[Issue 127353] New: Label "Outline" is used for 2 different functions (EN)

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https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127353

          Issue ID: 127353
        Issue Type: DEFECT
           Summary: Label "Outline" is used for 2 different functions (EN)
           Product: Writer
           Version: 3.3.0 or older (OOo)
          Hardware: All
                OS: All
            Status: CONFIRMED
          Severity: Normal
          Priority: P5 (lowest)
         Component: ui
          Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
          Reporter: mroe.nospam@gmx.net
  Target Milestone: ---

In Writer there are 2 different functions labelled with the same word
"Outline".

1. Tools → Outline Numbering…
This function uses special paragraph templates (mostly headings) for a
numbering of chapters in a document/book. This numbering can be used to create
a TOC.

Could it be Chapter Numbering…?
In german (original StarOffice): Kapitelnummerierung…
http://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/kapitel

2. Format → Bullets and Numbering…: (Tab) Outline
This is a special form of numbering which is independent from the used
paragraph templates.

In german (original StarOffice): Gliederung
http://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/gliederung


IMO different functions should have different labels.

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[Issue 127353] Label "Outline" is used for 2 different functions (EN)

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oooforum (fr) <oo...@free.fr> changed:

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--- Comment #2 from oooforum (fr) <oo...@free.fr> ---
Same thing in french where "chapitre" (chapter) word is used for this menu.
But I'm not a native english speaker and I don't know if this new item is
understandable.

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[Issue 127353] Label "Outline" is used for 2 different functions (EN)

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Marcus <ma...@apache.org> changed:

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         Issue Type|DEFECT                      |ENHANCEMENT
            Version|3.3.0 or older (OOo)        |4.1.3

--- Comment #1 from Marcus <ma...@apache.org> ---
(In reply to mroe from comment #0)
> 
> IMO different functions should have different labels.

1. For me both functions belong to the same topic: To apply and format the
numbering in an outline:

- Tools - Outline Numbering
--> to apply the defined numbering to an outline in the document

- Format - Bullets and Numbering, Tab Outline
--> to change the formatting of the used outline

Sure, the functionality is not strict separated from each other, its a bit
overlapping, but still.

2. Outline numbering is a very common term in the English language. Therefore I
wouldn't suggest to rename a thing just because it's confusing in another
language.

Suggestion:
The (maybe) best we could do is to change it to:

Tools - Outline/Chapter numbering

in order to avoid to totally confuse people that expect the wording that was
used since years and which is common in other programs, too.

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Marcus <ma...@apache.org> changed:

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            Version|4.1.3                       |3.3.0 or older (OOo)

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