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[very OT] group conventions for people use testng?
hey guys, just wondering. if you use testng how do you normally
structure your groups? Do you always specific a group for unit tests or
do you not?
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Re: [very OT] group conventions for people use testng?
Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
Yeah,
I think someone else wanted to make an attempt at the maven2 support
but kind of let the ball drop. I've said I'll bring it back up to the
right version, have just been wrestling with not having a core
computer for the last week or so to work on. (I do now)
And yes, the IDEA TestNG plugin is much much better than the eclipse
version. It's too bad the maven2 plugin is a p.o.s. .. :/
On 2/1/07, Patrick Moore <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> I wanted to ask about this .... also.
>
> Howard,
>
> I know that you have a version of the surefire plugin that can run testNG
> 5.1 tests but the testNG version is now up to 5.4 and the "official" version
> of the surefire plugin seems to be languishing with testNG 4.7. Does anyone
> know what is going on with maven2/surefire-support for TestNG?
>
> -Pat
>
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Re: [very OT] group conventions for people use testng?
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
I believe Jesse put together the 2.8-SNAPSHOT version of the plugin
that we're using.
On 2/1/07, Patrick Moore <tr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> I wanted to ask about this .... also.
>
> Howard,
>
> I know that you have a version of the surefire plugin that can run testNG
> 5.1 tests but the testNG version is now up to 5.4 and the "official" version
> of the surefire plugin seems to be languishing with testNG 4.7. Does anyone
> know what is going on with maven2/surefire-support for TestNG?
>
> -Pat
>
>
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Creator, Apache HiveMind
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Re: [very OT] group conventions for people use testng?
Posted by Patrick Moore <tr...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dan,
I wanted to ask about this .... also.
Howard,
I know that you have a version of the surefire plugin that can run testNG
5.1 tests but the testNG version is now up to 5.4 and the "official" version
of the surefire plugin seems to be languishing with testNG 4.7. Does anyone
know what is going on with maven2/surefire-support for TestNG?
-Pat
Re: [very OT] group conventions for people use testng?
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
In IDEA, you can supply "test runner options" to TestNG. I would
imagine that the eclipse plugin has something similar, but I have not
used it.
On 2/1/07, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I meant from inside Eclipse, or as specified in testng.xml.
>
> I haven't upgraded my version of the plugin, perhaps this is a feature
> they've added. I also want to see if parallel works properly in a more
> recent version.
>
> On 2/1/07, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Have you tried -excludegroups <comma-separated list of group names>?
> > I think that works.
> >
> > On 2/1/07, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I really only structure things in two ways: fast vs. slow, aka default
> > > vs. integration.
> > >
> > > I think if I was building an application, I may add additional groups
> > > to cover tests that need special setup to run (assuming I couldn't do
> > > that myself).
> > >
> > > I wish TestNG had an option to exclude named groups from a run, and
> > > run everything else (including those outside a group). T5 core now
> > > has 689 tests and takes nearly a minute to run. On the other hand,
> > > most of that time is spent inside integration tests and without those
> > > I don't really trust that the framework operates correctly so there's
> > > no way to win!
> > >
> > > On 2/1/07, Dan Adams <da...@ifactory.com> wrote:
> > > > hey guys, just wondering. if you use testng how do you normally
> > > > structure your groups? Do you always specific a group for unit tests or
> > > > do you not?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dan Adams
> > > > Senior Software Engineer
> > > > Interactive Factory
> > > > 617.235.5857
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
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> > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > > TWD Consulting, Inc.
> > > Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
> > > Creator and PMC Chair, Apache Tapestry
> > > Creator, Apache HiveMind
> > >
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> Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
> Creator and PMC Chair, Apache Tapestry
> Creator, Apache HiveMind
>
> Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support
> and project work. http://howardlewisship.com
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Re: [very OT] group conventions for people use testng?
Posted by Dan Adams <da...@ifactory.com>.
In the testng.xml you can exclude groups:
<test name="Regression1">
<groups>
<exclude name="brokenTests" />
<include name="checkinTests" />
</run>
</groups>
...
and in eclipse you create a test runner to run a specified testng.xml file. So you could create an xml with only your unit tests.
This is also the reason I asked because I wanted to know if other people tagged all their unit tests with a "unit" group or something so that they could easily run them by group without having to use exclusions.
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 11:37 -0800, Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> I meant from inside Eclipse, or as specified in testng.xml.
>
> I haven't upgraded my version of the plugin, perhaps this is a feature
> they've added. I also want to see if parallel works properly in a more
> recent version.
>
> On 2/1/07, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Have you tried -excludegroups <comma-separated list of group names>?
> > I think that works.
> >
> > On 2/1/07, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I really only structure things in two ways: fast vs. slow, aka default
> > > vs. integration.
> > >
> > > I think if I was building an application, I may add additional groups
> > > to cover tests that need special setup to run (assuming I couldn't do
> > > that myself).
> > >
> > > I wish TestNG had an option to exclude named groups from a run, and
> > > run everything else (including those outside a group). T5 core now
> > > has 689 tests and takes nearly a minute to run. On the other hand,
> > > most of that time is spent inside integration tests and without those
> > > I don't really trust that the framework operates correctly so there's
> > > no way to win!
> > >
> > > On 2/1/07, Dan Adams <da...@ifactory.com> wrote:
> > > > hey guys, just wondering. if you use testng how do you normally
> > > > structure your groups? Do you always specific a group for unit tests or
> > > > do you not?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dan Adams
> > > > Senior Software Engineer
> > > > Interactive Factory
> > > > 617.235.5857
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > > TWD Consulting, Inc.
> > > Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
> > > Creator and PMC Chair, Apache Tapestry
> > > Creator, Apache HiveMind
> > >
> > > Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support
> > > and project work. http://howardlewisship.com
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>
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Re: [very OT] group conventions for people use testng?
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
I meant from inside Eclipse, or as specified in testng.xml.
I haven't upgraded my version of the plugin, perhaps this is a feature
they've added. I also want to see if parallel works properly in a more
recent version.
On 2/1/07, James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com> wrote:
> Have you tried -excludegroups <comma-separated list of group names>?
> I think that works.
>
> On 2/1/07, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I really only structure things in two ways: fast vs. slow, aka default
> > vs. integration.
> >
> > I think if I was building an application, I may add additional groups
> > to cover tests that need special setup to run (assuming I couldn't do
> > that myself).
> >
> > I wish TestNG had an option to exclude named groups from a run, and
> > run everything else (including those outside a group). T5 core now
> > has 689 tests and takes nearly a minute to run. On the other hand,
> > most of that time is spent inside integration tests and without those
> > I don't really trust that the framework operates correctly so there's
> > no way to win!
> >
> > On 2/1/07, Dan Adams <da...@ifactory.com> wrote:
> > > hey guys, just wondering. if you use testng how do you normally
> > > structure your groups? Do you always specific a group for unit tests or
> > > do you not?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dan Adams
> > > Senior Software Engineer
> > > Interactive Factory
> > > 617.235.5857
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > TWD Consulting, Inc.
> > Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
> > Creator and PMC Chair, Apache Tapestry
> > Creator, Apache HiveMind
> >
> > Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support
> > and project work. http://howardlewisship.com
> >
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> >
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Creator and PMC Chair, Apache Tapestry
Creator, Apache HiveMind
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Re: [very OT] group conventions for people use testng?
Posted by James Carman <ja...@carmanconsulting.com>.
Have you tried -excludegroups <comma-separated list of group names>?
I think that works.
On 2/1/07, Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I really only structure things in two ways: fast vs. slow, aka default
> vs. integration.
>
> I think if I was building an application, I may add additional groups
> to cover tests that need special setup to run (assuming I couldn't do
> that myself).
>
> I wish TestNG had an option to exclude named groups from a run, and
> run everything else (including those outside a group). T5 core now
> has 689 tests and takes nearly a minute to run. On the other hand,
> most of that time is spent inside integration tests and without those
> I don't really trust that the framework operates correctly so there's
> no way to win!
>
> On 2/1/07, Dan Adams <da...@ifactory.com> wrote:
> > hey guys, just wondering. if you use testng how do you normally
> > structure your groups? Do you always specific a group for unit tests or
> > do you not?
> >
> > --
> > Dan Adams
> > Senior Software Engineer
> > Interactive Factory
> > 617.235.5857
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> TWD Consulting, Inc.
> Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
> Creator and PMC Chair, Apache Tapestry
> Creator, Apache HiveMind
>
> Professional Tapestry training, mentoring, support
> and project work. http://howardlewisship.com
>
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Re: [very OT] group conventions for people use testng?
Posted by Howard Lewis Ship <hl...@gmail.com>.
I really only structure things in two ways: fast vs. slow, aka default
vs. integration.
I think if I was building an application, I may add additional groups
to cover tests that need special setup to run (assuming I couldn't do
that myself).
I wish TestNG had an option to exclude named groups from a run, and
run everything else (including those outside a group). T5 core now
has 689 tests and takes nearly a minute to run. On the other hand,
most of that time is spent inside integration tests and without those
I don't really trust that the framework operates correctly so there's
no way to win!
On 2/1/07, Dan Adams <da...@ifactory.com> wrote:
> hey guys, just wondering. if you use testng how do you normally
> structure your groups? Do you always specific a group for unit tests or
> do you not?
>
> --
> Dan Adams
> Senior Software Engineer
> Interactive Factory
> 617.235.5857
>
>
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TWD Consulting, Inc.
Independent J2EE / Open-Source Java Consultant
Creator and PMC Chair, Apache Tapestry
Creator, Apache HiveMind
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and project work. http://howardlewisship.com
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