[OT]Sorry to the community

[Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter <ed...@mgrinformatica.com.br>]

I must to say sorry to this great community, by my last mails to Mr. 
Ilias Laziradis (not sorry to Mr. Laziradis itself).

In this context, I need to open a parentesis, and sintetize my 
frustation when trying to help people who want's no help.
Some time ago, the same Mr. Ilias Laziradis started as any other 
begginer, in the NetBeans maillist, asking some simple question. As I 
always does, I tryied to help him, sintetizing some years of reserach 
over Java plataform, the solutions I've found (including he is here 
today because I told him about OJB!!! - since he can't research by 
himself, proablly he never come to here if I never pointed him), and 
that kind of complete solution he wants simple doesn't exists.

He said, that time, he is more competent to find that kind of solution, 
because he is more prepared (?!). Even that time, when the NetBeans 
community start to ask NetBeans team to ban him, I stay at Mr.Laziradis 
side and asked to let him there. Whell, I changed my mind. If I can, 
I'll recomend every mail list I participate to block this user. Every 
thing he does is exchange a dozen of mails, and then say that "this tech 
is a failure", or "this company is a failure", or "this project is a 
failure" (as he done with NetBeans, and as he started to say about OJB).

I'm sorry to all who listen this noise, and I want to keep my self cool, 
and trying to not make this bad experience influency my spirit of help 
begginers (as I was in the past, and too many had patience with me).

To Mr. Laziradis, I'm sad to see how far the link to lisp discussion I 
posted about your condute is right. You remember me the "Nowhere Man - 
The Beatles".

To the community, you'll never see here another mail from (initial or a 
response) me directed to Mr. Laziradis - even if I know the answer about 
his questions. This will avoid him of ignore me, the technology, and the 
knowledge. Or even say that learn Java is irrelevant.

End.

Sorry, and let's go with this great project.

Best regards,

Edson Richter


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Re: [OT]Sorry to the community

[Thomas Mahler <th...@web.de>]

Hi Edson,

I guess one of the central social techniques on mailing lists is "Don't 
feed the troll".
So I won't exlude the person in question from the mailing list. But 
everyone on this list should be warned when he tries to launch the next 
thread.
But maybe he has left us for good after detecting that OJB is a failure 
and that the developers are all dumb...

If he won't stop we'll have to unsubcribe him. Please contact me if he 
is starting again.

cheers,
Thomas



Edson Carlos Ericksson Richter wrote:
> I must to say sorry to this great community, by my last mails to Mr. 
> Ilias Laziradis (not sorry to Mr. Laziradis itself).
> 
> In this context, I need to open a parentesis, and sintetize my 
> frustation when trying to help people who want's no help.
> Some time ago, the same Mr. Ilias Laziradis started as any other 
> begginer, in the NetBeans maillist, asking some simple question. As I 
> always does, I tryied to help him, sintetizing some years of reserach 
> over Java plataform, the solutions I've found (including he is here 
> today because I told him about OJB!!! - since he can't research by 
> himself, proablly he never come to here if I never pointed him), and 
> that kind of complete solution he wants simple doesn't exists.
> 
> He said, that time, he is more competent to find that kind of solution, 
> because he is more prepared (?!). Even that time, when the NetBeans 
> community start to ask NetBeans team to ban him, I stay at Mr.Laziradis 
> side and asked to let him there. Whell, I changed my mind. If I can, 
> I'll recomend every mail list I participate to block this user. Every 
> thing he does is exchange a dozen of mails, and then say that "this tech 
> is a failure", or "this company is a failure", or "this project is a 
> failure" (as he done with NetBeans, and as he started to say about OJB).
> 
> I'm sorry to all who listen this noise, and I want to keep my self cool, 
> and trying to not make this bad experience influency my spirit of help 
> begginers (as I was in the past, and too many had patience with me).
> 
> To Mr. Laziradis, I'm sad to see how far the link to lisp discussion I 
> posted about your condute is right. You remember me the "Nowhere Man - 
> The Beatles".
> 
> To the community, you'll never see here another mail from (initial or a 
> response) me directed to Mr. Laziradis - even if I know the answer about 
> his questions. This will avoid him of ignore me, the technology, and the 
> knowledge. Or even say that learn Java is irrelevant.
> 
> End.
> 
> Sorry, and let's go with this great project.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Edson Richter
> 
> 
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