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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc> on 2007/07/05 03:23:57 UTC
RE: Outsourced Warehouse
Is there a way to configure ofbiz to work with an outsourced warehouse.
If so ...
Can you point me to the right areas
How does Ofbiz tell the wharehouse to do the shipment?
How does the interface to Invoicing and Payments get intitiated?
How do we sync stock levels?
If not ...
Are there any suggestions as to how to get it operational?
Is it best/easiest to send shipping requests incrementally or batched (eg
daily)?
Is there a VERY simple way to work with an outsourced warehouse (which does
not use Ofbiz)?
Thanks
David
Re: Outsourced Warehouse
Posted by Scott Gray <le...@gmail.com>.
Hi David
You'll find the hooks in oagis/servicedef/secas.xml
Regards
Scott
On 06/07/07, David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc> wrote:
>
> 2 follow up questions:
>
> How/Where do these processes hook into the order processing at the moment?
>
> What options do I have for a simpler interface to the warehouse?
>
> Thanks
> David G
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David E Jones [mailto:jonesde@hotwaxmedia.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 9:10 PM
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Outsourced Warehouse
>
>
> The OAGIS stuff as currently implemented just fills in for the
> pick/pack/ship process. Note that the outsourced warehouse will have to
> support this, and it will probably customization for both you and them.
>
> In general keep in mind that unless you're doing a fairly high volume
> integrations (any/all integrations) are not worth the cost. They are
> expensive, complicated, and difficult... no matter how good your tools and
> people are. Also, while initial code helps, it's never a complete
> solution.
>
> The messages we are using are as follows (with some quirkiness because of
> the spec agreement process and such; yeah specs are a start but exactly
> how
> to use them always still requires effort... businesses just vary too
> much):
>
> - when Order approved in OFBiz, send "Process Shipment" message to
> warehouse
> - when warehouse ships order send "Show Shipment" to OFBiz
> - when Return approved in OFBiz, send "Receive Delivery" message to
> warehouse
> - when warehouse receives return send "Acknowledge Delivery" message to
> OFBiz
> - when warehouse receives purchase order send "Acknowledge Delivery"
> message
> to OFBiz
> - periodically warehouse sends "Sync Inventory" message to OFBiz (for QOH
> comparisons and internal report of any differences)
>
> -David
>
>
> David Garrett wrote:
> > Anil,
> >
> > I like what I see. I was thinking oagis/ebXML might be the solution.
> >
> > How does the warehouse receive these requests and send them back to us.
> > Presumably they need an OAGIS interface.
> >
> > A few questions if you have time...
> > Can you elaborate what is the typical message flow to instruct the
> > warhouse to do a shipment and receive a confirmation. How/Where/When
> > is invoicing handled?
> > Where does this hook into the current order processing?
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > David
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Garrett [mailto:dgdgdg@communication.concepts.cc]
> > Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 2:30 PM
> > To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Outsourced Warehouse
> >
> > Thanks Anil,
> >
> > I looked at the Oagis code some weeks ago. I will take another look.
> > It seemed early in the development process.
> >
> > Do you have any initial delivereables targetted?
> >
> > David
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: toanilpatel@gmail.com [mailto:toanilpatel@gmail.com] On Behalf
> > Of Anil Patel
> > Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 12:41 PM
> > To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Outsourced Warehouse
> >
> > David,
> > Good timing. We are working on Implementation of such thing. You may
> > want to look at the code in Oagis component in SpecialPurpose folder in
> Ofbiz.
> >
> > We are implementing version 7.2 of Spec released by Open Application
> Group.
> > For details follow steps at following link.
> > http://www.openapplications.org/downloads/oagisarc/loadform.htm
> >
> > The Implementation is still work in progress. Very soon it will be in
> > good shape.
> >
> > Regards
> > Anil Patel
> >
> >
> > On 7/4/07, David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc> wrote:
> >> Is there a way to configure ofbiz to work with an outsourced warehouse.
> >>
> >> If so ...
> >> Can you point me to the right areas
> >> How does Ofbiz tell the wharehouse to do the shipment?
> >> How does the interface to Invoicing and Payments get intitiated?
> >> How do we sync stock levels?
> >>
> >> If not ...
> >> Are there any suggestions as to how to get it operational?
> >> Is it best/easiest to send shipping requests incrementally or batched
> >> (eg daily)?
> >> Is there a VERY simple way to work with an outsourced warehouse
> >> (which does not use Ofbiz)?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
RE: Outsourced Warehouse
Posted by David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc>.
2 follow up questions:
How/Where do these processes hook into the order processing at the moment?
What options do I have for a simpler interface to the warehouse?
Thanks
David G
-----Original Message-----
From: David E Jones [mailto:jonesde@hotwaxmedia.com]
Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 9:10 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: Outsourced Warehouse
The OAGIS stuff as currently implemented just fills in for the
pick/pack/ship process. Note that the outsourced warehouse will have to
support this, and it will probably customization for both you and them.
In general keep in mind that unless you're doing a fairly high volume
integrations (any/all integrations) are not worth the cost. They are
expensive, complicated, and difficult... no matter how good your tools and
people are. Also, while initial code helps, it's never a complete solution.
The messages we are using are as follows (with some quirkiness because of
the spec agreement process and such; yeah specs are a start but exactly how
to use them always still requires effort... businesses just vary too much):
- when Order approved in OFBiz, send "Process Shipment" message to warehouse
- when warehouse ships order send "Show Shipment" to OFBiz
- when Return approved in OFBiz, send "Receive Delivery" message to
warehouse
- when warehouse receives return send "Acknowledge Delivery" message to
OFBiz
- when warehouse receives purchase order send "Acknowledge Delivery" message
to OFBiz
- periodically warehouse sends "Sync Inventory" message to OFBiz (for QOH
comparisons and internal report of any differences)
-David
David Garrett wrote:
> Anil,
>
> I like what I see. I was thinking oagis/ebXML might be the solution.
>
> How does the warehouse receive these requests and send them back to us.
> Presumably they need an OAGIS interface.
>
> A few questions if you have time...
> Can you elaborate what is the typical message flow to instruct the
> warhouse to do a shipment and receive a confirmation. How/Where/When
> is invoicing handled?
> Where does this hook into the current order processing?
>
>
> Thanks
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Garrett [mailto:dgdgdg@communication.concepts.cc]
> Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 2:30 PM
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Outsourced Warehouse
>
> Thanks Anil,
>
> I looked at the Oagis code some weeks ago. I will take another look.
> It seemed early in the development process.
>
> Do you have any initial delivereables targetted?
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: toanilpatel@gmail.com [mailto:toanilpatel@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Anil Patel
> Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 12:41 PM
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Outsourced Warehouse
>
> David,
> Good timing. We are working on Implementation of such thing. You may
> want to look at the code in Oagis component in SpecialPurpose folder in
Ofbiz.
>
> We are implementing version 7.2 of Spec released by Open Application
Group.
> For details follow steps at following link.
> http://www.openapplications.org/downloads/oagisarc/loadform.htm
>
> The Implementation is still work in progress. Very soon it will be in
> good shape.
>
> Regards
> Anil Patel
>
>
> On 7/4/07, David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc> wrote:
>> Is there a way to configure ofbiz to work with an outsourced warehouse.
>>
>> If so ...
>> Can you point me to the right areas
>> How does Ofbiz tell the wharehouse to do the shipment?
>> How does the interface to Invoicing and Payments get intitiated?
>> How do we sync stock levels?
>>
>> If not ...
>> Are there any suggestions as to how to get it operational?
>> Is it best/easiest to send shipping requests incrementally or batched
>> (eg daily)?
>> Is there a VERY simple way to work with an outsourced warehouse
>> (which does not use Ofbiz)?
>>
>> Thanks
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Re: Outsourced Warehouse
Posted by David E Jones <jo...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
The OAGIS stuff as currently implemented just fills in for the pick/pack/ship process. Note that the outsourced warehouse will have to support this, and it will probably customization for both you and them.
In general keep in mind that unless you're doing a fairly high volume integrations (any/all integrations) are not worth the cost. They are expensive, complicated, and difficult... no matter how good your tools and people are. Also, while initial code helps, it's never a complete solution.
The messages we are using are as follows (with some quirkiness because of the spec agreement process and such; yeah specs are a start but exactly how to use them always still requires effort... businesses just vary too much):
- when Order approved in OFBiz, send "Process Shipment" message to warehouse
- when warehouse ships order send "Show Shipment" to OFBiz
- when Return approved in OFBiz, send "Receive Delivery" message to warehouse
- when warehouse receives return send "Acknowledge Delivery" message to OFBiz
- when warehouse receives purchase order send "Acknowledge Delivery" message to OFBiz
- periodically warehouse sends "Sync Inventory" message to OFBiz (for QOH comparisons and internal report of any differences)
-David
David Garrett wrote:
> Anil,
>
> I like what I see. I was thinking oagis/ebXML might be the solution.
>
> How does the warehouse receive these requests and send them back to us.
> Presumably they need an OAGIS interface.
>
> A few questions if you have time...
> Can you elaborate what is the typical message flow to instruct the warhouse
> to do a shipment and receive a confirmation. How/Where/When is invoicing
> handled?
> Where does this hook into the current order processing?
>
>
> Thanks
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Garrett [mailto:dgdgdg@communication.concepts.cc]
> Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 2:30 PM
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Outsourced Warehouse
>
> Thanks Anil,
>
> I looked at the Oagis code some weeks ago. I will take another look. It
> seemed early in the development process.
>
> Do you have any initial delivereables targetted?
>
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: toanilpatel@gmail.com [mailto:toanilpatel@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Anil
> Patel
> Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 12:41 PM
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Outsourced Warehouse
>
> David,
> Good timing. We are working on Implementation of such thing. You may want to
> look at the code in Oagis component in SpecialPurpose folder in Ofbiz.
>
> We are implementing version 7.2 of Spec released by Open Application Group.
> For details follow steps at following link.
> http://www.openapplications.org/downloads/oagisarc/loadform.htm
>
> The Implementation is still work in progress. Very soon it will be in good
> shape.
>
> Regards
> Anil Patel
>
>
> On 7/4/07, David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc> wrote:
>> Is there a way to configure ofbiz to work with an outsourced warehouse.
>>
>> If so ...
>> Can you point me to the right areas
>> How does Ofbiz tell the wharehouse to do the shipment?
>> How does the interface to Invoicing and Payments get intitiated?
>> How do we sync stock levels?
>>
>> If not ...
>> Are there any suggestions as to how to get it operational?
>> Is it best/easiest to send shipping requests incrementally or batched
>> (eg daily)?
>> Is there a VERY simple way to work with an outsourced warehouse (which
>> does not use Ofbiz)?
>>
>> Thanks
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
RE: Outsourced Warehouse
Posted by David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc>.
Anil,
I like what I see. I was thinking oagis/ebXML might be the solution.
How does the warehouse receive these requests and send them back to us.
Presumably they need an OAGIS interface.
A few questions if you have time...
Can you elaborate what is the typical message flow to instruct the warhouse
to do a shipment and receive a confirmation. How/Where/When is invoicing
handled?
Where does this hook into the current order processing?
Thanks
David
-----Original Message-----
From: David Garrett [mailto:dgdgdg@communication.concepts.cc]
Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 2:30 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: RE: Outsourced Warehouse
Thanks Anil,
I looked at the Oagis code some weeks ago. I will take another look. It
seemed early in the development process.
Do you have any initial delivereables targetted?
David
-----Original Message-----
From: toanilpatel@gmail.com [mailto:toanilpatel@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Anil
Patel
Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 12:41 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: Outsourced Warehouse
David,
Good timing. We are working on Implementation of such thing. You may want to
look at the code in Oagis component in SpecialPurpose folder in Ofbiz.
We are implementing version 7.2 of Spec released by Open Application Group.
For details follow steps at following link.
http://www.openapplications.org/downloads/oagisarc/loadform.htm
The Implementation is still work in progress. Very soon it will be in good
shape.
Regards
Anil Patel
On 7/4/07, David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to configure ofbiz to work with an outsourced warehouse.
>
> If so ...
> Can you point me to the right areas
> How does Ofbiz tell the wharehouse to do the shipment?
> How does the interface to Invoicing and Payments get intitiated?
> How do we sync stock levels?
>
> If not ...
> Are there any suggestions as to how to get it operational?
> Is it best/easiest to send shipping requests incrementally or batched
> (eg daily)?
> Is there a VERY simple way to work with an outsourced warehouse (which
> does not use Ofbiz)?
>
> Thanks
> David
>
>
>
RE: Outsourced Warehouse
Posted by David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc>.
Thanks Anil,
I looked at the Oagis code some weeks ago. I will take another look. It
seemed early in the development process.
Do you have any initial delivereables targetted?
David
-----Original Message-----
From: toanilpatel@gmail.com [mailto:toanilpatel@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Anil
Patel
Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 12:41 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: Outsourced Warehouse
David,
Good timing. We are working on Implementation of such thing. You may want to
look at the code in Oagis component in SpecialPurpose folder in Ofbiz.
We are implementing version 7.2 of Spec released by Open Application Group.
For details follow steps at following link.
http://www.openapplications.org/downloads/oagisarc/loadform.htm
The Implementation is still work in progress. Very soon it will be in good
shape.
Regards
Anil Patel
On 7/4/07, David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to configure ofbiz to work with an outsourced warehouse.
>
> If so ...
> Can you point me to the right areas
> How does Ofbiz tell the wharehouse to do the shipment?
> How does the interface to Invoicing and Payments get intitiated?
> How do we sync stock levels?
>
> If not ...
> Are there any suggestions as to how to get it operational?
> Is it best/easiest to send shipping requests incrementally or batched
> (eg daily)?
> Is there a VERY simple way to work with an outsourced warehouse (which
> does not use Ofbiz)?
>
> Thanks
> David
>
>
>
Re: Outsourced Warehouse
Posted by Anil Patel <ap...@adititechlabs.com>.
David,
Good timing. We are working on Implementation of such thing. You may want to
look at the code in Oagis component in SpecialPurpose folder in Ofbiz.
We are implementing version 7.2 of Spec released by Open Application Group.
For details follow steps at following link.
http://www.openapplications.org/downloads/oagisarc/loadform.htm
The Implementation is still work in progress. Very soon it will be in good
shape.
Regards
Anil Patel
On 7/4/07, David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc> wrote:
>
> Is there a way to configure ofbiz to work with an outsourced warehouse.
>
> If so ...
> Can you point me to the right areas
> How does Ofbiz tell the wharehouse to do the shipment?
> How does the interface to Invoicing and Payments get intitiated?
> How do we sync stock levels?
>
> If not ...
> Are there any suggestions as to how to get it operational?
> Is it best/easiest to send shipping requests incrementally or batched (eg
> daily)?
> Is there a VERY simple way to work with an outsourced warehouse (which
> does
> not use Ofbiz)?
>
> Thanks
> David
>
>
>
RE: Outsourced Warehouse
Posted by David Garrett <dg...@communication.concepts.cc>.
BJ,
My client imports goods to a managed warehouse. The warehouse does not/will
not be using or accessing ofbiz.
The client until now have just sent a daily XL spreadsheet of shipment
requests.
Does this fit your facility/vendor model or the "fulfillment house" model? I
am not sure I understand the terminology or distinction.
David
-----Original Message-----
From: BJ Freeman [mailto:bjfree@free-man.net]
Sent: Thursday, 5 July 2007 1:39 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: Outsourced Warehouse
i linked the facility to a vendor
the vendor is linked to the inventory
the inventory is linked to product.
I had to write some code for each vendor to keep inventory in the facility
updated.
kinda crude.
not if you talking about a fulfillment house that is a different story.
David Garrett sent the following on 7/4/2007 6:23 PM:
> Is there a way to configure ofbiz to work with an outsourced warehouse.
>
> If so ...
> Can you point me to the right areas
> How does Ofbiz tell the wharehouse to do the shipment?
> How does the interface to Invoicing and Payments get intitiated?
> How do we sync stock levels?
>
> If not ...
> Are there any suggestions as to how to get it operational?
> Is it best/easiest to send shipping requests incrementally or batched
> (eg daily)?
> Is there a VERY simple way to work with an outsourced warehouse (which
> does not use Ofbiz)?
>
> Thanks
> David
>
>
>
Re: Outsourced Warehouse
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
i linked the facility to a vendor
the vendor is linked to the inventory
the inventory is linked to product.
I had to write some code for each vendor to keep inventory in the
facility updated.
kinda crude.
not if you talking about a fulfillment house that is a different story.
David Garrett sent the following on 7/4/2007 6:23 PM:
> Is there a way to configure ofbiz to work with an outsourced warehouse.
>
> If so ...
> Can you point me to the right areas
> How does Ofbiz tell the wharehouse to do the shipment?
> How does the interface to Invoicing and Payments get intitiated?
> How do we sync stock levels?
>
> If not ...
> Are there any suggestions as to how to get it operational?
> Is it best/easiest to send shipping requests incrementally or batched (eg
> daily)?
> Is there a VERY simple way to work with an outsourced warehouse (which does
> not use Ofbiz)?
>
> Thanks
> David
>
>
>