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Posted to embperl@perl.apache.org by Gerald Richter <ri...@ecos.de> on 2002/05/02 21:13:35 UTC
Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
Hi,
as every year O'Reilly OpenSource Convention takes place in summer (July
22-26, 2002 -- San Diego, CA ) and as in the last years there should be also
a talk about Embperl. So I have submitted my proposal and the talk was
accepted, but unlike as in the last years O'Reilly has no funding for the
speakers. That mean that I would have to pay the flight from Germany to the
US, the hotel etc. on my own. That is more then it is possible for me. So I
can't go to the conference this year :-(, but I really like to see the
Embperl talk happen.
So now I am searching somebody who like to talk about Embperl at the OSCON
2002. You get free entrace as speaker (that saves you $1000) and the fame
:-) Of course if anybody likes to do the job, I will assist in prepareing
the talk as much as possible.
It would be really great if somebody could do the talk for me!
Gerald
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Re: [OT] European meeting of Embperl users ???
Posted by Gerald Richter - ecos gmbh <ri...@ecos.de>.
>
>
> Those meetings are great but it's still a bit too expensive to fly to
> California for some Europeans. Anybody knows about similar event in
> Europe?
>
Leon and Axel already gives the addresses. Embperl is was present at the two
Leon pointed out.
> BTW We could organize a little Embperl users meeting here in Prague...
> It's reasonably cheap and quite close to Gerald... It shouldn't be hard
> to arrange for decent hotel and some conference facilities here. If
> anybody's interested (Gerald?) we can start some planning. What I have
> in mind is rather informal say two days meeting, couple of talks and a
> lot of socializing (Czech bier is supposed to be rather good ;-) How
> does it sound?
>
Oh, I always wanted to vist prague. (I have been there when I was 5 years
old, but I don't remember anything).
Basicly I think this would be a good idea. The question is, are there eoungh
people interested in comeing to a pure Embperl meeting, so that it would be
worth the effort? Or are there enough other european Perl meetings, so that
another is too much?
Gerald
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Re: [OT] European meeting of Embperl users ???
Posted by Axel Beckert - ecos gmbh <be...@ecos.de>.
Hi!
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 08:45:39AM +0200, Robert wrote:
> Those meetings are great but it's still a bit too expensive to fly
> to California for some Europeans.
Ack.
> Anybody knows about similar event in Europe?
Yep, there are quite a lot conferences and meetings around Open Source
Software in Europe. Those are the next ones I know, although perhaps
not the same taste as OSCON (which I haven't experienced yet :-)...
+ LinuxTag: Jun 6-9, 2002, Karlsruhe, half fair, half conference
(http://www.linuxtag.org/2002/), the favourite Linux event of most
Linuxers in Europe. Interesting talks, interesting people.
+ International Linux System Technology Conference: Sep, 4-6, 2002,
Cologne (http://www.linux-kongress.org/2002/)
+ YAPC::Europe: Yet Another PERL Conference Europe, Sep 18-20, 2002,
Munich (http://www.yapc.org/Europe/2002/)
+ LinuxWorld Conference & Expo: Oct, 29-31, 2002, Frankfurt/Main, more
business orientated (http://www.linuxworldexpo.de/)
+ German PERL Workshop: Mar, 5-7, 2003, Bonn
(http://www.perlworkshop.de/2003/)
There are other OS Conferences, of which I don't know the date or
which have already been:
+ ApacheCon Europe: Next date unknown, last fell through because of
lacking sponsors IIRC (http://apachecon.com/)
+ Annual Open Source Content Management Systems Conference (OSCMSC):
Last one was at Zürich (http://www.oscom.org/conferences/zurich2002/),
next one unfortunately will be in San Francisco, the second-next
will probably be held in Japan.
+ Linux-Expo: OK, this is definitely more fair and exhibition than
conference, it's every few months somewhere else, mainly in Europe
(http://www.linux-expo.com/), not really my world.
> BTW We could organize a little Embperl users meeting here in
> Prague... It's reasonably cheap and quite close to Gerald... It
> shouldn't be hard to arrange for decent hotel and some conference
> facilities here. If anybody's interested (Gerald?) we can start some
> planning. What I have in mind is rather informal say two days
> meeting, couple of talks and a lot of socializing
Doesn't sound that bad. I really wonder, how many people would be
interested.
> (Czech bier is supposed to be rather good ;-)
... and cheap! :-) Unfortunately I don't like beer... ;-)
> How does it sound?
Regards, Axel Beckert
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Re: [OT] European meeting of Embperl users ???
Posted by Leon Brocard <ac...@astray.com>.
Robert sent the following bits through the ether:
> Those meetings are great but it's still a bit too expensive to fly to
> California for some Europeans. Anybody knows about similar event in
> Europe?
http://www.perlworkshop.de/
http://www.yapc.org/Europe/
HTH, Leon
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[OT] European meeting of Embperl users ???
Posted by Robert <ro...@robert.cz>.
Gerald Richter wrote:
>
> as every year O'Reilly OpenSource Convention takes place in summer (July
> 22-26, 2002 -- San Diego, CA ) and as in the last years there should be also
> a talk about Embperl. So I have submitted my proposal and the talk was
> accepted, but unlike as in the last years O'Reilly has no funding for the
> speakers. That mean that I would have to pay the flight from Germany to the
> US, the hotel etc. on my own. That is more then it is possible for me. So I
> can't go to the conference this year :-(, but I really like to see the
> Embperl talk happen.
Those meetings are great but it's still a bit too expensive to fly to
California for some Europeans. Anybody knows about similar event in
Europe?
BTW We could organize a little Embperl users meeting here in Prague...
It's reasonably cheap and quite close to Gerald... It shouldn't be hard
to arrange for decent hotel and some conference facilities here. If
anybody's interested (Gerald?) we can start some planning. What I have
in mind is rather informal say two days meeting, couple of talks and a
lot of socializing (Czech bier is supposed to be rather good ;-) How
does it sound?
- Robert
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
Posted by Andrew O'Brien <an...@switchonline.com.au>.
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 02:18:01PM -0700, Lara J. Fabans wrote:
> How about we just hold a bake sale to send Gerald to San Diego?
> Set up an account on paypal. I'll donate $50 to get it started.
Indeed. How many people here are running commercial websites with
embperl or making money using embperl? It's only fair to contribute
back when there's a need!
Gerald - looks like you need to set up that paypal account and give us
a target :)
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
Posted by Cameron McBride <ca...@cwru.edu>.
> How about we just hold a bake sale to send Gerald to San Diego?
> Set up an account on paypal. I'll donate $50 to get it started.
If I could go to OSCON, I would bribe the wife to start cooking (I can't
pay people to eat my creations) -- but alas I cannot.
I would be willing to chip in some change that way -- if an account was
set up. ;-)
Cameron
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
Posted by Gerald Richter <ri...@ecos.de>.
Chris,
>
> set-up a paypal account so we can make our contributions.
We first gather who would like to give something at
http://www.somewhere.com/pledge/. If we get enoungh money togehter I create
the paypal account. In this way we avoid extra work, in case we don't get
enough money, in which case I would need to transfer it back to all the
people...
> we are ready, willing and able to "give back".
>
Thanks very much
Gerald
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
Posted by ___cliff rayman___ <cl...@genwax.com>.
gerald,
set-up a paypal account so we can make our contributions.
we are ready, willing and able to "give back".
cliff
"Lara J. Fabans" wrote:
> How about we just hold a bake sale to send Gerald to San Diego?
> Set up an account on paypal. I'll donate $50 to get it started.
>
> Lara
> ---------------------
> Lara J. Fabans
> Lodestone Software, Inc
> lara@lodestone-sw.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerald Richter" <ri...@ecos.de>
> To: <em...@perl.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:13 PM
> Subject: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > as every year O'Reilly OpenSource Convention takes place in summer (July
> > 22-26, 2002 -- San Diego, CA ) and as in the last years there should be
> also
> > a talk about Embperl. So I have submitted my proposal and the talk was
> > accepted, but unlike as in the last years O'Reilly has no funding for the
> > speakers. That mean that I would have to pay the flight from Germany to
> the
> > US, the hotel etc. on my own. That is more then it is possible for me. So
> I
> > can't go to the conference this year :-(, but I really like to see the
> > Embperl talk happen.
> >
> > So now I am searching somebody who like to talk about Embperl at the OSCON
> > 2002. You get free entrace as speaker (that saves you $1000) and the fame
> > :-) Of course if anybody likes to do the job, I will assist in prepareing
> > the talk as much as possible.
> >
> > It would be really great if somebody could do the talk for me!
>
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion
2002 - Pledge Form
Posted by Kee Hinckley <na...@somewhere.com>.
At 4:36 PM -0400 5/3/02, Tiago Stock wrote:
> > Thanks very much for setting this up!!
>>
>> Gerald
Hey, couldn't have done it that fast without Embperl and Recordset :-).
>...and thanks for linking to my site for exchange rates :)
That's amusing. Actually you can thank Watson
(http://www.karelia.com/watson/) for that. I knew it had an exchange
calculator, so I went to see what site it was using. (I'll confess
though, that it took me about four attempts to enter the amount in
the first text field before I realized that the amount went on the
bottom and the results appeared on the top.)
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I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
- Pledge Form
Posted by Tiago Stock <ts...@tiago.com>.
> Thanks very much for setting this up!!
>
> Gerald
...and thanks for linking to my site for exchange rates :)
Tiago Stock
http://www.x-rates.com
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002 - Pledge Form
Posted by Gerald Richter <ri...@ecos.de>.
> If you would like to pledge money to cover Gerald's travel and
> lodging expenses, please go to http://www.somewhere.com/pledge/ and
> put in your email address and the amount. When we reach the goal
> we'll let you know how to make the contribution.
>
Thanks very much for setting this up!!
Gerald
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion
2002 - Pledge Form
Posted by Kee Hinckley <na...@somewhere.com>.
I think the first step is to make sure we have enough pledges to meet
the total amount, then we can create a paypal account or do whatever
is necessary to actually transfer the money. So with that in mind...
If you would like to pledge money to cover Gerald's travel and
lodging expenses, please go to http://www.somewhere.com/pledge/ and
put in your email address and the amount. When we reach the goal
we'll let you know how to make the contribution.
I know that *I* make my living using Embperl and
DBIx::Recordset--it's the least I can do.
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nazgul@somewhere.com
I'm not sure which upsets me more: that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
Posted by Ed Grimm <ed...@asgard.rsc.raytheon.com>.
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Gerald Richter - ecos gmbh wrote:
>> How about we just hold a bake sale to send Gerald to San Diego?
>> Set up an account on paypal. I'll donate $50 to get it started.
>
<snip>
>
> Thanks again very much
>
> Gerald
>
> P.S. What's paypal account? (sorry my non computer english is very bad
www.paypal.com, the cheapest way for an individual to wire money to
anyone with either a paypal account or an email address (one needs to
actually sign up for the account to get the money, however.) If you
don't mind me giving out your email address, I'll get them to send you
some information about themselves...
Ed
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
Posted by Gerald Richter - ecos gmbh <ri...@ecos.de>.
> How about we just hold a bake sale to send Gerald to San Diego?
> Set up an account on paypal. I'll donate $50 to get it started.
>
Thanks very much to all of you who want to donate money to make it possible
for me to go to the conference :-)
I have taken a quick look, the flight is currently about USD 1000, I would
need to stay 5 nights in San Diego (to stay over the weekend), because
otherwise the flight would 3 times that price. My internet connection to US
is currently very bad (lots of packet loss), so I wasn't able to check for
hotel prices, but I guess it will be not to cheap. The cheapest room in the
conference hotel is USD 185, I guess it would be possible to find something
cheaper in town, but I have been told that on friday the Gay Pride Week
starts and that the hotel prices will be therefor much higher than normal
:-(.
So for covering the flight and hotel we would need USD 1500-2000. If you
think if we could collect something in this range, I would able to pay the
rest (eating, transportation etc.).
Just to give you an impression about the relation: Things like eating,
transportation, hotel etc. are about as twice as expensive in the US then in
germany.
Thanks again very much
Gerald
P.S. What's paypal account? (sorry my non computer english is very bad
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RE: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2
Posted by Sam Michel <sa...@chinwag.com>.
We'll contribute £50...you the Embperl man, Gerald, you should go, I'm sure
you'd get enough support from the Embperl gang to cover the flight/hotel
costs.
Toodle Pip
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> From: wim@bits.nyetwork.org [mailto:wim@bits.nyetwork.org]On Behalf Of
> Wim Kerkhoff
> Sent: 03 May 2002 03:12
> To: embperl@perl.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion
> 2
>
>
> On 02-May-2002 Lara J. Fabans wrote:
> > How about we just hold a bake sale to send Gerald to San Diego?
> > Set up an account on paypal. I'll donate $50 to get it started.
>
> I'd chip in $50... I'd love to be there, except it's a bit
> expensive for this
> Canadian.
>
> Wim
>
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2
Posted by Wim Kerkhoff <wi...@nyetwork.org>.
On 02-May-2002 Lara J. Fabans wrote:
> How about we just hold a bake sale to send Gerald to San Diego?
> Set up an account on paypal. I'll donate $50 to get it started.
I'd chip in $50... I'd love to be there, except it's a bit expensive for this
Canadian.
Wim
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
Posted by "gerhard.egger" <ge...@lindeverlag.at>.
I agree,
i'm with you.
Gerhard Egger
Linde Verlag
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Lara J. Fabans wrote:
> How about we just hold a bake sale to send Gerald to San Diego?
> Set up an account on paypal. I'll donate $50 to get it started.
>
> Lara
> ---------------------
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> Lodestone Software, Inc
> lara@lodestone-sw.com
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
Posted by Ulrike Schepp <sc...@dark.lahn.de>.
Hi Lara!
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Lara J. Fabans wrote:
> How about we just hold a bake sale to send Gerald to San Diego?
> Set up an account on paypal. I'll donate $50 to get it started.
Me too ... EUR 50,-
... but please... no bakes... =:-D
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Re: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
Posted by "Lara J. Fabans" <la...@lodestone-sw.com>.
How about we just hold a bake sale to send Gerald to San Diego?
Set up an account on paypal. I'll donate $50 to get it started.
Lara
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From: "Gerald Richter" <ri...@ecos.de>
To: <em...@perl.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:13 PM
Subject: Talking about Embperl at the O'Reilly OpenSource Convetion 2002
> Hi,
>
> as every year O'Reilly OpenSource Convention takes place in summer (July
> 22-26, 2002 -- San Diego, CA ) and as in the last years there should be
also
> a talk about Embperl. So I have submitted my proposal and the talk was
> accepted, but unlike as in the last years O'Reilly has no funding for the
> speakers. That mean that I would have to pay the flight from Germany to
the
> US, the hotel etc. on my own. That is more then it is possible for me. So
I
> can't go to the conference this year :-(, but I really like to see the
> Embperl talk happen.
>
> So now I am searching somebody who like to talk about Embperl at the OSCON
> 2002. You get free entrace as speaker (that saves you $1000) and the fame
> :-) Of course if anybody likes to do the job, I will assist in prepareing
> the talk as much as possible.
>
> It would be really great if somebody could do the talk for me!
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