > If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> > > access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
> > > by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> > > the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
> > >
> > > 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
> > >
> > > The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> > > [2]
> > http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> > > [3]
> > http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> > > [4]
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards！
> > > Huxing
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards！
> > Huxing
> >



-- 
Best Regards！
Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Eric Zhao <sc...@gmail.com>.

Hi there,

I'm the author of dubbo-sentinel-support. I'd like to transfer the project
to ASF.

1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.

Yes

> 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
> What you will need to do includes:
> - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore

I'll sign the ICLA today.

> - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> - request ASF infra to transfer the project

Seems that I don't have the permission to transfer the project. Could you
please help me to transfer the project?

---
Best Regards,
Eric

Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月25日周四 下午4:25写道：

> Hi,
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
> > the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To avoid
> > it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> > plan.
> >
> > For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
> >
> > 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> > 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
> > keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
> > it in the future.
> >
> > I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.
> >
> > The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
> > of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> > related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> > section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
> > local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
> >
> > I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> > dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
> >
> >
> > For the long-term plan:
> >
> > 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
> > be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
> > most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> > project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
> >
> > This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
> >
> > * js-for-apache-dubbo
> > * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> > * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> > * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> > * go-for-apache-dubbo
> > * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> > * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> > * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> > * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> > * dubbo.github.io
>
> I suggest to redirect dubbo.io directly to dubbo.apache.org from DNS
> and remote this project. I think it can be done before May 31.
>
> > * metrics
>
> This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
> alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.
>
> > * hessian-lite
>
> This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
> alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.
>
> > * dubbo-sentinel-support
> > * awesome-dubbo
>
> I suggest to transfer to ASF, most of the contributors are Dubbo PPMC.
> I think it can be done before May 31.
>
> > * dubbo-remoting-js
> > * egg-dubbo-rpc
> > * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> > * intellij-idea-plugin
> > * initializr
>
> I suggest to go to ASF if license is OK, otherwise go to alibaba.
> Depending on the case, I think it can be done before May 31.
>
> >
> >
> > If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
> >
> > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish
> transfer.
> > What you will need to do includes:
> > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> > 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
> >
> > 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
> >
> > If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> > access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
> > by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> > the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
> >
> > 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
> >
> > The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
> >
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> > [2]
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> > [3]
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> > [4]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards！
> > Huxing
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Ian Luo <ia...@gmail.com>.

+1 to the proposal.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:25 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
> > the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To avoid
> > it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> > plan.
> >
> > For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
> >
> > 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> > 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
> > keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
> > it in the future.
> >
> > I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.
> >
> > The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
> > of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> > related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> > section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
> > local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
> >
> > I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> > dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
> >
> >
> > For the long-term plan:
> >
> > 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
> > be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
> > most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> > project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
> >
> > This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
> >
> > * js-for-apache-dubbo
> > * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> > * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> > * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> > * go-for-apache-dubbo
> > * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> > * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> > * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> > * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> > * dubbo.github.io
>
> I suggest to redirect dubbo.io directly to dubbo.apache.org from DNS
> and remote this project. I think it can be done before May 31.
>
> > * metrics
>
> This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
> alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.
>
> > * hessian-lite
>
> This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
> alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.
>
> > * dubbo-sentinel-support
> > * awesome-dubbo
>
> I suggest to transfer to ASF, most of the contributors are Dubbo PPMC.
> I think it can be done before May 31.
>
> > * dubbo-remoting-js
> > * egg-dubbo-rpc
> > * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> > * intellij-idea-plugin
> > * initializr
>
> I suggest to go to ASF if license is OK, otherwise go to alibaba.
> Depending on the case, I think it can be done before May 31.
>
> >
> >
> > If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
> >
> > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish
> transfer.
> > What you will need to do includes:
> > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> > 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
> >
> > 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
> >
> > If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> > access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
> > by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> > the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
> >
> > 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
> >
> > The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
> >
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> > [2]
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> > [3]
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> > [4]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards！
> > Huxing
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>.

Hi,


On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
> the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To avoid
> it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> plan.
>
> For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
>
> 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
> keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
> it in the future.
>
> I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.
>
> The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
> of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
> local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
>
> I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
>
>
> For the long-term plan:
>
> 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
> be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
> most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
>
> This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
>
> * js-for-apache-dubbo
> * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> * go-for-apache-dubbo
> * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> * dubbo.github.io

I suggest to redirect dubbo.io directly to dubbo.apache.org from DNS
and remote this project. I think it can be done before May 31.

> * metrics

This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.

> * hessian-lite

This project has no strong relation to Dubbo, I suggest to move it to
alibaba group, I think it can be done before May 10.

> * dubbo-sentinel-support
> * awesome-dubbo

I suggest to transfer to ASF, most of the contributors are Dubbo PPMC.
I think it can be done before May 31.

> * dubbo-remoting-js
> * egg-dubbo-rpc
> * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> * intellij-idea-plugin
> * initializr

I suggest to go to ASF if license is OK, otherwise go to alibaba.
Depending on the case, I think it can be done before May 31.

>
>
> If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
>
> 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
> What you will need to do includes:
> - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
>
> 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
>
> If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
> by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
>
> 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
>
> The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
>
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> [2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> [3] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing



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Re:[DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Joe Cao <ca...@139.com>.

Hi All,

I am author of py-client-for-apache-dubbo, i'd like to transfer this project back to qianmiopen, it will be done before 2019-5-24.

Thank you

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----The following is the content of the forwarded email----
From：Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>
To：dev <de...@dubbo.apache.org>
Date：2019-04-25 16:02:11
Subject：[DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Hi All,

For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:

I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.

I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?

For the long-term plan:

This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:

If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:

2. Gain write access to your project after transfer

3. After the transition is done, delete group A.

The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].

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Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>.

Hi,

<snip/>

> * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo

This is going to be merged into incubator-dubbo:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/pull/3775
ETA is May 10.

<snip/>

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Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Ian Luo <ia...@gmail.com>.

serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo will be transferred in the
middle of May.

-Ian.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
> the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To avoid
> it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> plan.
>
> For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
>
> 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
> keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
> it in the future.
>
> I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.
>
> The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
> of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
> local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
>
> I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
>
>
> For the long-term plan:
>
> 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
> be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
> most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
>
> This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
>
> * js-for-apache-dubbo
> * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> * go-for-apache-dubbo
> * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> * dubbo.github.io
> * metrics
> * hessian-lite
> * dubbo-sentinel-support
> * awesome-dubbo
> * dubbo-remoting-js
> * egg-dubbo-rpc
> * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> * intellij-idea-plugin
> * initializr
>
>
> If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
>
> 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
> What you will need to do includes:
> - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
>
> 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
>
> If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
> by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
>
> 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
>
> The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
>
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> [2]
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> [3]
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> [4]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by 凝雨 <ni...@163.com>.

Ok
On 04/26/2019 19:30, Huxing Zhang wrote:
Hi All,

Thanks for everyone's quick response, I've update the current status
here[1], with a new column ETA added.

We have received responses from almost all the 19 projects expect
intellij-idea-pluggin.

Given that:
- 14 projects agree with transfer to ASF with ETA, most of them will
finish transfer before May 31, and some will finish before June 30
- 3 projects wish to transfer out of dubbo but not to ASF.
- 1 project will be deleted
- 1 projects intellij-idea-pluggin is awaiting response, assuming no
branding issue.

I feel there is no need to move projects to other group. The dubbo
group will be empty no later than June 30.
How do you think?


[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status


--
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Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>.

Hi,

On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 10:32 PM Ian Luo <ia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Agree, according wikipedia [1], where the original code name for this
> project comes from, "Thubbo" is a good choice:
>
> Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the local Wiradjuri word
> > "Thubbo" but because of a lack of precise records from Dulhunty at the time
> > and an incomplete knowledge of the Wiradjuri language
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiradjuri_language> today there is some
> > conjecture over the word's meaning.
>
>
> I hope we can move all projects under Dubbo into Apache so that we don't
> need to maintain "Thubbo" group either, but I am not objective to do so if
> some of projects fail to move before ETA.

Good catch, I am trying to wrap up the status and reply to IPMC to see
if they agree with it.
I will add this point.
>
> Regards,
> -Ian.
>
>
> 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
>
> On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:13 AM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 7:30 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Thanks for everyone's quick response, I've update the current status
> > > here[1], with a new column ETA added.
> > >
> > > We have received responses from almost all the 19 projects expect
> > > intellij-idea-pluggin.
> > >
> > > Given that:
> > > - 14 projects agree with transfer to ASF with ETA, most of them will
> > > finish transfer before May 31, and some will finish before June 30
> > > - 3 projects wish to transfer out of dubbo but not to ASF.
> > > - 1 project will be deleted
> > > - 1 projects intellij-idea-pluggin is awaiting response, assuming no
> > > branding issue.
> > >
> > > I feel there is no need to move projects to other group. The dubbo
> > > group will be empty no later than June 30.
> > > How do you think?
> >
> > I have created the thubbo group[1], if we got no response from author
> > of intellij-idea-pluggin,
> > this project can be moved thubbo. I am suggesting to do it before May 31.
> > For other projects that have clear ETA, there is no need to transfer
> > it to thubbo.
> > What do you say?
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/thubbo
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1]
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards！
> > > Huxing
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards！
> > Huxing
> >



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Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Ian Luo <ia...@gmail.com>.

Agree, according wikipedia [1], where the original code name for this
project comes from, "Thubbo" is a good choice:

Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the local Wiradjuri word
> "Thubbo" but because of a lack of precise records from Dulhunty at the time
> and an incomplete knowledge of the Wiradjuri language
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiradjuri_language> today there is some
> conjecture over the word's meaning.


I hope we can move all projects under Dubbo into Apache so that we don't
need to maintain "Thubbo" group either, but I am not objective to do so if
some of projects fail to move before ETA.

Regards,
-Ian.


1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo

On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 9:13 AM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 7:30 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Thanks for everyone's quick response, I've update the current status
> > here[1], with a new column ETA added.
> >
> > We have received responses from almost all the 19 projects expect
> > intellij-idea-pluggin.
> >
> > Given that:
> > - 14 projects agree with transfer to ASF with ETA, most of them will
> > finish transfer before May 31, and some will finish before June 30
> > - 3 projects wish to transfer out of dubbo but not to ASF.
> > - 1 project will be deleted
> > - 1 projects intellij-idea-pluggin is awaiting response, assuming no
> > branding issue.
> >
> > I feel there is no need to move projects to other group. The dubbo
> > group will be empty no later than June 30.
> > How do you think?
>
> I have created the thubbo group[1], if we got no response from author
> of intellij-idea-pluggin,
> this project can be moved thubbo. I am suggesting to do it before May 31.
> For other projects that have clear ETA, there is no need to transfer
> it to thubbo.
> What do you say?
>
> [1] https://github.com/thubbo
>
> >
> >
> > [1]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards！
> > Huxing
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>.

Hi,

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 7:30 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Thanks for everyone's quick response, I've update the current status
> here[1], with a new column ETA added.
>
> We have received responses from almost all the 19 projects expect
> intellij-idea-pluggin.
>
> Given that:
> - 14 projects agree with transfer to ASF with ETA, most of them will
> finish transfer before May 31, and some will finish before June 30
> - 3 projects wish to transfer out of dubbo but not to ASF.
> - 1 project will be deleted
> - 1 projects intellij-idea-pluggin is awaiting response, assuming no
> branding issue.
>
> I feel there is no need to move projects to other group. The dubbo
> group will be empty no later than June 30.
> How do you think?

I have created the thubbo group[1], if we got no response from author
of intellij-idea-pluggin,
this project can be moved thubbo. I am suggesting to do it before May 31.
For other projects that have clear ETA, there is no need to transfer
it to thubbo.
What do you say?

[1] https://github.com/thubbo

>
>
> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing



-- 
Best Regards！
Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>.

Hi All,

Thanks for everyone's quick response, I've update the current status
here[1], with a new column ETA added.

We have received responses from almost all the 19 projects expect
intellij-idea-pluggin.

Given that:
- 14 projects agree with transfer to ASF with ETA, most of them will
finish transfer before May 31, and some will finish before June 30
- 3 projects wish to transfer out of dubbo but not to ASF.
- 1 project will be deleted
- 1 projects intellij-idea-pluggin is awaiting response, assuming no
branding issue.

I feel there is no need to move projects to other group. The dubbo
group will be empty no later than June 30.
How do you think?


[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status


-- 
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Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by KimmKing <ki...@apache.org>.

yes

Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月26日周五 下午7:14写道：

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 6:53 PM kimm king <ki...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Of course, dubbo-dotnet is also need to transfer.
>
> I am assuming you can finish the transfer before May 31th, am I right?
>
>
> >
> > Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月26日周五 下午5:56写道：
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:50 PM kimm king <ki...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I will transfer jms-for-apache-dubbo rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> > > awesome-dubbo to ASF before the end of May.
> > >
> > > There is a pull request to merge rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo into
> > > incubator-dubbo, so I think there is no need to transfer.
> > > What about dubbo-dotnet project?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月26日周五 下午4:01写道：
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi All,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing
> list,
> > > >> > the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To
> > > avoid
> > > >> > it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> > > >> > plan.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> > > >> > 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A,
> and
> > > >> > keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to
> abuse
> > > >> > it in the future.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may
> > > think.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is
> one
> > > >> > of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> > > >> > related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> > > >> > section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation
> of the
> > > >> > local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different
> to
> > > >> > dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > For the long-term plan:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected
> to
> > > >> > be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I
> talked to
> > > >> > most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> > > >> > project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > * js-for-apache-dubbo
> > > >> > * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> > > >> > * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> > > >> > * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> > > >> > * go-for-apache-dubbo
> > > >> > * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> > > >> > * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> > > >> > * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> > > >> > * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> > > >> > * dubbo.github.io
> > > >> > * metrics
> > > >> > * hessian-lite
> > > >> > * dubbo-sentinel-support
> > > >> > * awesome-dubbo
> > > >> > * dubbo-remoting-js
> > > >> > * egg-dubbo-rpc
> > > >> > * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> > > >> > * intellij-idea-plugin
> > > >> > * initializr
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> > > >> > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish
> > > transfer.
> > > >> > What you will need to do includes:
> > > >> > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > > >> > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> > > >> > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> > > >> > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> > > >> > 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> > > >> > access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as
> committer
> > > >> > by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute
> to
> > > >> > the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> > > >> > [2]
> > >
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> > > >> > [3]
> > >
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> > > >> > [4]
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Best Regards！
> > > >> > Huxing
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Best Regards！
> > > >> Huxing
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best Regards！
> > > Huxing
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>.

Hi,

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 6:53 PM kimm king <ki...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Of course, dubbo-dotnet is also need to transfer.

I am assuming you can finish the transfer before May 31th, am I right?


>
> Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月26日周五 下午5:56写道：
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:50 PM kimm king <ki...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I will transfer jms-for-apache-dubbo rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> > awesome-dubbo to ASF before the end of May.
> >
> > There is a pull request to merge rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo into
> > incubator-dubbo, so I think there is no need to transfer.
> > What about dubbo-dotnet project?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月26日周五 下午4:01写道：
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi All,
> > >> >
> > >> > As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
> > >> > the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To
> > avoid
> > >> > it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> > >> > plan.
> > >> >
> > >> > For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
> > >> >
> > >> > 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> > >> > 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
> > >> > keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
> > >> > it in the future.
> > >> >
> > >> > I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may
> > think.
> > >> >
> > >> > The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
> > >> > of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> > >> > related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> > >> > section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
> > >> > local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
> > >> >
> > >> > I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> > >> > dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > For the long-term plan:
> > >> >
> > >> > 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
> > >> > be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
> > >> > most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> > >> > project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
> > >> >
> > >> > This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
> > >> >
> > >> > * js-for-apache-dubbo
> > >> > * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> > >> > * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> > >> > * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> > >> > * go-for-apache-dubbo
> > >> > * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> > >> > * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> > >> > * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> > >> > * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> > >> > * dubbo.github.io
> > >> > * metrics
> > >> > * hessian-lite
> > >> > * dubbo-sentinel-support
> > >> > * awesome-dubbo
> > >> > * dubbo-remoting-js
> > >> > * egg-dubbo-rpc
> > >> > * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> > >> > * intellij-idea-plugin
> > >> > * initializr
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
> > >> >
> > >> > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> > >> > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish
> > transfer.
> > >> > What you will need to do includes:
> > >> > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > >> > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> > >> > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> > >> > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> > >> > 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
> > >> >
> > >> > 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
> > >> >
> > >> > If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> > >> > access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
> > >> > by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> > >> > the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
> > >> >
> > >> > 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
> > >> >
> > >> > The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> > >> > [2]
> > http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> > >> > [3]
> > http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> > >> > [4]
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Best Regards！
> > >> > Huxing
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Best Regards！
> > >> Huxing
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards！
> > Huxing
> >



--
Best Regards！
Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by kimm king <ki...@gmail.com>.

Of course, dubbo-dotnet is also need to transfer.

Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月26日周五 下午5:56写道：

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:50 PM kimm king <ki...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I will transfer jms-for-apache-dubbo rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> awesome-dubbo to ASF before the end of May.
>
> There is a pull request to merge rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo into
> incubator-dubbo, so I think there is no need to transfer.
> What about dubbo-dotnet project?
>
>
> >
> > Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月26日周五 下午4:01写道：
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> > As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
> >> > the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To
> avoid
> >> > it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> >> > plan.
> >> >
> >> > For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> >> > 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
> >> > keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
> >> > it in the future.
> >> >
> >> > I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may
> think.
> >> >
> >> > The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
> >> > of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> >> > related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> >> > section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
> >> > local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
> >> >
> >> > I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> >> > dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > For the long-term plan:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
> >> > be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
> >> > most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> >> > project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
> >> >
> >> > This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
> >> >
> >> > * js-for-apache-dubbo
> >> > * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> >> > * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> >> > * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> >> > * go-for-apache-dubbo
> >> > * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> >> > * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> >> > * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> >> > * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> >> > * dubbo.github.io
> >> > * metrics
> >> > * hessian-lite
> >> > * dubbo-sentinel-support
> >> > * awesome-dubbo
> >> > * dubbo-remoting-js
> >> > * egg-dubbo-rpc
> >> > * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> >> > * intellij-idea-plugin
> >> > * initializr
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
> >> >
> >> > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> >> > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish
> transfer.
> >> > What you will need to do includes:
> >> > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> >> > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> >> > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> >> > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> >> > 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
> >> >
> >> > 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
> >> >
> >> > If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> >> > access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
> >> > by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> >> > the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
> >> >
> >> > 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
> >> >
> >> > The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> >> > [2]
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> >> > [3]
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> >> > [4]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Best Regards！
> >> > Huxing
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best Regards！
> >> Huxing
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org>.

Hi,

On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:50 PM kimm king <ki...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I will transfer jms-for-apache-dubbo rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo awesome-dubbo to ASF before the end of May.

There is a pull request to merge rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo into
incubator-dubbo, so I think there is no need to transfer.
What about dubbo-dotnet project?


>
> Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月26日周五 下午4:01写道：
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
>> > the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To avoid
>> > it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
>> > plan.
>> >
>> > For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
>> >
>> > 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
>> > 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
>> > keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
>> > it in the future.
>> >
>> > I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.
>> >
>> > The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
>> > of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
>> > related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
>> > section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
>> > local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
>> >
>> > I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
>> > dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
>> >
>> >
>> > For the long-term plan:
>> >
>> > 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
>> > be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
>> > most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
>> > project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
>> >
>> > This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
>> >
>> > * js-for-apache-dubbo
>> > * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
>> > * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
>> > * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
>> > * go-for-apache-dubbo
>> > * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
>> > * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
>> > * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
>> > * jms-for-apache-dubbo
>> > * dubbo.github.io
>> > * metrics
>> > * hessian-lite
>> > * dubbo-sentinel-support
>> > * awesome-dubbo
>> > * dubbo-remoting-js
>> > * egg-dubbo-rpc
>> > * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
>> > * intellij-idea-plugin
>> > * initializr
>> >
>> >
>> > If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
>> >
>> > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
>> > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
>> > What you will need to do includes:
>> > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
>> > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
>> > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
>> > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
>> > 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
>> >
>> > 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
>> >
>> > If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
>> > access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
>> > by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
>> > the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
>> >
>> > 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
>> >
>> > The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
>> >
>> >
>> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
>> > [2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
>> > [3] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
>> > [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best Regards！
>> > Huxing
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards！
>> Huxing



--
Best Regards！
Huxing

Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by kimm king <ki...@gmail.com>.

I will transfer jms-for-apache-dubbo rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
awesome-dubbo to ASF before the end of May.

Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> 于2019年4月26日周五 下午4:01写道：

> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
> > the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To avoid
> > it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
> > plan.
> >
> > For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
> >
> > 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
> > 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
> > keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
> > it in the future.
> >
> > I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.
> >
> > The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
> > of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
> > related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
> > section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
> > local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
> >
> > I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
> > dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
> >
> >
> > For the long-term plan:
> >
> > 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
> > be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
> > most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
> > project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
> >
> > This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
> >
> > * js-for-apache-dubbo
> > * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
> > * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
> > * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
> > * go-for-apache-dubbo
> > * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
> > * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
> > * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
> > * jms-for-apache-dubbo
> > * dubbo.github.io
> > * metrics
> > * hessian-lite
> > * dubbo-sentinel-support
> > * awesome-dubbo
> > * dubbo-remoting-js
> > * egg-dubbo-rpc
> > * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
> > * intellij-idea-plugin
> > * initializr
> >
> >
> > If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
> >
> > 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
> > 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish
> transfer.
> > What you will need to do includes:
> > - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
> > ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
> > - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
> > - request ASF infra to transfer the project
> > 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
> >
> > 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
> >
> > If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
> > access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
> > by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
> > the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
> >
> > 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
> >
> > The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
> >
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
> > [2]
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
> > [3]
> http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
> > [4]
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best Regards！
> > Huxing
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards！
> Huxing
>

Re:Re:Re: [DISCUSS] Migrating projects under dubbo group

Posted by Peter <gx...@126.com>.


I am the owner of egg-dubbo-rpc & dubbo-remoting-js.


After discussion with our team members, we decide to transfer the two projects back to eggjs(https://github.com/eggjs) group，and I will finish it by this weekend

thanks a lot




At 2019-04-26 11:04:28, "Peter" <gx...@126.com> wrote:



I am the owner of egg-dubbo-rpc & dubbo-remoting-js.


After discussion with our team members, we decide to transfer the two projects back to eggjs(https://github.com/eggjs) group.

thanks a lot




At 2019-04-26 10:52:03, "Huxing Zhang" <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Huxing Zhang <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> As is discussed in the graduation proposal in general@ mailing list,
>> the github.com/dubbo group has some potential branding issue. To avoid
>> it completely, we need to decide the short-term plan and long-term
>> plan.
>>
>> For the short-term plan, there are two way proposed:
>>
>> 1. Rename dubbo group to another one, let's say A.
>> 2. Create a new group A, and migrate all the project to under A, and
>> keep the dubbo group empty. The purpose is to avoid someone to abuse
>> it in the future.
>>
>> I am leaning towards option 2. But I'd like to hear what other may think.
>>
>> The next step is to decide what A is.  Actually naming a thing is one
>> of the most difficult thing to do... I am trying to find something
>> related. I checked the wikipedia page for Dubbo[1], in the history
>> section, it says  Dubbo is now thought to be a mispronunciation of the
>> local Wiradjuri word "Thubbo" or "Tubbo".
>>
>> I think thubbo and tubbo both are good. thubbo is more different to
>> dubbo than tubbo. So I prefer thubbo. How do you think?
>>
>>
>> For the long-term plan:
>>
>> 1. Like discussed before, all projects under group A are expected to
>> be transferred to Apache (if the owner) agree with an ETA. I talked to
>> most of the owners and they basically agree, the multi-language
>> project are TODOs. I am trying to pull them onto list.
>>
>> This projects that still listed under dubbo group includes:
>>
>> * js-for-apache-dubbo
>> * py-client-for-apache-dubbo
>> * rpc-xmlrpc-for-apache-dubbo
>> * jmeter-plugins-for-apache-dubbo
>> * go-for-apache-dubbo
>> * php-framework-for-apache-dubbo
>> * dotnet-for-apache-dubbo
>> * serialization-native-hessian-for-apache-dubbo
>> * jms-for-apache-dubbo
>> * dubbo.github.io
>> * metrics
>> * hessian-lite
>> * dubbo-sentinel-support
>> * awesome-dubbo
>> * dubbo-remoting-js
>> * egg-dubbo-rpc
>> * rpc-native-thrift-for-apache-dubbo
>> * intellij-idea-plugin
>> * initializr
>>
>>
>> If you are the project owner, could you please confirm that:
>>
>> 1) are you willing to transferred to ASF or not.
>> 2) if so, please give an estimated time when will you can finish transfer.
>> What you will need to do includes:
>> - Find the all the contributors and ask them to sign the Apache
>> ICLA[2], if the contribution is trivial, this can be ignore
>> - If the code belongs to your company, you need to sign the SGA[3]
>> - request ASF infra to transfer the project
>> 3) if not, please indicate that which group you will transfer to.
>>
>> 2. Gain write access to your project after transfer
>>
>> If your project has been transferred to ASF, you will lose write
>> access temporally. The Dubbo community will vote you in as committer
>> by following standard ASF way. This means you have to contribute to
>> the project for some time in order to earn enough merit.
>>
>> 3. After the transition is done, delete group A.
>>
>> The community will summarize and keep track of the status here[4].
>>
>>
>> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubbo
>> [2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/cla-signing-guide_dev.html
>> [3] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/docs/developers/contributor-guide/software-donation-guide_dev.html
>> [4] https://github.com/apache/incubator-dubbo/wiki/Apache-Dubbo-external-ecosystem-status
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards！
>> Huxing
>
>
>
>-- 
>Best Regards！
>Huxing