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Posted to dev@stratos.apache.org by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> on 2013/12/02 07:52:55 UTC
detailed beginners installation guide for single node development environment
Is there a detailed beginners installation guide available for setting up
Stratos on a single machine?
Ideally the guide would walk through setting up the operating system (e.g.
ubuntu 12.04), and then installing the necessary pre-requisites on the OS
before installing Stratos.
I have looked through the installation guide on the wiki (
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Installation+Guide) -
but I think this is only suitable for someone experienced with Stratos.
Re: detailed beginners installation guide for single node development environment
Posted by Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org>.
Hi Linc,
You are most welcome! Hope it would help.
One important point, at the moment we are in the process of designing the
Multi-Tenancy support for Apache Stratos (incubating) 4.0.0. The initial
discussion could be found in mail thread "[New Architecture] [LB]
Multi-Tenancy Support - Proposal".
If it is possible for you to share your experience with your Multi-Tenant
application in the dev list it might be really helpful for us to consider
generic requirements you may have.
Important points:
1. User Management:
- How do you intend to manage super users and tenant users?
- The concern is that Stratos Manager might need to integrate with the
existing user management system.
2. Tenant URL Format
- If your application is accessed via HTTP what would be the URL format of
a tenant?
Examples:
1. https://<hostname>:<port>/t/<tenant-identifier>/<path>
2. https://<hostname>:<port>/<path>?t=<tenant-identifier>
- What would be the tenant identifier?
3. Tenant Partitioning
- Do you partition tenants into clusters?
- If so how do you group them?
Really appreciate your feedback on this.
Many Thanks
Imesh
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 3:31 PM, LINC <cu...@viettel.com.vn> wrote:
> Thank you very much. J
>
> I will study your answer deeply.
>
> I will check documentation you referenced.
>
> Many thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Imesh Gunaratne [mailto:imesh@apache.org]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 02, 2013 4:21 PM
>
> *To:* dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: detailed beginners installation guide for single node
> development environment
>
>
>
> Hi Linc,
>
>
>
> It's really nice to see your interest on Apache Stratos (incubating).
>
> Please find answers for your questions inline:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:00 PM, LINC <cu...@viettel.com.vn> wrote:
>
> I have same conception with Chris Snow.
>
> I am studying about Cloud, I use OpenStack (IaaS) and Stratos (PaaS) but I
> don’t know Stratos interact with OpenStack.
>
> Each tenant (is project in Openstack) will install one Stratos?
>
>
>
> At the moment Multi-Tenancy support is not there in 4.0.0-incubating. It's
> still under development.
>
> However you could refer 3.0.0-incubating. No, each tenant could re-use one
> Stratos installation. Basically if you deploy a Multi-Tenant cartridge it
> will spawn 'n' number of instances in 'm' number of clusters. Each cluster
> could be configured to handle sub sets of tenants.
>
>
>
>
>
> Multi-tenant Cartridge can deploy for multi-tenant in one Stratos?
>
>
>
> Yes, as I have explained above a Multi-Tenant cartridge could be deployed
> in one Stratos installation.
>
>
>
> How can I deploy hybrid cloud with Openstack and Stratos?
>
>
>
> If it is a Hybrid cloud, first you need to decide in which cloud you are
> going to deploy Stratos products (Cloud Controller, Stratos Controller,
> etc). Then in Cloud Controller you could configure details of the second
> cloud provider (in repository/conf/cloud-controller.xml).
>
>
>
> Could someone give me some documentation about infractstructe, deployment
> or point me right direction to study?
>
>
>
> The official documentation could be found here [1] and an introduction to
> 3.0.0-incubating architecture could be found here [2].
>
>
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Index
>
> [2] http://imesh.gunaratne.org/a/1/blog/apache-stratos-in-a-nutshell/
>
>
>
>
>
> Many Thanks
>
> Imesh
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanhks.
>
>
>
> *From:* chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 02, 2013 2:44 PM
> *To:* dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: detailed beginners installation guide for single node
> development environment
>
>
>
> Hi Imesh,
>
> Thanks for the document. However, I was hoping for something a bit more
> detailed, for example describing how openstack would be installed and
> configured prior to setting up stratos.
>
> For a beginner stratos administrator, it is difficult to picture how all
> the moving parts fit together and interact with each other. A deployment
> diagram would be useful to show the relationships between operating system,
> stratos, openstack/ec2 and other infrastructure elements (eg. DNS, rdbms).
>
> I would be happy to put together some detailed administrator documentation
> (including deployment diagrams), however, to do this I would need some
> knowledge sharing sessions.
>
> Many thanks,
> Chris
>
> On 2 Dec 2013 07:05, "Imesh Gunaratne" <im...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Please find the latest installation guide attached with this mail. It was
> sent to dev list with milestone M3 ready mail.
>
>
>
> The link you have referred should come under 3.0.0-incubating. We need to
> update the Wiki and create a separate section for 4.0.0-incubating
> documentation. Then we could move the content from this PDF to a new Wiki
> page. I have started a discussion thread for this.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is there a detailed beginners installation guide available for setting up
> Stratos on a single machine?
>
>
>
> Ideally the guide would walk through setting up the operating system (e.g.
> ubuntu 12.04), and then installing the necessary pre-requisites on the OS
> before installing Stratos.
>
>
>
> I have looked through the installation guide on the wiki (
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Installation+Guide) -
> but I think this is only suitable for someone experienced with Stratos.
>
>
>
>
>
RE: detailed beginners installation guide for single node development
environment
Posted by LINC <cu...@viettel.com.vn>.
Thank you very much. J
I will study your answer deeply.
I will check documentation you referenced.
Many thanks
From: Imesh Gunaratne [mailto:imesh@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:21 PM
To: dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: detailed beginners installation guide for single node
development environment
Hi Linc,
It's really nice to see your interest on Apache Stratos (incubating).
Please find answers for your questions inline:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:00 PM, LINC <cu...@viettel.com.vn> wrote:
I have same conception with Chris Snow.
I am studying about Cloud, I use OpenStack (IaaS) and Stratos (PaaS) but I
don't know Stratos interact with OpenStack.
Each tenant (is project in Openstack) will install one Stratos?
At the moment Multi-Tenancy support is not there in 4.0.0-incubating. It's
still under development.
However you could refer 3.0.0-incubating. No, each tenant could re-use one
Stratos installation. Basically if you deploy a Multi-Tenant cartridge it
will spawn 'n' number of instances in 'm' number of clusters. Each cluster
could be configured to handle sub sets of tenants.
Multi-tenant Cartridge can deploy for multi-tenant in one Stratos?
Yes, as I have explained above a Multi-Tenant cartridge could be deployed in
one Stratos installation.
How can I deploy hybrid cloud with Openstack and Stratos?
If it is a Hybrid cloud, first you need to decide in which cloud you are
going to deploy Stratos products (Cloud Controller, Stratos Controller,
etc). Then in Cloud Controller you could configure details of the second
cloud provider (in repository/conf/cloud-controller.xml).
Could someone give me some documentation about infractstructe, deployment or
point me right direction to study?
The official documentation could be found here [1] and an introduction to
3.0.0-incubating architecture could be found here [2].
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Index
[2] http://imesh.gunaratne.org/a/1/blog/apache-stratos-in-a-nutshell/
Many Thanks
Imesh
Thanhks.
From: chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 2:44 PM
To: dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: detailed beginners installation guide for single node
development environment
Hi Imesh,
Thanks for the document. However, I was hoping for something a bit more
detailed, for example describing how openstack would be installed and
configured prior to setting up stratos.
For a beginner stratos administrator, it is difficult to picture how all the
moving parts fit together and interact with each other. A deployment
diagram would be useful to show the relationships between operating system,
stratos, openstack/ec2 and other infrastructure elements (eg. DNS, rdbms).
I would be happy to put together some detailed administrator documentation
(including deployment diagrams), however, to do this I would need some
knowledge sharing sessions.
Many thanks,
Chris
On 2 Dec 2013 07:05, "Imesh Gunaratne" <im...@apache.org> wrote:
Please find the latest installation guide attached with this mail. It was
sent to dev list with milestone M3 ready mail.
The link you have referred should come under 3.0.0-incubating. We need to
update the Wiki and create a separate section for 4.0.0-incubating
documentation. Then we could move the content from this PDF to a new Wiki
page. I have started a discussion thread for this.
Thanks
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a detailed beginners installation guide available for setting up
Stratos on a single machine?
Ideally the guide would walk through setting up the operating system (e.g.
ubuntu 12.04), and then installing the necessary pre-requisites on the OS
before installing Stratos.
I have looked through the installation guide on the wiki
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Installation+Guide) -
but I think this is only suitable for someone experienced with Stratos.
Re: detailed beginners installation guide for single node development environment
Posted by Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org>.
Hi Linc,
It's really nice to see your interest on Apache Stratos (incubating).
Please find answers for your questions inline:
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 2:00 PM, LINC <cu...@viettel.com.vn> wrote:
> I have same conception with Chris Snow.
>
> I am studying about Cloud, I use OpenStack (IaaS) and Stratos (PaaS) but I
> don’t know Stratos interact with OpenStack.
>
> Each tenant (is project in Openstack) will install one Stratos?
>
At the moment Multi-Tenancy support is not there in 4.0.0-incubating. It's
still under development.
However you could refer 3.0.0-incubating. No, each tenant could re-use one
Stratos installation. Basically if you deploy a Multi-Tenant cartridge it
will spawn 'n' number of instances in 'm' number of clusters. Each cluster
could be configured to handle sub sets of tenants.
> Multi-tenant Cartridge can deploy for multi-tenant in one Stratos?
>
Yes, as I have explained above a Multi-Tenant cartridge could be deployed
in one Stratos installation.
> How can I deploy hybrid cloud with Openstack and Stratos?
>
If it is a Hybrid cloud, first you need to decide in which cloud you are
going to deploy Stratos products (Cloud Controller, Stratos Controller,
etc). Then in Cloud Controller you could configure details of the second
cloud provider (in repository/conf/cloud-controller.xml).
> Could someone give me some documentation about infractstructe, deployment
> or point me right direction to study?
>
The official documentation could be found here [1] and an introduction to
3.0.0-incubating architecture could be found here [2].
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Index
[2] http://imesh.gunaratne.org/a/1/blog/apache-stratos-in-a-nutshell/
Many Thanks
Imesh
> Thanhks.
>
>
>
> *From:* chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 02, 2013 2:44 PM
> *To:* dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org
> *Subject:* Re: detailed beginners installation guide for single node
> development environment
>
>
>
> Hi Imesh,
>
> Thanks for the document. However, I was hoping for something a bit more
> detailed, for example describing how openstack would be installed and
> configured prior to setting up stratos.
>
> For a beginner stratos administrator, it is difficult to picture how all
> the moving parts fit together and interact with each other. A deployment
> diagram would be useful to show the relationships between operating system,
> stratos, openstack/ec2 and other infrastructure elements (eg. DNS, rdbms).
>
> I would be happy to put together some detailed administrator documentation
> (including deployment diagrams), however, to do this I would need some
> knowledge sharing sessions.
>
> Many thanks,
> Chris
>
> On 2 Dec 2013 07:05, "Imesh Gunaratne" <im...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Please find the latest installation guide attached with this mail. It was
> sent to dev list with milestone M3 ready mail.
>
>
>
> The link you have referred should come under 3.0.0-incubating. We need to
> update the Wiki and create a separate section for 4.0.0-incubating
> documentation. Then we could move the content from this PDF to a new Wiki
> page. I have started a discussion thread for this.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is there a detailed beginners installation guide available for setting up
> Stratos on a single machine?
>
>
>
> Ideally the guide would walk through setting up the operating system (e.g.
> ubuntu 12.04), and then installing the necessary pre-requisites on the OS
> before installing Stratos.
>
>
>
> I have looked through the installation guide on the wiki (
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Installation+Guide) -
> but I think this is only suitable for someone experienced with Stratos.
>
>
>
RE: detailed beginners installation guide for single node development
environment
Posted by LINC <cu...@viettel.com.vn>.
I have same conception with Chris Snow.
I am studying about Cloud, I use OpenStack (IaaS) and Stratos (PaaS) but I
don't know Stratos interact with OpenStack.
Each tenant (is project in Openstack) will install one Stratos?
Multi-tenant Cartridge can deploy for multi-tenant in one Stratos?
How can I deploy hybrid cloud with Openstack and Stratos?
Could someone give me some documentation about infractstructe, deployment or
point me right direction to study?
Thanhks.
From: chris snow [mailto:chsnow123@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 2:44 PM
To: dev@stratos.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: detailed beginners installation guide for single node
development environment
Hi Imesh,
Thanks for the document. However, I was hoping for something a bit more
detailed, for example describing how openstack would be installed and
configured prior to setting up stratos.
For a beginner stratos administrator, it is difficult to picture how all the
moving parts fit together and interact with each other. A deployment
diagram would be useful to show the relationships between operating system,
stratos, openstack/ec2 and other infrastructure elements (eg. DNS, rdbms).
I would be happy to put together some detailed administrator documentation
(including deployment diagrams), however, to do this I would need some
knowledge sharing sessions.
Many thanks,
Chris
On 2 Dec 2013 07:05, "Imesh Gunaratne" <im...@apache.org> wrote:
Please find the latest installation guide attached with this mail. It was
sent to dev list with milestone M3 ready mail.
The link you have referred should come under 3.0.0-incubating. We need to
update the Wiki and create a separate section for 4.0.0-incubating
documentation. Then we could move the content from this PDF to a new Wiki
page. I have started a discussion thread for this.
Thanks
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a detailed beginners installation guide available for setting up
Stratos on a single machine?
Ideally the guide would walk through setting up the operating system (e.g.
ubuntu 12.04), and then installing the necessary pre-requisites on the OS
before installing Stratos.
I have looked through the installation guide on the wiki
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Installation+Guide) -
but I think this is only suitable for someone experienced with Stratos.
Re: detailed beginners installation guide for single node development environment
Posted by Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org>.
Hi Chris,
I understand your concern. That information is still not in place for
4.0.0. However to start with you could install Openstack using DevStack
[1]. The only concern is that Openstack should have sufficient amount of
memory and disk to spawn VM instances. To begin with, 16 GB of memory and
1TB of disk space would do.
Yes Stratos is conducting a series of Hangouts on 4.0.0 architecture which
describes how different products interact with each other. Please see them
here [2].
It would be great if you could put together some detailed administrator
documentation.
[1] http://devstack.org/
[2] http://stratos.incubator.apache.org/events/hangouts.html
Many Thanks
Imesh
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 1:13 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Imesh,
>
> Thanks for the document. However, I was hoping for something a bit more
> detailed, for example describing how openstack would be installed and
> configured prior to setting up stratos.
>
> For a beginner stratos administrator, it is difficult to picture how all
> the moving parts fit together and interact with each other. A deployment
> diagram would be useful to show the relationships between operating system,
> stratos, openstack/ec2 and other infrastructure elements (eg. DNS, rdbms).
>
> I would be happy to put together some detailed administrator documentation
> (including deployment diagrams), however, to do this I would need some
> knowledge sharing sessions.
>
> Many thanks,
> Chris
> On 2 Dec 2013 07:05, "Imesh Gunaratne" <im...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Please find the latest installation guide attached with this mail. It was
>> sent to dev list with milestone M3 ready mail.
>>
>> The link you have referred should come under 3.0.0-incubating. We need to
>> update the Wiki and create a separate section for 4.0.0-incubating
>> documentation. Then we could move the content from this PDF to a new Wiki
>> page. I have started a discussion thread for this.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a detailed beginners installation guide available for setting
>>> up Stratos on a single machine?
>>>
>>> Ideally the guide would walk through setting up the operating system
>>> (e.g. ubuntu 12.04), and then installing the necessary pre-requisites on
>>> the OS before installing Stratos.
>>>
>>> I have looked through the installation guide on the wiki (
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Installation+Guide)
>>> - but I think this is only suitable for someone experienced with Stratos.
>>>
>>
>>
Re: detailed beginners installation guide for single node development environment
Posted by chris snow <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi Imesh,
Thanks for the document. However, I was hoping for something a bit more
detailed, for example describing how openstack would be installed and
configured prior to setting up stratos.
For a beginner stratos administrator, it is difficult to picture how all
the moving parts fit together and interact with each other. A deployment
diagram would be useful to show the relationships between operating system,
stratos, openstack/ec2 and other infrastructure elements (eg. DNS, rdbms).
I would be happy to put together some detailed administrator documentation
(including deployment diagrams), however, to do this I would need some
knowledge sharing sessions.
Many thanks,
Chris
On 2 Dec 2013 07:05, "Imesh Gunaratne" <im...@apache.org> wrote:
> Please find the latest installation guide attached with this mail. It was
> sent to dev list with milestone M3 ready mail.
>
> The link you have referred should come under 3.0.0-incubating. We need to
> update the Wiki and create a separate section for 4.0.0-incubating
> documentation. Then we could move the content from this PDF to a new Wiki
> page. I have started a discussion thread for this.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there a detailed beginners installation guide available for setting up
>> Stratos on a single machine?
>>
>> Ideally the guide would walk through setting up the operating system
>> (e.g. ubuntu 12.04), and then installing the necessary pre-requisites on
>> the OS before installing Stratos.
>>
>> I have looked through the installation guide on the wiki (
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Installation+Guide)
>> - but I think this is only suitable for someone experienced with Stratos.
>>
>
>
Re: detailed beginners installation guide for single node development environment
Posted by Imesh Gunaratne <im...@apache.org>.
Please find the latest installation guide attached with this mail. It was
sent to dev list with milestone M3 ready mail.
The link you have referred should come under 3.0.0-incubating. We need to
update the Wiki and create a separate section for 4.0.0-incubating
documentation. Then we could move the content from this PDF to a new Wiki
page. I have started a discussion thread for this.
Thanks
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 12:22 PM, chris snow <ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a detailed beginners installation guide available for setting up
> Stratos on a single machine?
>
> Ideally the guide would walk through setting up the operating system (e.g.
> ubuntu 12.04), and then installing the necessary pre-requisites on the OS
> before installing Stratos.
>
> I have looked through the installation guide on the wiki (
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STRATOS/Installation+Guide) -
> but I think this is only suitable for someone experienced with Stratos.
>