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Thout reader

The Thout Reader folks (http://www.osoft.com/thout/ and
http://sourceforge.net/projects/thout/) want to make the Apache docs
available in their document format, and perhaps for us to distribute it
on our site. They'd help with xslt to convert xml directly to their
format. 

Discuss among yourselves.

Generally, I'm supportive of this idea, because it gives a nice
distribution of the docs, PDF-ish, but easier to generate and maintain.

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Re: Thout reader

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Joshua Slive wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Rich Bowen wrote:
> > Just a final follow-up. Is this the consensus of the majority? ie,
> > "Thanks, you're welcome to do it yourself, but we're not interested." ?
> 
> I'd say that sounds about right, although I'd try to be slightly more 
> positive about it, like: "Thanks, sounds interesting.  Go ahead and do it 
> and if we see there is demand we'll consider putting it on our site."

That much of the message, I already delivered in person when we spoke at
OSCon. I think it does sound interesting, and if it had been done 10
years ago or so, it might have gained the popularity of PDF.

> I'm not personally very optimistic about demand developing for this, 
> however.

Ok. Thanks for the input.

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Re: Thout reader

Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Rich Bowen wrote:
> Just a final follow-up. Is this the consensus of the majority? ie,
> "Thanks, you're welcome to do it yourself, but we're not interested." ?

I'd say that sounds about right, although I'd try to be slightly more 
positive about it, like: "Thanks, sounds interesting.  Go ahead and do it 
and if we see there is demand we'll consider putting it on our site."
I'm not personally very optimistic about demand developing for this, 
however.

Joshua.

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Re: Thout reader

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, [ISO-8859-15] André Malo wrote:

> * Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> 
> > The Thout Reader folks (http://www.osoft.com/thout/ and
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/thout/) want to make the Apache docs
> > available in their document format, and perhaps for us to distribute it
> > on our site. They'd help with xslt to convert xml directly to their
> > format. 
> > 
> > Discuss among yourselves.
> > 
> > Generally, I'm supportive of this idea, because it gives a nice
> > distribution of the docs, PDF-ish, but easier to generate and maintain.
> 
> I find it a bit weird, that one cannot get the current source and even some
> installation instructions on their site. (Or I've failed to find it). It
> doesn't look very "open" in sense of "open source" (I cannot verify if the CVS
> on sf.net is the same as the 1.0 source).
> 
> Anyway, if they want to use the httpd docs, they can do it without to ask us
> -- with respect to the license.

Just a final follow-up. Is this the consensus of the majority? ie,
"Thanks, you're welcome to do it yourself, but we're not interested." ?

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An eternity goes by
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Between then and now

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Re: Thout reader

Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On Fri, 30 Jul 2004, [ISO-8859-15] André Malo wrote:

> * Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:
> 
> > The Thout Reader folks (http://www.osoft.com/thout/ and
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/thout/) want to make the Apache docs
> > available in their document format, and perhaps for us to distribute it
> > on our site. They'd help with xslt to convert xml directly to their
> > format. 
> > 
> > Discuss among yourselves.
> > 
> > Generally, I'm supportive of this idea, because it gives a nice
> > distribution of the docs, PDF-ish, but easier to generate and maintain.
> 
> I find it a bit weird, that one cannot get the current source and even some
> installation instructions on their site. (Or I've failed to find it). It
> doesn't look very "open" in sense of "open source" (I cannot verify if the CVS
> on sf.net is the same as the 1.0 source).
> 
> Anyway, if they want to use the httpd docs, they can do it without to ask us
> -- with respect to the license.

Yes, and I believe I made that point very clear to them. And when they
asked about distributing the document from our site, I warned them about
the impression of implied endorsement. The doc itself is xhtml (or some
strange varient therof.)

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And as days turn into weeks and years,
And years turn into lifetimes, I just keep walking
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Re: Thout reader

Posted by André Malo <nd...@perlig.de>.
* Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com> wrote:

> The Thout Reader folks (http://www.osoft.com/thout/ and
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/thout/) want to make the Apache docs
> available in their document format, and perhaps for us to distribute it
> on our site. They'd help with xslt to convert xml directly to their
> format. 
> 
> Discuss among yourselves.
> 
> Generally, I'm supportive of this idea, because it gives a nice
> distribution of the docs, PDF-ish, but easier to generate and maintain.

I find it a bit weird, that one cannot get the current source and even some
installation instructions on their site. (Or I've failed to find it). It
doesn't look very "open" in sense of "open source" (I cannot verify if the CVS
on sf.net is the same as the 1.0 source).

Anyway, if they want to use the httpd docs, they can do it without to ask us
-- with respect to the license.

nd
-- 
package Hacker::Perl::Another::Just;print
qq~@{[reverse split/::/ =>__PACKAGE__]}~;

#  André Malo  #  http://www.perlig.de  #

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