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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Tony Linde <ae...@star.le.ac.uk> on 2003/02/24 16:34:40 UTC
Portal: usable now? Usable in future?
Hi,
I am PM of a project that needs to deploy a workable but customisable
portal as one of its components. The team working on this has set up a
Jetspeed-based solution using the demo site. I was wondering how usable
the Cocoon portal webapp is and whether anyone has compared it to the
Jetspeed one.
Also, is work still continuing on the Auth and Portal webapps? And is
there a release date for them?
We have to release incremental builds of the project but the final
release isn't until end of 2004 so I'm happy for us to work with beta
code (and even contribute to it if it adds to our project functionality)
as long as it seems a viable long-term project. What are the long-term
prospects of the Portal?
Thanks,
Tony.
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RE: Portal: usable now? Usable in future?
Posted by Chris Dietz <ch...@yahoo.com>.
On the portal subject...
Has anyone seen a message forum and/or group calendar integrated
with the cocoon portal?
I am starting to evaluate jetspeed. any thoughts?
-chris
--- Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de> wrote:
> The portal and authentication framework are used in production since
> years now - I don't have any links handy right now :( So, you can
> call the framework usable and stable.
>
> I can't compare the cocoon portal with jetspeed, because that wouldn't
> be objective enough, I fear. But if you want to use Cocoon anyway, use
> the Cocoon portal; if you want to build your application based on
> XML and XSLT (for example for multi-channel), use the cocoon portal.
> If jetspeed provides everything you need know and in the foreseen future,
> well...aeh...use the jetspeed portal of course.
>
> In general, I guess the cocoon portal is more flexible because of it's
> XML/XSLT nature - so you can add new features, integrate new portlets
> without writing one line java code; it's just a matter of "configuration".
>
> The development of the cocoon portal will continue and it will be even
> more powerfull and extensible than it is now.
>
> Just a teaser: What do you think of a portal that can run "cocoon portlets"
> and jetspeed based portlets at the same time?
>
> Carsten
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Linde [mailto:ael@star.le.ac.uk]
> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:35 PM
> > To: Cocoon-Users-List
> > Subject: Portal: usable now? Usable in future?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am PM of a project that needs to deploy a workable but customisable
> > portal as one of its components. The team working on this has set up a
> > Jetspeed-based solution using the demo site. I was wondering how usable
> > the Cocoon portal webapp is and whether anyone has compared it to the
> > Jetspeed one.
> >
> > Also, is work still continuing on the Auth and Portal webapps? And is
> > there a release date for them?
> >
> > We have to release incremental builds of the project but the final
> > release isn't until end of 2004 so I'm happy for us to work with beta
> > code (and even contribute to it if it adds to our project functionality)
> > as long as it seems a viable long-term project. What are the long-term
> > prospects of the Portal?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tony.
> >
> > __
> > Tony Linde Phone: +44 (0)116 223 1292
> > AstroGrid Project Manager Fax: +44 (0)116 252 3311
> > Dept of Physics & Astronomy Mobile: +44 (0)7753 603356
> > University of Leicester Email: ael@star.le.ac.uk
> > Leicester, UK LE1 7RH Web: http://www.astrogrid.org
> >
> >
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RE: Portal: usable now? Usable in future?
Posted by Tony Linde <ae...@star.le.ac.uk>.
Hi Carsten,
> production since years now - I don't have any links handy
> right now :( So, you can call the framework usable and stable.
Maybe someone else can jump in. would be useful in the 'sales pitch'!
> The development of the cocoon portal will continue and it
> will be even more powerfull and extensible than it is now.
Excellent.
> Just a teaser: What do you think of a portal that can run
> "cocoon portlets" and jetspeed based portlets at the same time?
Since we're developing all from scratch, I'd rather settle on a single
approach from the beginning but, since the jetspeed approach has been
out for a while longer, it sounds a good idea.
Cheers,
Tony.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:cziegeler@s-und-n.de]
> Sent: 24 February 2003 15:47
> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Portal: usable now? Usable in future?
>
>
> The portal and authentication framework are used in
> production since years now - I don't have any links handy
> right now :( So, you can call the framework usable and stable.
>
> I can't compare the cocoon portal with jetspeed, because that
> wouldn't be objective enough, I fear. But if you want to use
> Cocoon anyway, use the Cocoon portal; if you want to build
> your application based on XML and XSLT (for example for
> multi-channel), use the cocoon portal. If jetspeed provides
> everything you need know and in the foreseen future,
> well...aeh...use the jetspeed portal of course.
>
> In general, I guess the cocoon portal is more flexible
> because of it's XML/XSLT nature - so you can add new
> features, integrate new portlets without writing one line
> java code; it's just a matter of "configuration".
>
> The development of the cocoon portal will continue and it
> will be even more powerfull and extensible than it is now.
>
> Just a teaser: What do you think of a portal that can run
> "cocoon portlets" and jetspeed based portlets at the same time?
>
> Carsten
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Linde [mailto:ael@star.le.ac.uk]
> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:35 PM
> > To: Cocoon-Users-List
> > Subject: Portal: usable now? Usable in future?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am PM of a project that needs to deploy a workable but
> customisable
> > portal as one of its components. The team working on this
> has set up a
> > Jetspeed-based solution using the demo site. I was wondering how
> > usable the Cocoon portal webapp is and whether anyone has
> compared it
> > to the Jetspeed one.
> >
> > Also, is work still continuing on the Auth and Portal
> webapps? And is
> > there a release date for them?
> >
> > We have to release incremental builds of the project but the final
> > release isn't until end of 2004 so I'm happy for us to work
> with beta
> > code (and even contribute to it if it adds to our project
> > functionality) as long as it seems a viable long-term project. What
> > are the long-term prospects of the Portal?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tony.
> >
> > __
> > Tony Linde Phone: +44 (0)116 223 1292
> > AstroGrid Project Manager Fax: +44 (0)116 252 3311
> > Dept of Physics & Astronomy Mobile: +44 (0)7753 603356
> > University of Leicester Email: ael@star.le.ac.uk
> > Leicester, UK LE1 7RH Web: http://www.astrogrid.org
> >
> >
> >
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RE: Portal: usable now? Usable in future?
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
The portal and authentication framework are used in production since
years now - I don't have any links handy right now :( So, you can
call the framework usable and stable.
I can't compare the cocoon portal with jetspeed, because that wouldn't
be objective enough, I fear. But if you want to use Cocoon anyway, use
the Cocoon portal; if you want to build your application based on
XML and XSLT (for example for multi-channel), use the cocoon portal.
If jetspeed provides everything you need know and in the foreseen future,
well...aeh...use the jetspeed portal of course.
In general, I guess the cocoon portal is more flexible because of it's
XML/XSLT nature - so you can add new features, integrate new portlets
without writing one line java code; it's just a matter of "configuration".
The development of the cocoon portal will continue and it will be even
more powerfull and extensible than it is now.
Just a teaser: What do you think of a portal that can run "cocoon portlets"
and jetspeed based portlets at the same time?
Carsten
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Linde [mailto:ael@star.le.ac.uk]
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:35 PM
> To: Cocoon-Users-List
> Subject: Portal: usable now? Usable in future?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am PM of a project that needs to deploy a workable but customisable
> portal as one of its components. The team working on this has set up a
> Jetspeed-based solution using the demo site. I was wondering how usable
> the Cocoon portal webapp is and whether anyone has compared it to the
> Jetspeed one.
>
> Also, is work still continuing on the Auth and Portal webapps? And is
> there a release date for them?
>
> We have to release incremental builds of the project but the final
> release isn't until end of 2004 so I'm happy for us to work with beta
> code (and even contribute to it if it adds to our project functionality)
> as long as it seems a viable long-term project. What are the long-term
> prospects of the Portal?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony.
>
> __
> Tony Linde Phone: +44 (0)116 223 1292
> AstroGrid Project Manager Fax: +44 (0)116 252 3311
> Dept of Physics & Astronomy Mobile: +44 (0)7753 603356
> University of Leicester Email: ael@star.le.ac.uk
> Leicester, UK LE1 7RH Web: http://www.astrogrid.org
>
>
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