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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> on 2013/01/20 15:14:54 UTC
Cygwin for Windows
I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not require cygwin
so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a requirement of
most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at different
companies).
Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com>.
+1 to node
On Jan 21, 2013 5:56 PM, "Benn Mapes" <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 Node....
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Josh Soref <js...@rim.com> wrote:
>
> > Fwiw, Mozilla doesn't require Cygwin. And I'm quite glad not to be forced
> > to use it....
> >
> > If you're going to require something, just use Node.js (or whatever JS
> > thing wins).
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andrew Grieve [mailto:agrieve@google.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 9:15 AM
> > > To: dev
> > > Subject: Cygwin for Windows
> > >
> > > I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not require
> > cygwin
> > > so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a requirement
> > of
> > > most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at
> > different
> > > companies).
> >
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Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Benn Mapes <be...@gmail.com>.
+1 Node....
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Josh Soref <js...@rim.com> wrote:
> Fwiw, Mozilla doesn't require Cygwin. And I'm quite glad not to be forced
> to use it....
>
> If you're going to require something, just use Node.js (or whatever JS
> thing wins).
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew Grieve [mailto:agrieve@google.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 9:15 AM
> > To: dev
> > Subject: Cygwin for Windows
> >
> > I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not require
> cygwin
> > so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a requirement
> of
> > most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at
> different
> > companies).
>
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RE: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Josh Soref <js...@rim.com>.
Fwiw, Mozilla doesn't require Cygwin. And I'm quite glad not to be forced to use it....
If you're going to require something, just use Node.js (or whatever JS thing wins).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Grieve [mailto:agrieve@google.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 9:15 AM
> To: dev
> Subject: Cygwin for Windows
>
> I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not require cygwin
> so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a requirement of
> most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at different
> companies).
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Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>.
++
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> +1
>
> On 1/21/13 11:16 AM, "Shazron" <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I would vote for standardizing on node for all our scripts
>>
>>
>>On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, node is already a dependency for the CLI, so why not roll with that
>>> for cross-platform goodness.
>>>
>>> On 1/21/13 7:24 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Yep, I was mostly thinking about Android with this question. There's
>>> >really
>>> >two aspects that it would simplify:
>>> >
>>> >1. Our documentation would not have to worry about windows vs. unix
>>> >2. Our scripts (and upgrade scripts) won't have to be written twice.
>>> >Although maybe if we are making node a requirement (due to CLI yes?)
>>>then
>>> >writing them in node would save us writing them twice. Still, they
>>>would
>>> >need to be tested & tweaks for windows I would assume.
>>> >
>>> >I'm totally fine keeping things as-is. Just thought the question had
>>>to be
>>> >raised :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Kerri Shotts
>>> ><ke...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Yes, please! Descriptive errors would go a long way to making the
>>> >> tools easier to use. At least it would point at a specific reason for
>>> >> failure vs the current vague message.
>>> >>
>>> >> ______________________________
>>> >> Kerri Shotts
>>> >> photoKandy Studios LLC
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> ๐ฑ Phone: +1 (312) 380-1035
>>> >> ๐ Web: http://photokandy.com
>>> >>
>>> >> Twitter: @photokandy
>>> >>
>>> >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 22:14, Simon MacDonald
>>><si...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > -1
>>> >> >
>>> >> > We should just make the windows scripts work better. Needs more
>>> >> descriptive
>>> >> > failures when something is not setup correctly.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Simon Mac Donald
>>> >> > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> -1
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I (and most people) just want to get going and don't like
>>> >>dependencies.
>>> >> >> We're already requiring nodejs for a lot of the stuff we do.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> If you're referring to the Android windows scripts. I believe they
>>> >>work
>>> >> >> fine. If there are any issues with them, people should report them
>>> >>just
>>> >> as
>>> >> >> they would report any other issue.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> There is one outstanding issue on Windows that I will fix next
>>>week.
>>> >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1961
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Kerri Shotts <
>>> kerrishotts@gmail.com
>>> >> >>> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Just my 2ยข: people are already complaining about the number of
>>>parts
>>> >> that
>>> >> >>> need to be installed -- do we really want to add yet another? I
>>> >>realize
>>> >> >> it
>>> >> >>> would make the scripts easier, but the more moving (third party)
>>> >>parts
>>> >> >> that
>>> >> >>> have to be installed prior to using PhoneGap (especially those
>>>that
>>> >> >> aren't
>>> >> >>> required for the platform's SDK), the higher the barrier to
>>>entry.
>>> >>(But
>>> >> >>> then again, maybe that's a good thing...?)
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> ___________________________________
>>> >> >>> Kerri Shotts
>>> >> >>> photoKandy Studios, LLC
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On the Web: http://www.photokandy.com/
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Social Media:
>>> >> >>> Twitter: @photokandy, http://twitter.com/photokandy
>>> >> >>> Tumblr: http://photokandy.tumblr.com/
>>> >> >>> Github: https://github.com/kerrishotts
>>> >> >> https://github.com/organizations/photokandyStudios
>>> >> >>> CoderWall: https://coderwall.com/kerrishotts
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Apps on the Apple Store:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >>https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/photokandy-studios-llc/id498577828
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:14, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com>
>>>wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not
>>> >>require
>>> >> >>> cygwin
>>> >> >>>> so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a
>>> >> requirement
>>> >> >>> of
>>> >> >>>> most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at
>>> >> >>> different
>>> >> >>>> companies).
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com>.
+1
On 1/21/13 11:16 AM, "Shazron" <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I would vote for standardizing on node for all our scripts
>
>
>On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, node is already a dependency for the CLI, so why not roll with that
>> for cross-platform goodness.
>>
>> On 1/21/13 7:24 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>> >Yep, I was mostly thinking about Android with this question. There's
>> >really
>> >two aspects that it would simplify:
>> >
>> >1. Our documentation would not have to worry about windows vs. unix
>> >2. Our scripts (and upgrade scripts) won't have to be written twice.
>> >Although maybe if we are making node a requirement (due to CLI yes?)
>>then
>> >writing them in node would save us writing them twice. Still, they
>>would
>> >need to be tested & tweaks for windows I would assume.
>> >
>> >I'm totally fine keeping things as-is. Just thought the question had
>>to be
>> >raised :)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Kerri Shotts
>> ><ke...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes, please! Descriptive errors would go a long way to making the
>> >> tools easier to use. At least it would point at a specific reason for
>> >> failure vs the current vague message.
>> >>
>> >> ______________________________
>> >> Kerri Shotts
>> >> photoKandy Studios LLC
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> ๐ฑ Phone: +1 (312) 380-1035
>> >> ๐ Web: http://photokandy.com
>> >>
>> >> Twitter: @photokandy
>> >>
>> >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 22:14, Simon MacDonald
>><si...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > -1
>> >> >
>> >> > We should just make the windows scripts work better. Needs more
>> >> descriptive
>> >> > failures when something is not setup correctly.
>> >> >
>> >> > Simon Mac Donald
>> >> > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> -1
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I (and most people) just want to get going and don't like
>> >>dependencies.
>> >> >> We're already requiring nodejs for a lot of the stuff we do.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you're referring to the Android windows scripts. I believe they
>> >>work
>> >> >> fine. If there are any issues with them, people should report them
>> >>just
>> >> as
>> >> >> they would report any other issue.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is one outstanding issue on Windows that I will fix next
>>week.
>> >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1961
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Kerri Shotts <
>> kerrishotts@gmail.com
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Just my 2ยข: people are already complaining about the number of
>>parts
>> >> that
>> >> >>> need to be installed -- do we really want to add yet another? I
>> >>realize
>> >> >> it
>> >> >>> would make the scripts easier, but the more moving (third party)
>> >>parts
>> >> >> that
>> >> >>> have to be installed prior to using PhoneGap (especially those
>>that
>> >> >> aren't
>> >> >>> required for the platform's SDK), the higher the barrier to
>>entry.
>> >>(But
>> >> >>> then again, maybe that's a good thing...?)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> ___________________________________
>> >> >>> Kerri Shotts
>> >> >>> photoKandy Studios, LLC
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On the Web: http://www.photokandy.com/
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Social Media:
>> >> >>> Twitter: @photokandy, http://twitter.com/photokandy
>> >> >>> Tumblr: http://photokandy.tumblr.com/
>> >> >>> Github: https://github.com/kerrishotts
>> >> >> https://github.com/organizations/photokandyStudios
>> >> >>> CoderWall: https://coderwall.com/kerrishotts
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Apps on the Apple Store:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >>https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/photokandy-studios-llc/id498577828
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:14, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com>
>>wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not
>> >>require
>> >> >>> cygwin
>> >> >>>> so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a
>> >> requirement
>> >> >>> of
>> >> >>>> most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at
>> >> >>> different
>> >> >>>> companies).
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Shazron <sh...@gmail.com>.
I would vote for standardizing on node for all our scripts
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com> wrote:
> Yes, node is already a dependency for the CLI, so why not roll with that
> for cross-platform goodness.
>
> On 1/21/13 7:24 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> >Yep, I was mostly thinking about Android with this question. There's
> >really
> >two aspects that it would simplify:
> >
> >1. Our documentation would not have to worry about windows vs. unix
> >2. Our scripts (and upgrade scripts) won't have to be written twice.
> >Although maybe if we are making node a requirement (due to CLI yes?) then
> >writing them in node would save us writing them twice. Still, they would
> >need to be tested & tweaks for windows I would assume.
> >
> >I'm totally fine keeping things as-is. Just thought the question had to be
> >raised :)
> >
> >
> >
> >On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Kerri Shotts
> ><ke...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, please! Descriptive errors would go a long way to making the
> >> tools easier to use. At least it would point at a specific reason for
> >> failure vs the current vague message.
> >>
> >> ______________________________
> >> Kerri Shotts
> >> photoKandy Studios LLC
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> ๐ฑ Phone: +1 (312) 380-1035
> >> ๐ Web: http://photokandy.com
> >>
> >> Twitter: @photokandy
> >>
> >> On Jan 20, 2013, at 22:14, Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > -1
> >> >
> >> > We should just make the windows scripts work better. Needs more
> >> descriptive
> >> > failures when something is not setup correctly.
> >> >
> >> > Simon Mac Donald
> >> > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> -1
> >> >>
> >> >> I (and most people) just want to get going and don't like
> >>dependencies.
> >> >> We're already requiring nodejs for a lot of the stuff we do.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you're referring to the Android windows scripts. I believe they
> >>work
> >> >> fine. If there are any issues with them, people should report them
> >>just
> >> as
> >> >> they would report any other issue.
> >> >>
> >> >> There is one outstanding issue on Windows that I will fix next week.
> >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1961
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Kerri Shotts <
> kerrishotts@gmail.com
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Just my 2ยข: people are already complaining about the number of parts
> >> that
> >> >>> need to be installed -- do we really want to add yet another? I
> >>realize
> >> >> it
> >> >>> would make the scripts easier, but the more moving (third party)
> >>parts
> >> >> that
> >> >>> have to be installed prior to using PhoneGap (especially those that
> >> >> aren't
> >> >>> required for the platform's SDK), the higher the barrier to entry.
> >>(But
> >> >>> then again, maybe that's a good thing...?)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ___________________________________
> >> >>> Kerri Shotts
> >> >>> photoKandy Studios, LLC
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On the Web: http://www.photokandy.com/
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Social Media:
> >> >>> Twitter: @photokandy, http://twitter.com/photokandy
> >> >>> Tumblr: http://photokandy.tumblr.com/
> >> >>> Github: https://github.com/kerrishotts
> >> >> https://github.com/organizations/photokandyStudios
> >> >>> CoderWall: https://coderwall.com/kerrishotts
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Apps on the Apple Store:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >>https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/photokandy-studios-llc/id498577828
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:14, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not
> >>require
> >> >>> cygwin
> >> >>>> so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a
> >> requirement
> >> >>> of
> >> >>>> most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at
> >> >>> different
> >> >>>> companies).
> >> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com>.
I think we have someone internally here who will look at making the create
script more descriptive when errors occur. One thing Don Coleman mentioned
a while back and I haven't yet responded (sorry Don) is to have a script
that checks the dependencies and downloads/installs everything you need to
get going.
I've been working with another open source project lately that does just
that. It would be an interesting area to look at.
Simon Mac Donald
http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>wrote:
> Yep, I was mostly thinking about Android with this question. There's really
> two aspects that it would simplify:
>
> 1. Our documentation would not have to worry about windows vs. unix
> 2. Our scripts (and upgrade scripts) won't have to be written twice.
> Although maybe if we are making node a requirement (due to CLI yes?) then
> writing them in node would save us writing them twice. Still, they would
> need to be tested & tweaks for windows I would assume.
>
> I'm totally fine keeping things as-is. Just thought the question had to be
> raised :)
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Kerri Shotts <kerrishotts@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Yes, please! Descriptive errors would go a long way to making the
> > tools easier to use. At least it would point at a specific reason for
> > failure vs the current vague message.
> >
> > ______________________________
> > Kerri Shotts
> > photoKandy Studios LLC
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > ๐ฑ Phone: +1 (312) 380-1035
> > ๐ Web: http://photokandy.com
> >
> > Twitter: @photokandy
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2013, at 22:14, Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > -1
> > >
> > > We should just make the windows scripts work better. Needs more
> > descriptive
> > > failures when something is not setup correctly.
> > >
> > > Simon Mac Donald
> > > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> -1
> > >>
> > >> I (and most people) just want to get going and don't like
> dependencies.
> > >> We're already requiring nodejs for a lot of the stuff we do.
> > >>
> > >> If you're referring to the Android windows scripts. I believe they
> work
> > >> fine. If there are any issues with them, people should report them
> just
> > as
> > >> they would report any other issue.
> > >>
> > >> There is one outstanding issue on Windows that I will fix next week.
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1961
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Kerri Shotts <kerrishotts@gmail.com
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Just my 2ยข: people are already complaining about the number of parts
> > that
> > >>> need to be installed -- do we really want to add yet another? I
> realize
> > >> it
> > >>> would make the scripts easier, but the more moving (third party)
> parts
> > >> that
> > >>> have to be installed prior to using PhoneGap (especially those that
> > >> aren't
> > >>> required for the platform's SDK), the higher the barrier to entry.
> (But
> > >>> then again, maybe that's a good thing...?)
> > >>>
> > >>> ___________________________________
> > >>> Kerri Shotts
> > >>> photoKandy Studios, LLC
> > >>>
> > >>> On the Web: http://www.photokandy.com/
> > >>>
> > >>> Social Media:
> > >>> Twitter: @photokandy, http://twitter.com/photokandy
> > >>> Tumblr: http://photokandy.tumblr.com/
> > >>> Github: https://github.com/kerrishotts
> > >> https://github.com/organizations/photokandyStudios
> > >>> CoderWall: https://coderwall.com/kerrishotts
> > >>>
> > >>> Apps on the Apple Store:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/photokandy-studios-llc/id498577828
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:14, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not require
> > >>> cygwin
> > >>>> so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a
> > requirement
> > >>> of
> > >>>> most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at
> > >>> different
> > >>>> companies).
> > >>
> >
>
Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Filip Maj <fi...@adobe.com>.
Yes, node is already a dependency for the CLI, so why not roll with that
for cross-platform goodness.
On 1/21/13 7:24 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <ag...@chromium.org> wrote:
>Yep, I was mostly thinking about Android with this question. There's
>really
>two aspects that it would simplify:
>
>1. Our documentation would not have to worry about windows vs. unix
>2. Our scripts (and upgrade scripts) won't have to be written twice.
>Although maybe if we are making node a requirement (due to CLI yes?) then
>writing them in node would save us writing them twice. Still, they would
>need to be tested & tweaks for windows I would assume.
>
>I'm totally fine keeping things as-is. Just thought the question had to be
>raised :)
>
>
>
>On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Kerri Shotts
><ke...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yes, please! Descriptive errors would go a long way to making the
>> tools easier to use. At least it would point at a specific reason for
>> failure vs the current vague message.
>>
>> ______________________________
>> Kerri Shotts
>> photoKandy Studios LLC
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> ๐ฑ Phone: +1 (312) 380-1035
>> ๐ Web: http://photokandy.com
>>
>> Twitter: @photokandy
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 22:14, Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > -1
>> >
>> > We should just make the windows scripts work better. Needs more
>> descriptive
>> > failures when something is not setup correctly.
>> >
>> > Simon Mac Donald
>> > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> -1
>> >>
>> >> I (and most people) just want to get going and don't like
>>dependencies.
>> >> We're already requiring nodejs for a lot of the stuff we do.
>> >>
>> >> If you're referring to the Android windows scripts. I believe they
>>work
>> >> fine. If there are any issues with them, people should report them
>>just
>> as
>> >> they would report any other issue.
>> >>
>> >> There is one outstanding issue on Windows that I will fix next week.
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1961
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Kerri Shotts <kerrishotts@gmail.com
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Just my 2ยข: people are already complaining about the number of parts
>> that
>> >>> need to be installed -- do we really want to add yet another? I
>>realize
>> >> it
>> >>> would make the scripts easier, but the more moving (third party)
>>parts
>> >> that
>> >>> have to be installed prior to using PhoneGap (especially those that
>> >> aren't
>> >>> required for the platform's SDK), the higher the barrier to entry.
>>(But
>> >>> then again, maybe that's a good thing...?)
>> >>>
>> >>> ___________________________________
>> >>> Kerri Shotts
>> >>> photoKandy Studios, LLC
>> >>>
>> >>> On the Web: http://www.photokandy.com/
>> >>>
>> >>> Social Media:
>> >>> Twitter: @photokandy, http://twitter.com/photokandy
>> >>> Tumblr: http://photokandy.tumblr.com/
>> >>> Github: https://github.com/kerrishotts
>> >> https://github.com/organizations/photokandyStudios
>> >>> CoderWall: https://coderwall.com/kerrishotts
>> >>>
>> >>> Apps on the Apple Store:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/photokandy-studios-llc/id498577828
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:14, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not
>>require
>> >>> cygwin
>> >>>> so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a
>> requirement
>> >>> of
>> >>>> most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at
>> >>> different
>> >>>> companies).
>> >>
>>
Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Andrew Grieve <ag...@chromium.org>.
Yep, I was mostly thinking about Android with this question. There's really
two aspects that it would simplify:
1. Our documentation would not have to worry about windows vs. unix
2. Our scripts (and upgrade scripts) won't have to be written twice.
Although maybe if we are making node a requirement (due to CLI yes?) then
writing them in node would save us writing them twice. Still, they would
need to be tested & tweaks for windows I would assume.
I'm totally fine keeping things as-is. Just thought the question had to be
raised :)
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Kerri Shotts <ke...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Yes, please! Descriptive errors would go a long way to making the
> tools easier to use. At least it would point at a specific reason for
> failure vs the current vague message.
>
> ______________________________
> Kerri Shotts
> photoKandy Studios LLC
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> ๐ฑ Phone: +1 (312) 380-1035
> ๐ Web: http://photokandy.com
>
> Twitter: @photokandy
>
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 22:14, Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > -1
> >
> > We should just make the windows scripts work better. Needs more
> descriptive
> > failures when something is not setup correctly.
> >
> > Simon Mac Donald
> > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> -1
> >>
> >> I (and most people) just want to get going and don't like dependencies.
> >> We're already requiring nodejs for a lot of the stuff we do.
> >>
> >> If you're referring to the Android windows scripts. I believe they work
> >> fine. If there are any issues with them, people should report them just
> as
> >> they would report any other issue.
> >>
> >> There is one outstanding issue on Windows that I will fix next week.
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1961
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Kerri Shotts <kerrishotts@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just my 2ยข: people are already complaining about the number of parts
> that
> >>> need to be installed -- do we really want to add yet another? I realize
> >> it
> >>> would make the scripts easier, but the more moving (third party) parts
> >> that
> >>> have to be installed prior to using PhoneGap (especially those that
> >> aren't
> >>> required for the platform's SDK), the higher the barrier to entry. (But
> >>> then again, maybe that's a good thing...?)
> >>>
> >>> ___________________________________
> >>> Kerri Shotts
> >>> photoKandy Studios, LLC
> >>>
> >>> On the Web: http://www.photokandy.com/
> >>>
> >>> Social Media:
> >>> Twitter: @photokandy, http://twitter.com/photokandy
> >>> Tumblr: http://photokandy.tumblr.com/
> >>> Github: https://github.com/kerrishotts
> >> https://github.com/organizations/photokandyStudios
> >>> CoderWall: https://coderwall.com/kerrishotts
> >>>
> >>> Apps on the Apple Store:
> >>>
> >>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/photokandy-studios-llc/id498577828
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:14, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not require
> >>> cygwin
> >>>> so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a
> requirement
> >>> of
> >>>> most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at
> >>> different
> >>>> companies).
> >>
>
Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Kerri Shotts <ke...@gmail.com>.
Yes, please! Descriptive errors would go a long way to making the
tools easier to use. At least it would point at a specific reason for
failure vs the current vague message.
______________________________
Kerri Shotts
photoKandy Studios LLC
Sent from my iPhone
๐ฑ Phone: +1 (312) 380-1035
๐ Web: http://photokandy.com
Twitter: @photokandy
On Jan 20, 2013, at 22:14, Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com> wrote:
> -1
>
> We should just make the windows scripts work better. Needs more descriptive
> failures when something is not setup correctly.
>
> Simon Mac Donald
> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> -1
>>
>> I (and most people) just want to get going and don't like dependencies.
>> We're already requiring nodejs for a lot of the stuff we do.
>>
>> If you're referring to the Android windows scripts. I believe they work
>> fine. If there are any issues with them, people should report them just as
>> they would report any other issue.
>>
>> There is one outstanding issue on Windows that I will fix next week.
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1961
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Kerri Shotts <kerrishotts@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just my 2ยข: people are already complaining about the number of parts that
>>> need to be installed -- do we really want to add yet another? I realize
>> it
>>> would make the scripts easier, but the more moving (third party) parts
>> that
>>> have to be installed prior to using PhoneGap (especially those that
>> aren't
>>> required for the platform's SDK), the higher the barrier to entry. (But
>>> then again, maybe that's a good thing...?)
>>>
>>> ___________________________________
>>> Kerri Shotts
>>> photoKandy Studios, LLC
>>>
>>> On the Web: http://www.photokandy.com/
>>>
>>> Social Media:
>>> Twitter: @photokandy, http://twitter.com/photokandy
>>> Tumblr: http://photokandy.tumblr.com/
>>> Github: https://github.com/kerrishotts
>> https://github.com/organizations/photokandyStudios
>>> CoderWall: https://coderwall.com/kerrishotts
>>>
>>> Apps on the Apple Store:
>>>
>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/photokandy-studios-llc/id498577828
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:14, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not require
>>> cygwin
>>>> so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a requirement
>>> of
>>>> most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at
>>> different
>>>> companies).
>>
Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Simon MacDonald <si...@gmail.com>.
-1
We should just make the windows scripts work better. Needs more descriptive
failures when something is not setup correctly.
Simon Mac Donald
http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> -1
>
> I (and most people) just want to get going and don't like dependencies.
> We're already requiring nodejs for a lot of the stuff we do.
>
> If you're referring to the Android windows scripts. I believe they work
> fine. If there are any issues with them, people should report them just as
> they would report any other issue.
>
> There is one outstanding issue on Windows that I will fix next week.
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1961
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Kerri Shotts <kerrishotts@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Just my 2ยข: people are already complaining about the number of parts that
> > need to be installed -- do we really want to add yet another? I realize
> it
> > would make the scripts easier, but the more moving (third party) parts
> that
> > have to be installed prior to using PhoneGap (especially those that
> aren't
> > required for the platform's SDK), the higher the barrier to entry. (But
> > then again, maybe that's a good thing...?)
> >
> > ___________________________________
> > Kerri Shotts
> > photoKandy Studios, LLC
> >
> > On the Web: http://www.photokandy.com/
> >
> > Social Media:
> > Twitter: @photokandy, http://twitter.com/photokandy
> > Tumblr: http://photokandy.tumblr.com/
> > Github: https://github.com/kerrishotts
> >
> https://github.com/organizations/photokandyStudios
> > CoderWall: https://coderwall.com/kerrishotts
> >
> > Apps on the Apple Store:
> >
> > https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/photokandy-studios-llc/id498577828
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:14, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not require
> > cygwin
> > > so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a requirement
> > of
> > > most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at
> > different
> > > companies).
> >
>
Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Anis KADRI <an...@gmail.com>.
-1
I (and most people) just want to get going and don't like dependencies.
We're already requiring nodejs for a lot of the stuff we do.
If you're referring to the Android windows scripts. I believe they work
fine. If there are any issues with them, people should report them just as
they would report any other issue.
There is one outstanding issue on Windows that I will fix next week.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-1961
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Kerri Shotts <ke...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Just my 2ยข: people are already complaining about the number of parts that
> need to be installed -- do we really want to add yet another? I realize it
> would make the scripts easier, but the more moving (third party) parts that
> have to be installed prior to using PhoneGap (especially those that aren't
> required for the platform's SDK), the higher the barrier to entry. (But
> then again, maybe that's a good thing...?)
>
> ___________________________________
> Kerri Shotts
> photoKandy Studios, LLC
>
> On the Web: http://www.photokandy.com/
>
> Social Media:
> Twitter: @photokandy, http://twitter.com/photokandy
> Tumblr: http://photokandy.tumblr.com/
> Github: https://github.com/kerrishotts
> https://github.com/organizations/photokandyStudios
> CoderWall: https://coderwall.com/kerrishotts
>
> Apps on the Apple Store:
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/photokandy-studios-llc/id498577828
>
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:14, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not require
> cygwin
> > so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a requirement
> of
> > most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at
> different
> > companies).
>
Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Kerri Shotts <ke...@gmail.com>.
Just my 2ยข: people are already complaining about the number of parts that need to be installed -- do we really want to add yet another? I realize it would make the scripts easier, but the more moving (third party) parts that have to be installed prior to using PhoneGap (especially those that aren't required for the platform's SDK), the higher the barrier to entry. (But then again, maybe that's a good thing...?)
___________________________________
Kerri Shotts
photoKandy Studios, LLC
On the Web: http://www.photokandy.com/
Social Media:
Twitter: @photokandy, http://twitter.com/photokandy
Tumblr: http://photokandy.tumblr.com/
Github: https://github.com/kerrishotts
https://github.com/organizations/photokandyStudios
CoderWall: https://coderwall.com/kerrishotts
Apps on the Apple Store:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/photokandy-studios-llc/id498577828
On Jan 20, 2013, at 8:14, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> wrote:
> I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not require cygwin
> so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a requirement of
> most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at different
> companies).
Re: Cygwin for Windows
Posted by Gord Tanner <gt...@gmail.com>.
+1
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-01-20, at 9:14 AM, Andrew Grieve <ag...@google.com> wrote:
> I'm sure this has come up some time in the past, but why not require cygwin
> so that our scripts will work on windows? Cygwin has been a requirement of
> most of the windows projects I've worked on in the past (when at different
> companies).