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[RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

Hi everyone,

The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds with only +1 votes from
Martijn, Emmanuel, Bernd, Niklas, Tommaso, Bertrand, Chris, Ralph,
Christian, Noel, Luciano, Alan, Upayavira, Ross, Benson, Craig, Greg,
William (binding)
and Andreas Kuckartz, Kalle Korhonen, Henry Saputra (non-binding).
Please review the tally and correct it if neccessary.

Thanks for voting.

I sincerly hope that Bluesky will nevertheless become open source
somewhere in the OSS universe.


  Bernd


On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:49, berndf <be...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
>
> 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
> becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
> developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public
> lists. Mentors are M.I.A. Reports are often late. No Apache release was
> every made.
>
> There were multiple attempts to reboot the podling (Thanks Luciano!)
> without much success.
>
> So now I'm calling a vote to end Incubation for Bluesky.
> The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC.
>
> [] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being
> [] -0/+0, I'm undecided
> [] -1, I will step up as a mentor, so let's give it another try
>
> Thanks for voting,
>
>  Bernd
>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Oh, my bad, didn't notice that part. In that case your suggestion to
go to Google code is better and more appropriate.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Christian Grobmeier
<gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It still exists:
> http://apache-extras.org/
>
> Please see:
> http://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html
>
> "Apache Extras has been established for projects that don't want to,
> or are unable to be a formal part of the Apache Software Foundation
> but still wish to demonstrate their affinity to one ore more official
> Apache project."
>
> To which project could Bluesky demonstrate affinity?
>
>
> Christian
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
> <no...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Can they upload it to Apache-Extras if it still exists ?
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> If bluesky project was rejected by ASF?
>>>> would we continue to use SVN to upload our codes?
>>>
>>> Not the ASF SVN server.
>>>
>>> But you can use for example google code to host bluesky and upload to
>>> there svn servers:
>>> http://code.google.com/hosting/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/7/6 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds with only +1 votes from
>>>>> Martijn, Emmanuel, Bernd, Niklas, Tommaso, Bertrand, Chris, Ralph,
>>>>> Christian, Noel, Luciano, Alan, Upayavira, Ross, Benson, Craig, Greg,
>>>>> William (binding)
>>>>> and Andreas Kuckartz, Kalle Korhonen, Henry Saputra (non-binding).
>>>>> Please review the tally and correct it if neccessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for voting.
>>>>>
>>>>> I sincerly hope that Bluesky will nevertheless become open source
>>>>> somewhere in the OSS universe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Bernd
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:49, berndf <be...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi everyone,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
>>>>> > becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
>>>>> > developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public
>>>>> > lists. Mentors are M.I.A. Reports are often late. No Apache release was
>>>>> > every made.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > There were multiple attempts to reboot the podling (Thanks Luciano!)
>>>>> > without much success.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So now I'm calling a vote to end Incubation for Bluesky.
>>>>> > The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > [] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being
>>>>> > [] -0/+0, I'm undecided
>>>>> > [] -1, I will step up as a mentor, so let's give it another try
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks for voting,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Bernd
>>>>> >
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>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks
>> - Mohammad Nour
>>   Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide)
>>   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
>> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
>> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
>> ----
>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
>> - Albert Einstein
>>
>> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
>> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
>> than your best."
>> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
>>
>> "Stay hungry, stay foolish."
>> - Steve Jobs
>>
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- Mohammad Nour
  Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide)
  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
- Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
----
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- Albert Einstein

"Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
than your best."
- Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
It still exists:
http://apache-extras.org/

Please see:
http://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html

"Apache Extras has been established for projects that don't want to,
or are unable to be a formal part of the Apache Software Foundation
but still wish to demonstrate their affinity to one ore more official
Apache project."

To which project could Bluesky demonstrate affinity?


Christian

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
<no...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can they upload it to Apache-Extras if it still exists ?
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> If bluesky project was rejected by ASF?
>>> would we continue to use SVN to upload our codes?
>>
>> Not the ASF SVN server.
>>
>> But you can use for example google code to host bluesky and upload to
>> there svn servers:
>> http://code.google.com/hosting/
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> 2011/7/6 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds with only +1 votes from
>>>> Martijn, Emmanuel, Bernd, Niklas, Tommaso, Bertrand, Chris, Ralph,
>>>> Christian, Noel, Luciano, Alan, Upayavira, Ross, Benson, Craig, Greg,
>>>> William (binding)
>>>> and Andreas Kuckartz, Kalle Korhonen, Henry Saputra (non-binding).
>>>> Please review the tally and correct it if neccessary.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for voting.
>>>>
>>>> I sincerly hope that Bluesky will nevertheless become open source
>>>> somewhere in the OSS universe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Bernd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:49, berndf <be...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> > Hi everyone,
>>>> >
>>>> > this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
>>>> >
>>>> > 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
>>>> > becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
>>>> > developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public
>>>> > lists. Mentors are M.I.A. Reports are often late. No Apache release was
>>>> > every made.
>>>> >
>>>> > There were multiple attempts to reboot the podling (Thanks Luciano!)
>>>> > without much success.
>>>> >
>>>> > So now I'm calling a vote to end Incubation for Bluesky.
>>>> > The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC.
>>>> >
>>>> > [] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being
>>>> > [] -0/+0, I'm undecided
>>>> > [] -1, I will step up as a mentor, so let's give it another try
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for voting,
>>>> >
>>>> >  Bernd
>>>> >
>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
>   Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide)
>   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
> - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>
> "Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
> professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
> than your best."
> - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship
>
> "Stay hungry, stay foolish."
> - Steve Jobs
>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Can they upload it to Apache-Extras if it still exists ?

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Christian Grobmeier
<gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> If bluesky project was rejected by ASF?
>> would we continue to use SVN to upload our codes?
>
> Not the ASF SVN server.
>
> But you can use for example google code to host bluesky and upload to
> there svn servers:
> http://code.google.com/hosting/
>
>
>
>>
>> 2011/7/6 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds with only +1 votes from
>>> Martijn, Emmanuel, Bernd, Niklas, Tommaso, Bertrand, Chris, Ralph,
>>> Christian, Noel, Luciano, Alan, Upayavira, Ross, Benson, Craig, Greg,
>>> William (binding)
>>> and Andreas Kuckartz, Kalle Korhonen, Henry Saputra (non-binding).
>>> Please review the tally and correct it if neccessary.
>>>
>>> Thanks for voting.
>>>
>>> I sincerly hope that Bluesky will nevertheless become open source
>>> somewhere in the OSS universe.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Bernd
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:49, berndf <be...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> > Hi everyone,
>>> >
>>> > this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
>>> >
>>> > 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
>>> > becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
>>> > developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public
>>> > lists. Mentors are M.I.A. Reports are often late. No Apache release was
>>> > every made.
>>> >
>>> > There were multiple attempts to reboot the podling (Thanks Luciano!)
>>> > without much success.
>>> >
>>> > So now I'm calling a vote to end Incubation for Bluesky.
>>> > The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC.
>>> >
>>> > [] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being
>>> > [] -0/+0, I'm undecided
>>> > [] -1, I will step up as a mentor, so let's give it another try
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for voting,
>>> >
>>> >  Bernd
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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>>>
>>
>
>
>
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Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
  Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide)
  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html
- LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour
- Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

"Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a
professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less
than your best."
- Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship

"Stay hungry, stay foolish."
- Steve Jobs

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
> If bluesky project was rejected by ASF?
> would we continue to use SVN to upload our codes?

Not the ASF SVN server.

But you can use for example google code to host bluesky and upload to
there svn servers:
http://code.google.com/hosting/



>
> 2011/7/6 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds with only +1 votes from
>> Martijn, Emmanuel, Bernd, Niklas, Tommaso, Bertrand, Chris, Ralph,
>> Christian, Noel, Luciano, Alan, Upayavira, Ross, Benson, Craig, Greg,
>> William (binding)
>> and Andreas Kuckartz, Kalle Korhonen, Henry Saputra (non-binding).
>> Please review the tally and correct it if neccessary.
>>
>> Thanks for voting.
>>
>> I sincerly hope that Bluesky will nevertheless become open source
>> somewhere in the OSS universe.
>>
>>
>>  Bernd
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:49, berndf <be...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
>> >
>> > 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
>> > becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
>> > developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public
>> > lists. Mentors are M.I.A. Reports are often late. No Apache release was
>> > every made.
>> >
>> > There were multiple attempts to reboot the podling (Thanks Luciano!)
>> > without much success.
>> >
>> > So now I'm calling a vote to end Incubation for Bluesky.
>> > The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC.
>> >
>> > [] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being
>> > [] -0/+0, I'm undecided
>> > [] -1, I will step up as a mentor, so let's give it another try
>> >
>> > Thanks for voting,
>> >
>> >  Bernd
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>> >
>> >
>>
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling

Posted by Chen Liu <li...@gmail.com>.
hi, all,
If bluesky project was rejected by ASF?
would we continue to use SVN to upload our codes?

2011/7/6 Bernd Fondermann <be...@googlemail.com>

> Hi everyone,
>
> The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds with only +1 votes from
> Martijn, Emmanuel, Bernd, Niklas, Tommaso, Bertrand, Chris, Ralph,
> Christian, Noel, Luciano, Alan, Upayavira, Ross, Benson, Craig, Greg,
> William (binding)
> and Andreas Kuckartz, Kalle Korhonen, Henry Saputra (non-binding).
> Please review the tally and correct it if neccessary.
>
> Thanks for voting.
>
> I sincerly hope that Bluesky will nevertheless become open source
> somewhere in the OSS universe.
>
>
>  Bernd
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:49, berndf <be...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling.
> >
> > 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of
> > becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and
> > developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public
> > lists. Mentors are M.I.A. Reports are often late. No Apache release was
> > every made.
> >
> > There were multiple attempts to reboot the podling (Thanks Luciano!)
> > without much success.
> >
> > So now I'm calling a vote to end Incubation for Bluesky.
> > The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC.
> >
> > [] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being
> > [] -0/+0, I'm undecided
> > [] -1, I will step up as a mentor, so let's give it another try
> >
> > Thanks for voting,
> >
> >  Bernd
> >
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> >
> >
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