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Posted to marketing@cloudstack.apache.org by ilya <il...@gmail.com> on 2016/02/10 23:10:53 UTC
RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud-Report.pdf
My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7%
margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less
And some fairly large sized CCP customers failed to participate in this
survey.
With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing
REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone
involved in ACS community and beyond!
Regards
ilya
Re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Posted by Erik Weber <te...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:10 PM, ilya <il...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
>
>
> http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud-Report.pdf
>
>
>
I think my biggest surprise is the low adoption of The Other Stack. A mere
6% difference isn't that much considering the amount of marketing and hype
it receives.
For 2016, and more importantly 2017, I expect bigger competition from
Microsoft Azure Stack which is due to hit the market in second half of 2016.
--
Erik
Re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Posted by Madan Ganesh Velayudham <ma...@actonmagic.com>.
Agreed :) Couple of key observations is:
- CloudStack gaining traction in the SMB segment because "Cloudstack
just works!"; SMB won't have enough budget to pool in SI to setup Openstack
and etc.
- On enterprise (433 respondents) front, Cloudstack lost two points
- On SMB front (627 respondents), Cloudstack gained one point.
Goodoos to ACS!
Cheers,
Madan
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM Pierre-Luc Dion <pd...@cloudops.com> wrote:
> whoa! CloudStack is really not in a bad shape considering the size of our
> community and marketing budget.
>
> Thanks Ilya!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral <
> kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ilya.
>>
>> I agree that ACS is doing well considering the relative lack of
>> contribution compared to OpenStack. CloudStack is much simpler and 'just
>> works' without requiring a massive engineering effort.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kristoffer Sheather
>> CloudCentral
>>
>> Mobile: +61 475 048 864 | Switch: +61 2 6160 7624 | Email:
>> kris@cloudcentral.com.au
>> LinkedIn: [image: View Kristoffer Sheather's profile on LinkedIn]
>> <http://au.linkedin.com/in/kristoffersheather> | Skype:
>> kristoffer.sheather | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kristofferjon
>> [image: CloudCentral - Secure Australian Cloud]
>> <http://www.cloudcentral.com.au/?utm_source=default-signature&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=cloudcentral>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From*: "ilya" <il...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent*: Thursday, February 11, 2016 9:11 AM
>> *To*: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>> *Subject*: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
>>
>> Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
>>
>>
>> http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud-Report.pdf
>>
>>
>> My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7%
>> margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
>> 1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
>> 2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
>> 3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less
>> And some fairly large sized CCP customers failed to participate in this
>> survey.
>>
>> With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing
>> REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone
>> involved in ACS community and beyond!
>>
>> Regards
>> ilya
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
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Founder & CEO
ActOnMagic
*Data-Driven Hybrid Cloud Management Delivered! *
*www.actoncloud.com <http://www.actoncloud.com>*
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Re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Posted by Pierre-Luc Dion <pd...@cloudops.com>.
whoa! CloudStack is really not in a bad shape considering the size of our
community and marketing budget.
Thanks Ilya!
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral <
kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au> wrote:
> Thanks Ilya.
>
> I agree that ACS is doing well considering the relative lack of
> contribution compared to OpenStack. CloudStack is much simpler and 'just
> works' without requiring a massive engineering effort.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kristoffer Sheather
> CloudCentral
>
> Mobile: +61 475 048 864 | Switch: +61 2 6160 7624 | Email:
> kris@cloudcentral.com.au
> LinkedIn: [image: View Kristoffer Sheather's profile on LinkedIn]
> <http://au.linkedin.com/in/kristoffersheather> | Skype:
> kristoffer.sheather | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kristofferjon
> [image: CloudCentral - Secure Australian Cloud]
> <http://www.cloudcentral.com.au/?utm_source=default-signature&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=cloudcentral>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From*: "ilya" <il...@gmail.com>
> *Sent*: Thursday, February 11, 2016 9:11 AM
> *To*: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> *Subject*: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
>
> Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
>
>
> http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud-Report.pdf
>
>
> My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7%
> margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
> 1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
> 2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
> 3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less
> And some fairly large sized CCP customers failed to participate in this
> survey.
>
> With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing
> REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone
> involved in ACS community and beyond!
>
> Regards
> ilya
>
>
>
>
>
re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Posted by "Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral" <kr...@cloudcentral.com.au>.
Thanks Ilya.
I agree that ACS is doing well considering the relative lack of
contribution compared to OpenStack. CloudStack is much simpler and 'just
works' without requiring a massive engineering effort.
Regards,
Kristoffer Sheather
CloudCentral
Mobile: +61 475 048 864 | Switch: +61 2 6160 7624 | Email:
kris@cloudcentral.com.au
LinkedIn: | Skype: kristoffer.sheather | Twitter:
http://twitter.com/kristofferjon
----------------------------------------
From: "ilya" <il...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 9:11 AM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud
-Report.pdf
My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7%
margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less
And some fairly large sized CCP customers failed to participate in this
survey.
With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing
REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone
involved in ACS community and beyond!
Regards
ilya
Re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Posted by sebgoa <ru...@gmail.com>.
Also according to this:
http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/153447-10-tech-skills-which-will-give-you-a-big-salary.html
a cloudstack engineer makes as much as an openstack one :)
> On Feb 12, 2016, at 6:26 AM, Raja Pullela <ra...@citrix.com> wrote:
>
> +1, hope we can get more concerted effort in talking about Cloudstack!
> BTW, few users do blog consistently… but there are lot more users, who can share their experience/case studies!
> From: Tim Mackey [mailto:tmackey@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:58 AM
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
>
> +100 to skip the hype.
>
> I've always believed touting "how we compare" is disingenuous to adopters. It assumes we aspire to be like someone else. I feel if we focus on core strengths (the what) and highlighting what people have solved by using us (the why), then people will start to draw their own comparisons.
>
> As someone who's been the face of a product the Gartner folks deem "niche" (XenServer in case readers aren't familiar) for some years, I'm happy with focusing on the niche and ensuring those who'e adopted XenServer are successful as a result of that choice. Their advocacy is worth its weight in gold, and I rather like that Apache CloudStack events have users talking openly about their successes. I feel we need to find ways to increase the reach of those user messages.
>
> -tim
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Chip Childers <ch...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 to what both Giles and Ian are saying.
>
> Skip the hype. Focus on real value being seen by users. Educate, don't confuse.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Ian Rae <ir...@cloudops.com> wrote:
> Absolutely Giles. With the Citrix exit from the community it is time for the large users and commercial supporters to reboot the effort to build an Apache CloudStack related marketing alliance. This can be done as a lean and agile effort, and is less about having a hype machine and more about sharing information with the world on key use cases, success stories, etc…. That CloudStack is the dark matter of the open source cloud computing world is of benefit to none.
>
> I realize most analysts and certainly much of the OpenStack community would prefer Apache CloudStack to remain in obscurity but in the real world it has sustainable and defensible value for use cases that OpenStack, and other vendor driven projects are unable to effectively address.
>
> CloudOps has always believed the market is not an either/or proposition. We have a responsibility to make the capabilities and key use cases widely known, especially since the Apache Foundation cannot do it. We need to work on this now.
>
> Ian
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> Ilya - I agree 100% - this is a really good testament to the quality of our software and the effort by this community
>
> Although it gauls me slightly to have to caveat everything with "despite the marketing" and "despite the committer base"
>
>
> We here all know that Cloudstack is the "invisible man" in this space. We all know its in widespread adoption but it continues to not get the attention of AN Other project
>
>
> This can be changed, but we are a user led community. It can be changed by our largescale users coming out and showing their public support for this project. We also need more vendors to relaise that Cloudstack integration is a decent route to market for their products - but that wont start until that user community starts speaking publically
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
> Giles
>
>
>
> <image002.png>
> Giles Sirett
> CEO
> ,
> ShapeBlue
> d:
> +44 20 3603 0541 | s: +44 203 603 0540
> |
> m:
> +44 7961112055
> e:
> giles.sirett@shapeblue.com | t:
> |
> w:
> www.shapeblue.com
> a:
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden London WC2N 4HS UK
> <image003.png>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ilya [mailto:ilya.mailing.lists@gmail.com]
> Sent: 10 February 2016 22:11
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
>
> Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
>
> http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud-Report.pdf
>
>
> My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7% margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
> 1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
> 2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
> 3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less And some fairly large sized CCP customers failed to participate in this survey.
>
> With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone involved in ACS community and beyond!
>
> Regards
> ilya
>
>
>
> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services:
> IaaS Cloud Design & Build | CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
> CloudStack Consulting | CloudStack Software Engineering
> CloudStack Infrastructure Support | CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
>
>
>
> --
> Ian Rae
> CEO | PDG
> c: 514.944.4008
>
> CloudOps | Cloud Infrastructure and Networking Solutions
> www.cloudops.com | 420 rue Guy | Montreal | Canada | H3J 1S6
>
>
RE: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Posted by Raja Pullela <ra...@citrix.com>.
+1, hope we can get more concerted effort in talking about Cloudstack!
BTW, few users do blog consistently… but there are lot more users, who can share their experience/case studies!
From: Tim Mackey [mailto:tmackey@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 6:58 AM
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
+100 to skip the hype.
I've always believed touting "how we compare" is disingenuous to adopters. It assumes we aspire to be like someone else. I feel if we focus on core strengths (the what) and highlighting what people have solved by using us (the why), then people will start to draw their own comparisons.
As someone who's been the face of a product the Gartner folks deem "niche" (XenServer in case readers aren't familiar) for some years, I'm happy with focusing on the niche and ensuring those who'e adopted XenServer are successful as a result of that choice. Their advocacy is worth its weight in gold, and I rather like that Apache CloudStack events have users talking openly about their successes. I feel we need to find ways to increase the reach of those user messages.
-tim
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Chip Childers <ch...@apache.org>> wrote:
+1 to what both Giles and Ian are saying.
Skip the hype. Focus on real value being seen by users. Educate, don't confuse.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Ian Rae <ir...@cloudops.com>> wrote:
Absolutely Giles. With the Citrix exit from the community it is time for the large users and commercial supporters to reboot the effort to build an Apache CloudStack related marketing alliance. This can be done as a lean and agile effort, and is less about having a hype machine and more about sharing information with the world on key use cases, success stories, etc…. That CloudStack is the dark matter of the open source cloud computing world is of benefit to none.
I realize most analysts and certainly much of the OpenStack community would prefer Apache CloudStack to remain in obscurity but in the real world it has sustainable and defensible value for use cases that OpenStack, and other vendor driven projects are unable to effectively address.
CloudOps has always believed the market is not an either/or proposition. We have a responsibility to make the capabilities and key use cases widely known, especially since the Apache Foundation cannot do it. We need to work on this now.
Ian
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>> wrote:
Ilya - I agree 100% - this is a really good testament to the quality of our software and the effort by this community
Although it gauls me slightly to have to caveat everything with "despite the marketing" and "despite the committer base"
We here all know that Cloudstack is the "invisible man" in this space. We all know its in widespread adoption but it continues to not get the attention of AN Other project
This can be changed, but we are a user led community. It can be changed by our largescale users coming out and showing their public support for this project. We also need more vendors to relaise that Cloudstack integration is a decent route to market for their products - but that wont start until that user community starts speaking publically
Kind Regards
Giles
[ShapeBlue]<http://www.shapeblue.com>
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CEO
,
ShapeBlue
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-----Original Message-----
From: ilya [mailto:ilya.mailing.lists@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>]
Sent: 10 February 2016 22:11
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org<ma...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud-Report.pdf
My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7% margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less And some fairly large sized CCP customers failed to participate in this survey.
With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone involved in ACS community and beyond!
Regards
ilya
Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services:
IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build/> | CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> | CloudStack Software Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> | CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
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CEO | PDG
c: 514.944.4008<tel:514.944.4008>
CloudOps | Cloud Infrastructure and Networking Solutions
www.cloudops.com<http://www.cloudops.com> | 420 rue Guy | Montreal | Canada | H3J 1S6
Re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Posted by Tim Mackey <tm...@gmail.com>.
+100 to skip the hype.
I've always believed touting "how we compare" is disingenuous to adopters.
It assumes we aspire to be like someone else. I feel if we focus on core
strengths (the what) and highlighting what people have solved by using us
(the why), then people will start to draw their own comparisons.
As someone who's been the face of a product the Gartner folks deem "niche"
(XenServer in case readers aren't familiar) for some years, I'm happy with
focusing on the niche and ensuring those who'e adopted XenServer are
successful as a result of that choice. Their advocacy is worth its weight
in gold, and I rather like that Apache CloudStack events have users talking
openly about their successes. I feel we need to find ways to increase the
reach of those user messages.
-tim
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Chip Childers <ch...@apache.org>
wrote:
> +1 to what both Giles and Ian are saying.
>
> Skip the hype. Focus on real value being seen by users. Educate, don't
> confuse.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Ian Rae <ir...@cloudops.com> wrote:
>
>> Absolutely Giles. With the Citrix exit from the community it is time for
>> the large users and commercial supporters to reboot the effort to build an
>> Apache CloudStack related marketing alliance. This can be done as a lean
>> and agile effort, and is less about having a hype machine and more about
>> sharing information with the world on key use cases, success stories, etc….
>> That CloudStack is the dark matter of the open source cloud computing world
>> is of benefit to none.
>>
>> I realize most analysts and certainly much of the OpenStack community
>> would prefer Apache CloudStack to remain in obscurity but in the real world
>> it has sustainable and defensible value for use cases that OpenStack, and
>> other vendor driven projects are unable to effectively address.
>>
>> CloudOps has always believed the market is not an either/or proposition.
>> We have a responsibility to make the capabilities and key use cases widely
>> known, especially since the Apache Foundation cannot do it. We need to work
>> on this now.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Giles Sirett <giles.sirett@shapeblue.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Ilya - I agree 100% - this is a really good testament to the quality of
>>> our software and the effort by this community
>>>
>>> Although it gauls me slightly to have to caveat everything with "despite
>>> the marketing" and "despite the committer base"
>>>
>>>
>>> We here all know that Cloudstack is the "invisible man" in this space.
>>> We all know its in widespread adoption but it continues to not get the
>>> attention of AN Other project
>>>
>>>
>>> This can be changed, but we are a user led community. It can be changed
>>> by our largescale users coming out and showing their public support for
>>> this project. We also need more vendors to relaise that Cloudstack
>>> integration is a decent route to market for their products - but that wont
>>> start until that user community starts speaking publically
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Giles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: ShapeBlue] <http://www.shapeblue.com>
>>> Giles Sirett
>>> CEO , ShapeBlue
>>> d: *+44 20 3603 0541 | s: +44 203 603 0540*
>>> <+44%20%2020%203603%200541%20%7C%20s:%20+44%20203%20603%200540> | m:
>>> *+44 7961112055* <+44%207961112055>
>>> e: *giles.sirett@shapeblue.com | t: *
>>> <giles.sirett@shapeblue.com%20%7C%20t:> | w: *www.shapeblue.com*
>>> <http://www.shapeblue.com>
>>> a: 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden London WC2N 4HS UK
>>> Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue
>>> Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under
>>> license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a
>>> company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape
>>> Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of
>>> South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is
>>> a registered trademark.
>>> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are
>>> intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any
>>> views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
>>> necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you
>>> are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any
>>> action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please
>>> contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ilya [mailto:ilya.mailing.lists@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: 10 February 2016 22:11
>>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>>> Subject: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
>>>
>>> Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
>>>
>>>
>>> http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud-Report.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7%
>>> margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
>>> 1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
>>> 2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
>>> 3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less And some fairly large
>>> sized CCP customers failed to participate in this survey.
>>>
>>> With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing
>>> REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone
>>> involved in ACS community and beyond!
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> ilya
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>>> services:
>>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
>>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> | CSForge – rapid
>>> IaaS deployment framework <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
>>> CloudStack Consulting <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> | CloudStack
>>> Software Engineering
>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
>>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> | CloudStack
>>> Bootcamp Training Courses <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ian Rae
>> CEO | PDG
>> c: 514.944.4008
>>
>> CloudOps | Cloud Infrastructure and Networking Solutions
>> www.cloudops.com | 420 rue Guy | Montreal | Canada | H3J 1S6
>>
>
>
Re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@apache.org>.
+1 to what both Giles and Ian are saying.
Skip the hype. Focus on real value being seen by users. Educate, don't
confuse.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Ian Rae <ir...@cloudops.com> wrote:
> Absolutely Giles. With the Citrix exit from the community it is time for
> the large users and commercial supporters to reboot the effort to build an
> Apache CloudStack related marketing alliance. This can be done as a lean
> and agile effort, and is less about having a hype machine and more about
> sharing information with the world on key use cases, success stories, etc….
> That CloudStack is the dark matter of the open source cloud computing world
> is of benefit to none.
>
> I realize most analysts and certainly much of the OpenStack community
> would prefer Apache CloudStack to remain in obscurity but in the real world
> it has sustainable and defensible value for use cases that OpenStack, and
> other vendor driven projects are unable to effectively address.
>
> CloudOps has always believed the market is not an either/or proposition.
> We have a responsibility to make the capabilities and key use cases widely
> known, especially since the Apache Foundation cannot do it. We need to work
> on this now.
>
> Ian
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ilya - I agree 100% - this is a really good testament to the quality of
>> our software and the effort by this community
>>
>> Although it gauls me slightly to have to caveat everything with "despite
>> the marketing" and "despite the committer base"
>>
>>
>> We here all know that Cloudstack is the "invisible man" in this space. We
>> all know its in widespread adoption but it continues to not get the
>> attention of AN Other project
>>
>>
>> This can be changed, but we are a user led community. It can be changed
>> by our largescale users coming out and showing their public support for
>> this project. We also need more vendors to relaise that Cloudstack
>> integration is a decent route to market for their products - but that wont
>> start until that user community starts speaking publically
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards
>> Giles
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: ShapeBlue] <http://www.shapeblue.com>
>> Giles Sirett
>> CEO , ShapeBlue
>> d: *+44 20 3603 0541 | s: +44 203 603 0540*
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>> <http://www.shapeblue.com>
>> a: 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden London WC2N 4HS UK
>> Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue
>> Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under
>> license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a
>> company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape
>> Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of
>> South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is
>> a registered trademark.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ilya [mailto:ilya.mailing.lists@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 10 February 2016 22:11
>> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
>>
>> Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
>>
>>
>> http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud-Report.pdf
>>
>>
>> My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7%
>> margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
>> 1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
>> 2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
>> 3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less And some fairly large
>> sized CCP customers failed to participate in this survey.
>>
>> With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing
>> REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone
>> involved in ACS community and beyond!
>>
>> Regards
>> ilya
>>
>>
>>
>> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related
>> services:
>> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
>> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> | CSForge – rapid
>> IaaS deployment framework <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
>> CloudStack Consulting <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> | CloudStack
>> Software Engineering
>> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
>> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Ian Rae
> CEO | PDG
> c: 514.944.4008
>
> CloudOps | Cloud Infrastructure and Networking Solutions
> www.cloudops.com | 420 rue Guy | Montreal | Canada | H3J 1S6
>
Re: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Posted by Ian Rae <ir...@cloudops.com>.
Absolutely Giles. With the Citrix exit from the community it is time for
the large users and commercial supporters to reboot the effort to build an
Apache CloudStack related marketing alliance. This can be done as a lean
and agile effort, and is less about having a hype machine and more about
sharing information with the world on key use cases, success stories, etc….
That CloudStack is the dark matter of the open source cloud computing world
is of benefit to none.
I realize most analysts and certainly much of the OpenStack community would
prefer Apache CloudStack to remain in obscurity but in the real world it
has sustainable and defensible value for use cases that OpenStack, and
other vendor driven projects are unable to effectively address.
CloudOps has always believed the market is not an either/or proposition. We
have a responsibility to make the capabilities and key use cases widely
known, especially since the Apache Foundation cannot do it. We need to work
on this now.
Ian
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>
wrote:
> Ilya - I agree 100% - this is a really good testament to the quality of
> our software and the effort by this community
>
> Although it gauls me slightly to have to caveat everything with "despite
> the marketing" and "despite the committer base"
>
>
> We here all know that Cloudstack is the "invisible man" in this space. We
> all know its in widespread adoption but it continues to not get the
> attention of AN Other project
>
>
> This can be changed, but we are a user led community. It can be changed by
> our largescale users coming out and showing their public support for this
> project. We also need more vendors to relaise that Cloudstack integration
> is a decent route to market for their products - but that wont start until
> that user community starts speaking publically
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
> Giles
>
>
>
> [image: ShapeBlue] <http://www.shapeblue.com>
> Giles Sirett
> CEO , ShapeBlue
> d: *+44 20 3603 0541 | s: +44 203 603 0540*
> <+44%20%2020%203603%200541%20%7C%20s:%20+44%20203%20603%200540> | m:
> *+44 7961112055* <+44%207961112055>
> e: *giles.sirett@shapeblue.com | t: *
> <giles.sirett@shapeblue.com%20%7C%20t:> | w: *www.shapeblue.com*
> <http://www.shapeblue.com>
> a: 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden London WC2N 4HS UK
> Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue
> Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under
> license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a
> company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape
> Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of
> South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is
> a registered trademark.
> This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended
> solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or
> opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily
> represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the
> intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based
> upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender
> if you believe you have received this email in error.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ilya [mailto:ilya.mailing.lists@gmail.com]
> Sent: 10 February 2016 22:11
> To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
>
> Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
>
>
> http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud-Report.pdf
>
>
> My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7%
> margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
> 1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
> 2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
> 3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less And some fairly large
> sized CCP customers failed to participate in this survey.
>
> With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing
> REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone
> involved in ACS community and beyond!
>
> Regards
> ilya
>
>
>
> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services:
> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
> <http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> | CSForge – rapid
> IaaS deployment framework <http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
> CloudStack Consulting <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> | CloudStack
> Software Engineering
> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
> <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> | CloudStack
> Bootcamp Training Courses <http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
>
--
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CEO | PDG
c: 514.944.4008
CloudOps | Cloud Infrastructure and Networking Solutions
www.cloudops.com | 420 rue Guy | Montreal | Canada | H3J 1S6
RE: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Posted by Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>.
Ilya - I agree 100% - this is a really good testament to the quality of our software and the effort by this community
Although it gauls me slightly to have to caveat everything with "despite the marketing" and "despite the committer base"
We here all know that Cloudstack is the "invisible man" in this space. We all know its in widespread adoption but it continues to not get the attention of AN Other project
This can be changed, but we are a user led community. It can be changed by our largescale users coming out and showing their public support for this project. We also need more vendors to relaise that Cloudstack integration is a decent route to market for their products - but that wont start until that user community starts speaking publically
Kind Regards
Giles
[ShapeBlue]<http://www.shapeblue.com>
Giles Sirett
CEO , ShapeBlue
d: +44 20 3603 0541 | s: +44 203 603 0540<tel:+44%20%2020%203603%200541%20|%20s:%20+44%20203%20603%200540> | m: +44 7961112055<tel:+44%207961112055>
e: giles.sirett@shapeblue.com | t: <mailto:giles.sirett@shapeblue.com%20|%20t:> | w: www.shapeblue.com<http://www.shapeblue.com>
a: 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden London WC2N 4HS UK
[cid:imaged2fad1.png@c077ee4b.429fda02]
Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.
-----Original Message-----
From: ilya [mailto:ilya.mailing.lists@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 February 2016 22:11
To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RightScale 2016 State of the Cloud Report
Here is the latest State of the Cloud Report
http://assets.rightscale.com/uploads/pdfs/RightScale-2016-State-of-the-Cloud-Report.pdf
My thoughts: while initially, it may seem that CloudStack is about 4-7% margin behind OpenStack, considering that:
1) Marketing budget is at least 500 times less
2) Active committer base is 30 times smaller
3) Overall resources are at least 100 times less And some fairly large sized CCP customers failed to participate in this survey.
With limited resources we've got and numbers we showed, we are doing REALLY WELL! I think it is a testament to job well done by everyone involved in ACS community and beyond!
Regards
ilya
Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services:
IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//> | CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/> | CloudStack Software Engineering<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-software-engineering/>
CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/> | CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>