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Posted to user@couchdb.apache.org by Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> on 2014/02/04 16:12:33 UTC

Re: Marketing suggestion

On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>
>> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8 about CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable ratio to me.
> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company" by Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual relevant posts, but they're months old.
>
> LinkedIn is a job-networking site — I can see it's useful to have a tag there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but it's beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+ group. A forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology than not having one at all, IMHO.

Agreed on the empty forum thing...

There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB 
one got quite spammy (as mentioned):
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)

And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294 
members)

Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an 
interest/voice and promoting CouchDB as something we use is 
good/best/awesome.

I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I 
do think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as 
we've got the interested hands to do the typing. :)

>
> —Jens
>
> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181


Re: Marketing suggestion

Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>.
On 5 February 2014 00:25, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:

> You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)
>
> Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!
>

+1 Go Go Go Benjamin :)

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Re: Marketing suggestion

Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>.
cool !!! :)


On 10 February 2014 17:48, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:

> On 2/4/14, 6:25 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>
>> You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)
>>
>> Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!
>>
>
> Totally missed this email. :-P Which wiki page were you wanting me to add
> myself to? :)
>
> I'll start pwning the LinkedIn Groups with CouchDB news. Now that the
> marketing@ list is together, I think we've got a good way to route all
> that.
>
> Onward! :)
>
>
>
>> On 4 February 2014 16:12, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8
>>>>> about
>>>>> CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable
>>>>> ratio
>>>>> to me.
>>>>>
>>>> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by
>>>> 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on
>>>> Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am
>>>> offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company"
>>>> by
>>>> Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual
>>>> relevant posts, but they're months old.
>>>>
>>>> LinkedIn is a job-networking site -- I can see it's useful to have a tag
>>>> there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but
>>>> it's
>>>> beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too
>>>> many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+
>>>> group. A
>>>> forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology
>>>> than
>>>> not having one at all, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed on the empty forum thing...
>>>
>>> There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB
>>> one
>>> got quite spammy (as mentioned):
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)
>>>
>>> And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294
>>> members)
>>>
>>> Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an
>>> interest/voice
>>> and promoting CouchDB as something we use is good/best/awesome.
>>>
>>> I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I
>>> do
>>> think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as we've
>>> got
>>> the interested hands to do the typing. :)
>>>
>>>  --Jens
>>>>
>>>> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Andy Wenk
Hamburg - Germany
RockIt!

http://www.couchdb-buch.de
http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de

GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588

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Re: Marketing suggestion

Posted by Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com>.
Done and done.

Also added the CouchDB Pros to that list.
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164

On 2/10/14, 4:06 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> This one:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/Marketing
>
> I am currently in talks with LinkedIn to get control of the CouchDB group.
>
> On 10 February 2014 17:48, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>> On 2/4/14, 6:25 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>> You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)
>>>
>>> Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!
>>
>> Totally missed this email. :-P Which wiki page were you wanting me to add
>> myself to? :)
>>
>> I'll start pwning the LinkedIn Groups with CouchDB news. Now that the
>> marketing@ list is together, I think we've got a good way to route all that.
>>
>> Onward! :)
>>
>>
>>> On 4 February 2014 16:12, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable
>>>>>> ratio
>>>>>> to me.
>>>>> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by
>>>>> 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on
>>>>> Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am
>>>>> offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company"
>>>>> by
>>>>> Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual
>>>>> relevant posts, but they're months old.
>>>>>
>>>>> LinkedIn is a job-networking site -- I can see it's useful to have a tag
>>>>> there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but
>>>>> it's
>>>>> beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too
>>>>> many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+
>>>>> group. A
>>>>> forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology
>>>>> than
>>>>> not having one at all, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed on the empty forum thing...
>>>>
>>>> There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB
>>>> one
>>>> got quite spammy (as mentioned):
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)
>>>>
>>>> And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294
>>>> members)
>>>>
>>>> Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an
>>>> interest/voice
>>>> and promoting CouchDB as something we use is good/best/awesome.
>>>>
>>>> I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I
>>>> do
>>>> think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as we've
>>>> got
>>>> the interested hands to do the typing. :)
>>>>
>>>>> --Jens
>>>>>
>>>>> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
>>>>
>>>
>
>


Re: Marketing suggestion

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
This one:

http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/Marketing

I am currently in talks with LinkedIn to get control of the CouchDB group.

On 10 February 2014 17:48, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
> On 2/4/14, 6:25 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>
>> You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)
>>
>> Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!
>
>
> Totally missed this email. :-P Which wiki page were you wanting me to add
> myself to? :)
>
> I'll start pwning the LinkedIn Groups with CouchDB news. Now that the
> marketing@ list is together, I think we've got a good way to route all that.
>
> Onward! :)
>
>
>>
>> On 4 February 2014 16:12, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8
>>>>> about
>>>>> CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable
>>>>> ratio
>>>>> to me.
>>>>
>>>> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by
>>>> 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on
>>>> Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am
>>>> offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company"
>>>> by
>>>> Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual
>>>> relevant posts, but they're months old.
>>>>
>>>> LinkedIn is a job-networking site -- I can see it's useful to have a tag
>>>> there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but
>>>> it's
>>>> beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too
>>>> many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+
>>>> group. A
>>>> forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology
>>>> than
>>>> not having one at all, IMHO.
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed on the empty forum thing...
>>>
>>> There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB
>>> one
>>> got quite spammy (as mentioned):
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)
>>>
>>> And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294
>>> members)
>>>
>>> Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an
>>> interest/voice
>>> and promoting CouchDB as something we use is good/best/awesome.
>>>
>>> I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I
>>> do
>>> think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as we've
>>> got
>>> the interested hands to do the typing. :)
>>>
>>>> --Jens
>>>>
>>>> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>



-- 
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater

Re: Marketing suggestion

Posted by Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com>.
On 2/4/14, 6:25 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)
>
> Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!

Totally missed this email. :-P Which wiki page were you wanting me to 
add myself to? :)

I'll start pwning the LinkedIn Groups with CouchDB news. Now that the 
marketing@ list is together, I think we've got a good way to route all that.

Onward! :)

>
> On 4 February 2014 16:12, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>> On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8 about
>>>> CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable ratio
>>>> to me.
>>> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by
>>> 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on
>>> Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am
>>> offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company" by
>>> Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual
>>> relevant posts, but they're months old.
>>>
>>> LinkedIn is a job-networking site -- I can see it's useful to have a tag
>>> there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but it's
>>> beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too
>>> many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+ group. A
>>> forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology than
>>> not having one at all, IMHO.
>>
>> Agreed on the empty forum thing...
>>
>> There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB one
>> got quite spammy (as mentioned):
>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)
>>
>> And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294
>> members)
>>
>> Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an interest/voice
>> and promoting CouchDB as something we use is good/best/awesome.
>>
>> I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I do
>> think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as we've got
>> the interested hands to do the typing. :)
>>
>>> --Jens
>>>
>>> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
>>
>
>


Re: Marketing suggestion

Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)

Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!

On 4 February 2014 16:12, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8 about
>>> CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable ratio
>>> to me.
>>
>> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by
>> 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on
>> Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am
>> offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company" by
>> Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual
>> relevant posts, but they're months old.
>>
>> LinkedIn is a job-networking site -- I can see it's useful to have a tag
>> there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but it's
>> beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too
>> many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+ group. A
>> forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology than
>> not having one at all, IMHO.
>
>
> Agreed on the empty forum thing...
>
> There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB one
> got quite spammy (as mentioned):
> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)
>
> And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294
> members)
>
> Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an interest/voice
> and promoting CouchDB as something we use is good/best/awesome.
>
> I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I do
> think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as we've got
> the interested hands to do the typing. :)
>
>>
>> --Jens
>>
>> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
>
>



-- 
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater