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Posted to dev@netbeans.apache.org by Venus Chung <ve...@quantr.hk> on 2022/01/19 06:34:06 UTC

回覆: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

Dear All,

I made a mistake,I designed the wrong icon, it needs to be redesigned, please give me more time.

Best Regards,
Venus
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寄件者: Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>
寄件日期: 2022年1月18日 下午 11:11
收件者: Peter Cheung <pe...@quantr.hk>; dev@netbeans.apache.org <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
副本: Arafat BOUCHAFRA <ar...@gmail.com>; Peter Cheung <mc...@hotmail.com>; Venus Chung <ve...@quantr.hk>
主旨: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted


Hi, Peter.



Thank you so much for these efforts!! Could we see what the icons look like without Pixel Preview enabled? (View->Pixel Preview in Illustrator)



Might you also send the latest version of the Illustrator file? I'd love to have a look at grid alignments, and see the new icons against the background layer with the old bitmap icons, and at different resolutions etc.



Happy to meet next week. I could do anytime 8am-11am Hong Kong time, for instance. Feel free to pick a day.



Thanks again very much to Venus and you!



-- Eirik

(Now on US east coast time.)



From: Peter Cheung <pe...@quantr.hk>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:45 AM
To: Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>; dev@netbeans.apache.org
Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA <ar...@gmail.com>; Peter Cheung <mc...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted



Dear Eirik & All

    Let's have a wrap-up meeting next week?



Thanks

From Peter (System Architect, Quantr Limited https://www.quantr.hk , Mobile : 96554595)

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From: Peter Cheung <pe...@quantr.hk>
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:36 AM
To: Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>; dev@netbeans.apache.org <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA <ar...@gmail.com>; Peter Cheung <mc...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted



Dear all

    Please see the last three rows, is the style matched?



Thanks

From Peter (System Architect, Quantr Limited https://www.quantr.hk , Mobile : 96554595)

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From: Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 1:17 AM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org <de...@netbeans.apache.org>
Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA <ar...@gmail.com>; Peter Cheung <mc...@hotmail.com>; Peter Cheung <pe...@quantr.hk>
Subject: RE: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted



I think I understand your goal, and this thread now has a good summary of pros and cons.

Again, this is really up to whoever does the icon drawing work. Myself, I have just contributed the icons that happened to be used in my NetBeans Platform app.

Would you be interested in participating in the actual icon drawing process, by the way? Or is the use of Adobe Illustrator a deal-breaker for you? My company could pay for a license.

Alternatively we could try to work out an Inkscape process, if someone wants to commit to drawing a significant number of icons in it (separate from the ones Peter Cheung is working on). Although the lack of an Artboards feature in Inkscape could be a problem.

-- Eirik
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13026411/13026411_210604+Icons+Overview+Cropped.png

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From: Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 11:18 AM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Cc: Arafat BOUCHAFRA <ar...@gmail.com>; Peter Cheung <mc...@hotmail.com>; Peter Cheung <pe...@quantr.hk>
Subject: Re: New theme for netbeans, team member wanted

On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 15:48, Eirik Bakke <eb...@ultorg.com> wrote:
> Sorry, to clarify: The point about the color palette was my own. My argument is that the existing NetBeans icon style is not very well-suited for assigning logical colors. In order to designate a meaningful, configurable, "accent color", for example, we would have to change the overall color palette of the entire icon set. And that's something that's easier to do after-the-fact than up-front (see my earlier explanation for why).

This is where I somewhat disagree, although I think we're talking about different things.

Take 3 different icons - folder, warning, and lightbulb (not sure we have one, but ...)

They might all be the same shade of yellow.  However, maybe you want the folder icons to take on the accent colour of a look and feel, while a dark theme might want to make the shades of the other two a darker yellow, or just the warning to match other things in the theme.

Maybe we want to edit the icon files later - this could apply there as much as in icon loading.

The point was that to have the icons encode the context of a fill colour (eg. CSS class), as well as the colour itself, is potentially useful in multiple ways.  And as far as I'm aware, easier to define upfront in a template for all icons, than later.  At least in Inkscape (I'm a libre graphics person! :-)) I would set up the common stylesheet / palette first, then apply to each shape.

Best wishes,

Neil

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