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Posted to j-users@xerces.apache.org by Michael Glavassevich <mr...@ca.ibm.com> on 2009/08/17 18:15:24 UTC
Re: Create dynamicly XML From XSD
Hello,
I think what you're asking for is provided by the DOM Level 3 Validation
[1] spec. Xerces doesn't have such capability built into it. You would need
to write a lot of code yourself in order to accomplish what you're trying
to do.
Thanks.
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-DOM-Level-3-Val-20040127/
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
juho <j....@gmail.com> wrote on 08/17/2009 10:33:35 AM:
>
> Hello,
>
> My problem is i have to create an UI (a JTree) to create/load XML file
from
> XSD.
> On start, the UI should create athe minimlist XML from Mandatory elements
> ansd attributes
> and cross(+) in Jtree Model permits to add element or attributes.
>
> I found in first an library to parse XSD, name XSOM, and for each DOM
> element i have an Element wrapper with himself and an element descriptor
> with availables sub-elements, attributes ...
>
> After make research to evoluate my product, i learnt about PSVI which are
> affected directly to the element.
> But if i understand correctly, they are affected after validation, it
should
> work when i load XMl files but when i create XML DOM what i need its to
have
> PSVI from father to know what child i can add.
>
> If i choose to change from XSOM to Xerces it's to use the Validation on
> Element to add dynamic errors for users when they add an element or an
> value, if it is valid from XSD.
>
> If someone could give me an idea on how i can do that with Xerces,
> Thanks in advance.
>
> P.S: Sorry for possible syntax errors, i'm french and not really good in
> english.
> --
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> dynamicly-XML-From-XSD-tp25007854p25007854.html
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Re: Create dynamicly XML From XSD
Posted by Michael Glavassevich <mr...@ca.ibm.com>.
Hi Uwe,
The development focus these days is on XML Schema 1.1. There's been no
discussion on what might follow that though still haven't heard much
interest from the community in an implementation of DOM Level 3 Validation
in Xerces. Here's a link [1] to what I said last year when this same
question was asked. Volunteers with an interest in seeing this happen are
certainly welcome.
Thanks.
[1] http://markmail.org/message/yvfexcjxrzwg5bu4
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
q3s38w002@sneakemail.com wrote on 08/27/2009 06:54:03 PM:
> Any plans of implementing DOM Level 3 Validation at some point? I
> have a similar project on the go, and L3V would greatly speed up things.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Uwe
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Michael Glavassevich
mrglavas-at-ca.ibm.com|
> xerces.apache.org| <...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Have you looked at the specification that I pointed you to? DOM
> Level 3 Validation is an API for guided editing of a DOM. It allows
> you to ask questions like "what would the schema allow me to insert
> here?". I believe that's what you were asking for [1]. Xerces
> doesn't have support for this.
>
> You can ask Xerces to validate the DOM and annotate it with PSVI,
> but I'm sure you already knew that.
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1] "... when i create XML DOM what i need its to have PSVI from
> father to know what child i can add."
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
>
> juho <j....@gmail.com> wrote on 08/18/2009 03:43:36 AM:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just want to be sure i understood well, because i saw Xerces have
version
> > with DOM3 supports, but you say i do not implements DOM3 validation for
the
> > moment ? is it exact?
> >
> > If it is, i will try to keep my solutions and use JAXP Validation on
runtime
> > to check if for each Dom modification, document stay valid.
> > My actual development is heavy, because i uqse JDom so i write XML on
temp
> > file and load it to validate him.
> > Next, if it is valid i wrote him in final, else i inform from erros.
But i
> > hope i can use Dom Validation in place of File load validation.
> >
> > Thanks for your time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael Glavassevich-3 wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I think what you're asking for is provided by the DOM Level 3
Validation
> > > [1] spec. Xerces doesn't have such capability built into it. You
would
> > > need
> > > to write a lot of code yourself in order to accomplish what you're
trying
> > > to do.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-DOM-Level-3-Val-20040127/
> > >
> > > Michael Glavassevich
> > > XML Parser Development
> > > IBM Toronto Lab
> > > E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> > > E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
> > >
> > > juho <j....@gmail.com> wrote on 08/17/2009 10:33:35 AM:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> My problem is i have to create an UI (a JTree) to create/load XML
file
> > > from
> > >> XSD.
> > >> On start, the UI should create athe minimlist XML from Mandatory
elements
> > >> ansd attributes
> > >> and cross(+) in Jtree Model permits to add element or attributes.
> > >>
> > >> I found in first an library to parse XSD, name XSOM, and for each
DOM
> > >> element i have an Element wrapper with himself and an element
descriptor
> > >> with availables sub-elements, attributes ...
> > >>
> > >> After make research to evoluate my product, i learnt about PSVIwhich
are
> > >> affected directly to the element.
> > >> But if i understand correctly, they are affected after validation,
it
> > > should
> > >> work when i load XMl files but when i create XML DOM what i need its
to
> > > have
> > >> PSVI from father to know what child i can add.
> > >>
> > >> If i choose to change from XSOM to Xerces it's to use the Validation
on
> > >> Element to add dynamic errors for users when they add an element or
an
> > >> value, if it is valid from XSD.
> > >>
> > >> If someone could give me an idea on how i can do that with Xerces,
> > >> Thanks in advance.
> > >>
> > >> P.S: Sorry for possible syntax errors, i'm french and not really
good in
> > >> english.
> > >> --
> > >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Create-
> > >> dynamicly-XML-From-XSD-tp25007854p25007854.html
> > >> Sent from the Xerces - J - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: Create dynamicly XML From XSD
Posted by q3...@sneakemail.com.
Any plans of implementing DOM Level 3 Validation at some point? I have a
similar project on the go, and L3V would greatly speed up things.
Cheers,
Uwe
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Michael Glavassevich mrglavas-at-ca.ibm.com|
xerces.apache.org| <...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Have you looked at the specification that I pointed you to? DOM Level 3
> Validation is an API for guided editing of a DOM. It allows you to ask
> questions like "what would the schema allow me to insert here?". I believe
> that's what you were asking for [1]. Xerces doesn't have support for this.
>
> You can ask Xerces to validate the DOM and annotate it with PSVI, but I'm
> sure you already knew that.
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1] "... when i create XML DOM what i need its to have PSVI from father to
> know what child i can add."
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
>
> juho <j....@gmail.com> wrote on 08/18/2009 03:43:36 AM:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just want to be sure i understood well, because i saw Xerces have
> version
> > with DOM3 supports, but you say i do not implements DOM3 validation for
> the
> > moment ? is it exact?
> >
> > If it is, i will try to keep my solutions and use JAXP Validation on
> runtime
> > to check if for each Dom modification, document stay valid.
> > My actual development is heavy, because i uqse JDom so i write XML on
> temp
> > file and load it to validate him.
> > Next, if it is valid i wrote him in final, else i inform from erros. But
> i
> > hope i can use Dom Validation in place of File load validation.
> >
> > Thanks for your time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael Glavassevich-3 wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I think what you're asking for is provided by the DOM Level 3
> Validation
> > > [1] spec. Xerces doesn't have such capability built into it. You would
> > > need
> > > to write a lot of code yourself in order to accomplish what you're
> trying
> > > to do.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-DOM-Level-3-Val-20040127/
> > >
> > > Michael Glavassevich
> > > XML Parser Development
> > > IBM Toronto Lab
> > > E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> > > E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
> > >
> > > juho <j....@gmail.com> wrote on 08/17/2009 10:33:35 AM:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hello,
> > >>
> > >> My problem is i have to create an UI (a JTree) to create/load XML file
> > > from
> > >> XSD.
> > >> On start, the UI should create athe minimlist XML from Mandatory
> elements
> > >> ansd attributes
> > >> and cross(+) in Jtree Model permits to add element or attributes.
> > >>
> > >> I found in first an library to parse XSD, name XSOM, and for each DOM
> > >> element i have an Element wrapper with himself and an element
> descriptor
> > >> with availables sub-elements, attributes ...
> > >>
> > >> After make research to evoluate my product, i learnt about PSVI which
> are
> > >> affected directly to the element.
> > >> But if i understand correctly, they are affected after validation, it
> > > should
> > >> work when i load XMl files but when i create XML DOM what i need its
> to
> > > have
> > >> PSVI from father to know what child i can add.
> > >>
> > >> If i choose to change from XSOM to Xerces it's to use the Validation
> on
> > >> Element to add dynamic errors for users when they add an element or an
> > >> value, if it is valid from XSD.
> > >>
> > >> If someone could give me an idea on how i can do that with Xerces,
> > >> Thanks in advance.
> > >>
> > >> P.S: Sorry for possible syntax errors, i'm french and not really good
> in
> > >> english.
> > >> --
> > >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Create-
> > >> dynamicly-XML-From-XSD-tp25007854p25007854.html
> > >> Sent from the Xerces - J - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: Create dynamicly XML From XSD
Posted by Michael Glavassevich <mr...@ca.ibm.com>.
Hi,
Have you looked at the specification that I pointed you to? DOM Level 3
Validation is an API for guided editing of a DOM. It allows you to ask
questions like "what would the schema allow me to insert here?". I believe
that's what you were asking for [1]. Xerces doesn't have support for this.
You can ask Xerces to validate the DOM and annotate it with PSVI, but I'm
sure you already knew that.
Thanks.
[1] "... when i create XML DOM what i need its to have PSVI from father to
know what child i can add."
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
juho <j....@gmail.com> wrote on 08/18/2009 03:43:36 AM:
> Hi,
>
> I just want to be sure i understood well, because i saw Xerces have
version
> with DOM3 supports, but you say i do not implements DOM3 validation for
the
> moment ? is it exact?
>
> If it is, i will try to keep my solutions and use JAXP Validation on
runtime
> to check if for each Dom modification, document stay valid.
> My actual development is heavy, because i uqse JDom so i write XML on
temp
> file and load it to validate him.
> Next, if it is valid i wrote him in final, else i inform from erros. But
i
> hope i can use Dom Validation in place of File load validation.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
>
>
> Michael Glavassevich-3 wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I think what you're asking for is provided by the DOM Level 3
Validation
> > [1] spec. Xerces doesn't have such capability built into it. You would
> > need
> > to write a lot of code yourself in order to accomplish what you're
trying
> > to do.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-DOM-Level-3-Val-20040127/
> >
> > Michael Glavassevich
> > XML Parser Development
> > IBM Toronto Lab
> > E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> > E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
> >
> > juho <j....@gmail.com> wrote on 08/17/2009 10:33:35 AM:
> >
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> My problem is i have to create an UI (a JTree) to create/load XML file
> > from
> >> XSD.
> >> On start, the UI should create athe minimlist XML from Mandatory
elements
> >> ansd attributes
> >> and cross(+) in Jtree Model permits to add element or attributes.
> >>
> >> I found in first an library to parse XSD, name XSOM, and for each DOM
> >> element i have an Element wrapper with himself and an element
descriptor
> >> with availables sub-elements, attributes ...
> >>
> >> After make research to evoluate my product, i learnt about PSVI which
are
> >> affected directly to the element.
> >> But if i understand correctly, they are affected after validation, it
> > should
> >> work when i load XMl files but when i create XML DOM what i need its
to
> > have
> >> PSVI from father to know what child i can add.
> >>
> >> If i choose to change from XSOM to Xerces it's to use the Validation
on
> >> Element to add dynamic errors for users when they add an element or an
> >> value, if it is valid from XSD.
> >>
> >> If someone could give me an idea on how i can do that with Xerces,
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> P.S: Sorry for possible syntax errors, i'm french and not really good
in
> >> english.
> >> --
> >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Create-
> >> dynamicly-XML-From-XSD-tp25007854p25007854.html
> >> Sent from the Xerces - J - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>
> >>
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> >
>
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Re: Create dynamicly XML From XSD
Posted by Michael Glavassevich <mr...@ca.ibm.com>.
Hi,
Have you looked at the specification that I pointed you to? DOM Level 3
Validation is an API for guided editing of a DOM. It allows you to ask
questions like "what would the schema allow me to insert here?". I believe
that's what you were asking for [1]. Xerces doesn't have support for this.
You can ask Xerces to validate the DOM and annotate it with PSVI, but I'm
sure you already knew that.
Thanks.
[1] "... when i create XML DOM what i need its to have PSVI from father to
know what child i can add."
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
juho <j....@gmail.com> wrote on 08/18/2009 03:43:36 AM:
> Hi,
>
> I just want to be sure i understood well, because i saw Xerces have
version
> with DOM3 supports, but you say i do not implements DOM3 validation for
the
> moment ? is it exact?
>
> If it is, i will try to keep my solutions and use JAXP Validation on
runtime
> to check if for each Dom modification, document stay valid.
> My actual development is heavy, because i uqse JDom so i write XML on
temp
> file and load it to validate him.
> Next, if it is valid i wrote him in final, else i inform from erros. But
i
> hope i can use Dom Validation in place of File load validation.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
>
>
> Michael Glavassevich-3 wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I think what you're asking for is provided by the DOM Level 3
Validation
> > [1] spec. Xerces doesn't have such capability built into it. You would
> > need
> > to write a lot of code yourself in order to accomplish what you're
trying
> > to do.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-DOM-Level-3-Val-20040127/
> >
> > Michael Glavassevich
> > XML Parser Development
> > IBM Toronto Lab
> > E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> > E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
> >
> > juho <j....@gmail.com> wrote on 08/17/2009 10:33:35 AM:
> >
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> My problem is i have to create an UI (a JTree) to create/load XML file
> > from
> >> XSD.
> >> On start, the UI should create athe minimlist XML from Mandatory
elements
> >> ansd attributes
> >> and cross(+) in Jtree Model permits to add element or attributes.
> >>
> >> I found in first an library to parse XSD, name XSOM, and for each DOM
> >> element i have an Element wrapper with himself and an element
descriptor
> >> with availables sub-elements, attributes ...
> >>
> >> After make research to evoluate my product, i learnt about PSVI which
are
> >> affected directly to the element.
> >> But if i understand correctly, they are affected after validation, it
> > should
> >> work when i load XMl files but when i create XML DOM what i need its
to
> > have
> >> PSVI from father to know what child i can add.
> >>
> >> If i choose to change from XSOM to Xerces it's to use the Validation
on
> >> Element to add dynamic errors for users when they add an element or an
> >> value, if it is valid from XSD.
> >>
> >> If someone could give me an idea on how i can do that with Xerces,
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> P.S: Sorry for possible syntax errors, i'm french and not really good
in
> >> english.
> >> --
> >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Create-
> >> dynamicly-XML-From-XSD-tp25007854p25007854.html
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> >>
> >>
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Re: Create dynamicly XML From XSD
Posted by juho <j....@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I just want to be sure i understood well, because i saw Xerces have version
with DOM3 supports, but you say i do not implements DOM3 validation for the
moment ? is it exact?
If it is, i will try to keep my solutions and use JAXP Validation on runtime
to check if for each Dom modification, document stay valid.
My actual development is heavy, because i uqse JDom so i write XML on temp
file and load it to validate him.
Next, if it is valid i wrote him in final, else i inform from erros. But i
hope i can use Dom Validation in place of File load validation.
Thanks for your time.
Michael Glavassevich-3 wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I think what you're asking for is provided by the DOM Level 3 Validation
> [1] spec. Xerces doesn't have such capability built into it. You would
> need
> to write a lot of code yourself in order to accomplish what you're trying
> to do.
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/REC-DOM-Level-3-Val-20040127/
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
>
> juho <j....@gmail.com> wrote on 08/17/2009 10:33:35 AM:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> My problem is i have to create an UI (a JTree) to create/load XML file
> from
>> XSD.
>> On start, the UI should create athe minimlist XML from Mandatory elements
>> ansd attributes
>> and cross(+) in Jtree Model permits to add element or attributes.
>>
>> I found in first an library to parse XSD, name XSOM, and for each DOM
>> element i have an Element wrapper with himself and an element descriptor
>> with availables sub-elements, attributes ...
>>
>> After make research to evoluate my product, i learnt about PSVI which are
>> affected directly to the element.
>> But if i understand correctly, they are affected after validation, it
> should
>> work when i load XMl files but when i create XML DOM what i need its to
> have
>> PSVI from father to know what child i can add.
>>
>> If i choose to change from XSOM to Xerces it's to use the Validation on
>> Element to add dynamic errors for users when they add an element or an
>> value, if it is valid from XSD.
>>
>> If someone could give me an idea on how i can do that with Xerces,
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> P.S: Sorry for possible syntax errors, i'm french and not really good in
>> english.
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Create-
>> dynamicly-XML-From-XSD-tp25007854p25007854.html
>> Sent from the Xerces - J - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
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