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Markers in areas
Hi,
does somebody need the markers attached to an area? I just canned them,
as well as another array atteched to areas (lineage pairs). Markers
were only used in the XML renderer. They ought to have uses to implement
retrieve-positions first-include-carryover and last-ending-within-page,
but they didn't get used for this.
Objections?
J.Pietschmann
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Re: Markers in areas
Posted by "Peter B. West" <pb...@powerup.com.au>.
Arved Sandstrom wrote:
> Joerg, you can freely get rid of that stuff. I originally introduced it when
> I had more faith in the spec, and thought that the authors knew what they
> were talking about when it came to to their math. Specifically, the lineage
> pairs is an abstract concept that I can see no implementation use for. In
> fact, I can't see any theoretical use for the idea either.
Arved,
I'm glad that I am not the only one who could see no purpose in the
discussion of "lineage". However, I'd like your comments on a couple of
aspects of lineage.
The first of the two parts of the definition:
<quote>A set of nodes in a tree is a lineage if:
* there is a node N in the set such that all the nodes in the set
are ancestors of N, and
</quote>
This seems a strange.
<quote>Normal areas represent areas in the "normal flow of text"; that
is, they become area children of the areas generated by the formatting
object to which they are returned. Normal areas have a returned-by
lineage of size one.</quote>
I wondered about the point of all this, but in looking at the Errata, I
found a series of modifications for the description of 'Areas' in the
description of fo:bidi-override, fo:inline and fo:basic-link as follows:
<quote>Section 6.6.2
Replace:
in the "Areas:" portion "returns these areas, any page-level-out-of-line
areas, and any reference-level-out-of-line areas returned by the children"
with
"returns these areas, together with any normal block-areas,
page-level-out-of-line areas, and reference-level-out-of-line areas
returned by the children"</quote>
It seesm to me that these changes create normal block areas with a
lineage with size greater than one.
What do you think?
--
Peter B. West pbwest@powerup.com.au http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/
"Lord, to whom shall we go?"
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Re: Markers in areas
Posted by "J.Pietschmann" <j3...@yahoo.de>.
Mark C. Allman wrote:
> ... but markers will continue to work as per the XSLFO spec, correct?
There are restrictions (and have always been). Look into the CHANGES
file.
J.Pietschmann
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RE: Markers in areas
Posted by "Mark C. Allman" <mc...@allmanpc.com>.
... but markers will continue to work as per the XSLFO spec, correct?
We depend on markers for dynamic page headings.
-- Mark C. Allman
-- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc.
-- www.allmanpc.com, 617-947-4263
-----Original Message-----
From: J.Pietschmann [mailto:j3322ptm@yahoo.de]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:09 PM
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Subject: Re: Markers in areas
Arved Sandstrom wrote:
> Joerg, you can freely get rid of that stuff.
Great!
Anybody out there bothering to profile the new code? Two
objects less created per Area, this should be noticable!
J.Pietschmann
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Re: Markers in areas
Posted by "J.Pietschmann" <j3...@yahoo.de>.
Arved Sandstrom wrote:
> Joerg, you can freely get rid of that stuff.
Great!
Anybody out there bothering to profile the new code? Two
objects less created per Area, this should be noticable!
J.Pietschmann
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RE: Markers in areas
Posted by Arved Sandstrom <Ar...@chebucto.ns.ca>.
Joerg, you can freely get rid of that stuff. I originally introduced it when
I had more faith in the spec, and thought that the authors knew what they
were talking about when it came to to their math. Specifically, the lineage
pairs is an abstract concept that I can see no implementation use for. In
fact, I can't see any theoretical use for the idea either.
Arved
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J.Pietschmann [mailto:j3322ptm@yahoo.de]
> Sent: February 16, 2003 8:14 PM
> To: fop-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Markers in areas
>
>
> Hi,
> does somebody need the markers attached to an area? I just canned them,
> as well as another array atteched to areas (lineage pairs). Markers
> were only used in the XML renderer. They ought to have uses to implement
> retrieve-positions first-include-carryover and last-ending-within-page,
> but they didn't get used for this.
>
> Objections?
>
> J.Pietschmann
>
>
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