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Posted to dev@nuttx.apache.org by Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org> on 2024/01/04 13:03:12 UTC
Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Hi folks,
I was contacted by some of my friends in the IoT Space at the Eclipse Foundation.
They are planning this year's EclipseCon to work closer together with the other foundations in this space and proposed an Apache IoT Track in paralel to the EclipseCon. This will be happening in Mainz in Germany I think 4 weeks before Community Over Code NA.
I promised to reach out to the projects I know at Apache that count to the IoT space.
I really liked the idea of networking with the other foundation's projects as I think this is something happening far too little.
So would you folks be interested in submitting talks and attending such a conference?
Also the CFP for CoC EU in Bratislava is only open for a few more days and so far the IoT related submissions have been ... let's say ... less than I was hoping for.
So if you folks are planning on submitting: Do your track-chair (me) a favor and don't submit on the last day ... it's always a hastle to whip up a schedule if you can't do it in an orderly way, but get "shot by what's there" on the last day.
Looking forward to feedback,
Chris
PS: Please keep me In CC as I'm not subscribed here.
AW: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi Michael,
I think for this event generic talks would actually be the best option. I mean … it’s about helping Eclipse folks learn what we do (and the other way around) … a super fancy speciality session probably could scare away people … so I gues that would be fine.
Chris
Von: Michael Jung <mi...@secore.ly>
Datum: Freitag, 5. Januar 2024 um 09:17
An: dev@nuttx.apache.org <de...@nuttx.apache.org>
Cc: Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>
Betreff: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Hi Christofer,
as Mainz is quite close to me I would definitely attend the event. I presented twice at the NuttX International Workshop and would be willing to give a generic introduction on NuttX in Mainz, if desired.
Thanks!
Michael
On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 8:46 AM Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>> wrote:
Hi Alan,
Well in that case, that’s unfortunate. I just found the information on the proposed dates and it’s gonna be the 22.10.-24.10.2024 which is actually 12 days after Community over Code NA … so possibly it could work for you guys, right?
And I fully agree with running IoTDB on embedded … that’s totally out of scope, but TsFile is going to be super small … it’s just the part that writes timeseries data into so-called TsFiles (these can be of any size) … so the idea is to collect data on the device in TsFiles and then send them off in a chunck to an IoTDB instance to work with the data.
Chris
Von: Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>>
Datum: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 23:23
An: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>>
Cc: dev@nuttx.apache.org<ma...@nuttx.apache.org> <de...@nuttx.apache.org>>, Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>>
Betreff: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Hi Christofer,
I think many people could be interested in participating, but I'm afraid about the dates because you think it could be 4 weeks before Apache Community Over Code NA that is supposed to happen October 7-10, 2024 in Denver, CO.
It will be very close to our VI NuttX International Workshop (that normally happens at the end of September see: https://events.nuttx.apache.org ).
Although this year the workshop will return to the North Hemisphere (Japan or China), so maybe it could happen in June/July during the summer.
Do you think it is okay to present the same/similar talk on both events?
I saw about Apache TsFile and IoTDB a few days ago, when I was looking for Apache IoT projects.
Actually what they call "light weight" is too big to run on small microcontrollers (few KBs vs dozens MBs).
I listed some good DB alternatives to use on NuttX here: https://acassis.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/list-of-small-dbs/
Note that SQLite and QDBM are already used by companies running NuttX on their products.
Best Regards,
Alan
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:53 PM Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>>> wrote:
Hi Alan,
no, I didn’t forget to send the link, because there actually shouldn’t be a link just yet.
We’re still in the phase of discussing, if we should do this. It only makes sense to continue planning, if there is enough interest from the Apache side. And that’s what I’m currently reaching out for: Would there be enough interest to attend or to even submit talks to this sort of event.
And yeah … I’m the PLC4X guy with the plush civet ;-)
And yeah … I already stated digging on what NuttX is, as I think it might be interesting running PLC4X (PLC4Rust or PLC4C) on it … and possibly the brand new Apache TsFile.
Chris
Von: Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>>>
Datum: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 15:32
An: dev@nuttx.apache.org<ma...@nuttx.apache.org>> <de...@nuttx.apache.org>>>, Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>>>
Betreff: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Hi Christofer,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
I think you forgot to send the submission link, because there is no reference to that conference at https://www.eclipsecon.org
BTW, I think you are the guy from Apache PLC4X, right?
I think it could be integrated on NuttX (at least the plc4c) inside apps/industry/ subdirectory.
This any anyone with a board supported by NuttX (currently we have more than 300 boards) will be able to test PLC4X (main focus should be boards with Ethernet or WiFi and RS-485).
Best Regards,
Alan
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:03 AM Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I was contacted by some of my friends in the IoT Space at the Eclipse Foundation.
They are planning this year's EclipseCon to work closer together with the other foundations in this space and proposed an Apache IoT Track in paralel to the EclipseCon. This will be happening in Mainz in Germany I think 4 weeks before Community Over Code NA.
I promised to reach out to the projects I know at Apache that count to the IoT space.
I really liked the idea of networking with the other foundation's projects as I think this is something happening far too little.
So would you folks be interested in submitting talks and attending such a conference?
Also the CFP for CoC EU in Bratislava is only open for a few more days and so far the IoT related submissions have been ... let's say ... less than I was hoping for.
So if you folks are planning on submitting: Do your track-chair (me) a favor and don't submit on the last day ... it's always a hastle to whip up a schedule if you can't do it in an orderly way, but get "shot by what's there" on the last day.
Looking forward to feedback,
Chris
PS: Please keep me In CC as I'm not subscribed here.
Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Posted by Michael Jung <mi...@secore.ly>.
Hi Christofer,
as Mainz is quite close to me I would definitely attend the event. I
presented twice at the NuttX International Workshop and would be willing to
give a generic introduction on NuttX in Mainz, if desired.
Thanks!
Michael
On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 8:46 AM Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> Well in that case, that’s unfortunate. I just found the information on the
> proposed dates and it’s gonna be the 22.10.-24.10.2024 which is actually 12
> days after Community over Code NA … so possibly it could work for you guys,
> right?
>
> And I fully agree with running IoTDB on embedded … that’s totally out of
> scope, but TsFile is going to be super small … it’s just the part that
> writes timeseries data into so-called TsFiles (these can be of any size) …
> so the idea is to collect data on the device in TsFiles and then send them
> off in a chunck to an IoTDB instance to work with the data.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Von: Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>
> Datum: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 23:23
> An: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
> Cc: dev@nuttx.apache.org <de...@nuttx.apache.org>, Christofer Dutz <
> cdutz@apache.org>
> Betreff: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz
> (Germany) later this year?
> Hi Christofer,
> I think many people could be interested in participating, but I'm afraid
> about the dates because you think it could be 4 weeks before Apache
> Community Over Code NA that is supposed to happen October 7-10, 2024 in
> Denver, CO.
>
> It will be very close to our VI NuttX International Workshop (that
> normally happens at the end of September see:
> https://events.nuttx.apache.org ).
>
> Although this year the workshop will return to the North Hemisphere (Japan
> or China), so maybe it could happen in June/July during the summer.
>
> Do you think it is okay to present the same/similar talk on both events?
>
> I saw about Apache TsFile and IoTDB a few days ago, when I was looking for
> Apache IoT projects.
>
> Actually what they call "light weight" is too big to run on small
> microcontrollers (few KBs vs dozens MBs).
>
> I listed some good DB alternatives to use on NuttX here:
> https://acassis.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/list-of-small-dbs/
>
> Note that SQLite and QDBM are already used by companies running NuttX on
> their products.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:53 PM Christofer Dutz <christofer.dutz@c-ware.de
> <ma...@c-ware.de>> wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> no, I didn’t forget to send the link, because there actually shouldn’t be
> a link just yet.
> We’re still in the phase of discussing, if we should do this. It only
> makes sense to continue planning, if there is enough interest from the
> Apache side. And that’s what I’m currently reaching out for: Would there be
> enough interest to attend or to even submit talks to this sort of event.
>
> And yeah … I’m the PLC4X guy with the plush civet ;-)
>
> And yeah … I already stated digging on what NuttX is, as I think it might
> be interesting running PLC4X (PLC4Rust or PLC4C) on it … and possibly the
> brand new Apache TsFile.
>
> Chris
>
>
> Von: Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>>
> Datum: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 15:32
> An: dev@nuttx.apache.org<ma...@nuttx.apache.org> <
> dev@nuttx.apache.org<ma...@nuttx.apache.org>>, Christofer Dutz <
> cdutz@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>>
> Betreff: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz
> (Germany) later this year?
> Hi Christofer,
> Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
> I think you forgot to send the submission link, because there is no
> reference to that conference at https://www.eclipsecon.org
> BTW, I think you are the guy from Apache PLC4X, right?
> I think it could be integrated on NuttX (at least the plc4c) inside
> apps/industry/ subdirectory.
>
> This any anyone with a board supported by NuttX (currently we have more
> than 300 boards) will be able to test PLC4X (main focus should be boards
> with Ethernet or WiFi and RS-485).
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Alan
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:03 AM Christofer Dutz <cdutz@apache.org<mailto:
> cdutz@apache.org>> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I was contacted by some of my friends in the IoT Space at the Eclipse
> Foundation.
>
> They are planning this year's EclipseCon to work closer together with the
> other foundations in this space and proposed an Apache IoT Track in paralel
> to the EclipseCon. This will be happening in Mainz in Germany I think 4
> weeks before Community Over Code NA.
>
> I promised to reach out to the projects I know at Apache that count to the
> IoT space.
>
> I really liked the idea of networking with the other foundation's projects
> as I think this is something happening far too little.
>
> So would you folks be interested in submitting talks and attending such a
> conference?
>
> Also the CFP for CoC EU in Bratislava is only open for a few more days and
> so far the IoT related submissions have been ... let's say ... less than I
> was hoping for.
>
> So if you folks are planning on submitting: Do your track-chair (me) a
> favor and don't submit on the last day ... it's always a hastle to whip up
> a schedule if you can't do it in an orderly way, but get "shot by what's
> there" on the last day.
>
> Looking forward to feedback,
>
> Chris
>
> PS: Please keep me In CC as I'm not subscribed here.
>
RE: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Posted by "Alin.Jerpelea@sony.com" <Al...@sony.com>.
HI all,
If needed I can also present the NuttX project and our activity
Best regards
Alin
From: Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Hi Christofer, Cool, I think that date is fine! Is there some TsFile implementation in C? I think the issue of it been in Java is because we don't have a small JVM able to run on microcontrollers. I think in the past there was Waba and SuperWaba
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Hi Christofer,
Cool, I think that date is fine!
Is there some TsFile implementation in C? I think the issue of it been in
Java is because we don't have a small JVM able to run on microcontrollers.
I think in the past there was Waba and SuperWaba for Palm, but even that
was too big to run on STM32. Maybe it can run on ESP32.
BR,
Alan
On Friday, January 5, 2024, Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>>
wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
>
>
> Well in that case, that’s unfortunate. I just found the information on the
> proposed dates and it’s gonna be the 22.10.-24.10.2024 which is actually 12
> days after Community over Code NA … so possibly it could work for you guys,
> right?
>
> And I fully agree with running IoTDB on embedded … that’s totally out of
> scope, but TsFile is going to be super small … it’s just the part that
> writes timeseries data into so-called TsFiles (these can be of any size) …
> so the idea is to collect data on the device in TsFiles and then send them
> off in a chunck to an IoTDB instance to work with the data.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von: *Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>>
> *Datum: *Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 23:23
> *An: *Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>>
> *Cc: *dev@nuttx.apache.org<ma...@nuttx.apache.org> <de...@nuttx.apache.org>>, Christofer Dutz <
> cdutz@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>>
> *Betreff: *Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz
> (Germany) later this year?
>
> Hi Christofer,
>
> I think many people could be interested in participating, but I'm afraid
> about the dates because you think it could be 4 weeks before Apache
> Community Over Code NA that is supposed to happen October 7-10, 2024 in
> Denver, CO.
>
>
>
> It will be very close to our VI NuttX International Workshop (that
> normally happens at the end of September see: https://events.nuttx.apache<https://events.nuttx.apache>.
> org ).
>
>
>
> Although this year the workshop will return to the North Hemisphere (Japan
> or China), so maybe it could happen in June/July during the summer.
>
>
>
> Do you think it is okay to present the same/similar talk on both events?
>
>
>
> I saw about Apache TsFile and IoTDB a few days ago, when I was looking
> for Apache IoT projects.
>
>
>
> Actually what they call "light weight" is too big to run on small
> microcontrollers (few KBs vs dozens MBs).
>
>
>
> I listed some good DB alternatives to use on NuttX here:
> https://acassis.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/list-of-small-dbs/<https://acassis.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/list-of-small-dbs/>
>
>
>
> Note that SQLite and QDBM are already used by companies running NuttX on
> their products.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:53 PM Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>
>
>
> no, I didn’t forget to send the link, because there actually shouldn’t be
> a link just yet.
>
> We’re still in the phase of discussing, if we should do this. It only
> makes sense to continue planning, if there is enough interest from the
> Apache side. And that’s what I’m currently reaching out for: Would there be
> enough interest to attend or to even submit talks to this sort of event.
>
>
>
> And yeah … I’m the PLC4X guy with the plush civet ;-)
>
>
>
> And yeah … I already stated digging on what NuttX is, as I think it might
> be interesting running PLC4X (PLC4Rust or PLC4C) on it … and possibly the
> brand new Apache TsFile.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von: *Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>>
> *Datum: *Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 15:32
> *An: *dev@nuttx.apache.org<ma...@nuttx.apache.org> <de...@nuttx.apache.org>>, Christofer Dutz <
> cdutz@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>>
> *Betreff: *Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz
> (Germany) later this year?
>
> Hi Christofer,
>
> Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
>
> I think you forgot to send the submission link, because there is no
> reference to that conference at https://www.eclipsecon.org<https://www.eclipsecon.org>
>
> BTW, I think you are the guy from Apache PLC4X, right?
> I think it could be integrated on NuttX (at least the plc4c) inside
> apps/industry/ subdirectory.
>
>
>
> This any anyone with a board supported by NuttX (currently we have more
> than 300 boards) will be able to test PLC4X (main focus should be boards
> with Ethernet or WiFi and RS-485).
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:03 AM Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I was contacted by some of my friends in the IoT Space at the Eclipse
> Foundation.
>
> They are planning this year's EclipseCon to work closer together with the
> other foundations in this space and proposed an Apache IoT Track in paralel
> to the EclipseCon. This will be happening in Mainz in Germany I think 4
> weeks before Community Over Code NA.
>
> I promised to reach out to the projects I know at Apache that count to the
> IoT space.
>
> I really liked the idea of networking with the other foundation's projects
> as I think this is something happening far too little.
>
> So would you folks be interested in submitting talks and attending such a
> conference?
>
> Also the CFP for CoC EU in Bratislava is only open for a few more days and
> so far the IoT related submissions have been ... let's say ... less than I
> was hoping for.
>
> So if you folks are planning on submitting: Do your track-chair (me) a
> favor and don't submit on the last day ... it's always a hastle to whip up
> a schedule if you can't do it in an orderly way, but get "shot by what's
> there" on the last day.
>
> Looking forward to feedback,
>
> Chris
>
> PS: Please keep me In CC as I'm not subscribed here.
>
>
AW: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi Alan,
currently there is no non-java implementation … I am currently bootstrapping the project as a separate project. But for my personal agenda we will definitely be working towards something C/C++/Rust pretty soon as I need that for my vision on TsFile and IoTDB (Running TsFile on PLCs)
And regarding the other responses … I’ll mark that as a: There’s interest in an Apache IoT Day at EclipseCon EU from the side of the nuttx project ;-)
Chris
Von: Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>
Datum: Freitag, 5. Januar 2024 um 12:28
An: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
Cc: dev@nuttx.apache.org <de...@nuttx.apache.org>, Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>
Betreff: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Just fixing myself: there are some small JVM for MCU...
I found one called haikuVM (bad name, since it is not related to HaikuOS).
The other option is uJ that seems very interesting:
https://dmitry.gr/?r=05.Projects&proj=12.%20uJ%20-%20a%20micro%20JVM
BR,
Alan
On Friday, January 5, 2024, Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Christofer,
Cool, I think that date is fine!
Is there some TsFile implementation in C? I think the issue of it been in Java is because we don't have a small JVM able to run on microcontrollers. I think in the past there was Waba and SuperWaba for Palm, but even that was too big to run on STM32. Maybe it can run on ESP32.
BR,
Alan
On Friday, January 5, 2024, Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>> wrote:
Hi Alan,
Well in that case, that’s unfortunate. I just found the information on the proposed dates and it’s gonna be the 22.10.-24.10.2024 which is actually 12 days after Community over Code NA … so possibly it could work for you guys, right?
And I fully agree with running IoTDB on embedded … that’s totally out of scope, but TsFile is going to be super small … it’s just the part that writes timeseries data into so-called TsFiles (these can be of any size) … so the idea is to collect data on the device in TsFiles and then send them off in a chunck to an IoTDB instance to work with the data.
Chris
Von: Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>>
Datum: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 23:23
An: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>>
Cc: dev@nuttx.apache.org<ma...@nuttx.apache.org> <de...@nuttx.apache.org>>, Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>>
Betreff: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Hi Christofer,
I think many people could be interested in participating, but I'm afraid about the dates because you think it could be 4 weeks before Apache Community Over Code NA that is supposed to happen October 7-10, 2024 in Denver, CO.
It will be very close to our VI NuttX International Workshop (that normally happens at the end of September see: https://events.nuttx.apache.org ).
Although this year the workshop will return to the North Hemisphere (Japan or China), so maybe it could happen in June/July during the summer.
Do you think it is okay to present the same/similar talk on both events?
I saw about Apache TsFile and IoTDB a few days ago, when I was looking for Apache IoT projects.
Actually what they call "light weight" is too big to run on small microcontrollers (few KBs vs dozens MBs).
I listed some good DB alternatives to use on NuttX here: https://acassis.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/list-of-small-dbs/
Note that SQLite and QDBM are already used by companies running NuttX on their products.
Best Regards,
Alan
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:53 PM Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>> wrote:
Hi Alan,
no, I didn’t forget to send the link, because there actually shouldn’t be a link just yet.
We’re still in the phase of discussing, if we should do this. It only makes sense to continue planning, if there is enough interest from the Apache side. And that’s what I’m currently reaching out for: Would there be enough interest to attend or to even submit talks to this sort of event.
And yeah … I’m the PLC4X guy with the plush civet ;-)
And yeah … I already stated digging on what NuttX is, as I think it might be interesting running PLC4X (PLC4Rust or PLC4C) on it … and possibly the brand new Apache TsFile.
Chris
Von: Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>>
Datum: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 15:32
An: dev@nuttx.apache.org<ma...@nuttx.apache.org> <de...@nuttx.apache.org>>, Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>>
Betreff: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Hi Christofer,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
I think you forgot to send the submission link, because there is no reference to that conference at https://www.eclipsecon.org
BTW, I think you are the guy from Apache PLC4X, right?
I think it could be integrated on NuttX (at least the plc4c) inside apps/industry/ subdirectory.
This any anyone with a board supported by NuttX (currently we have more than 300 boards) will be able to test PLC4X (main focus should be boards with Ethernet or WiFi and RS-485).
Best Regards,
Alan
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:03 AM Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I was contacted by some of my friends in the IoT Space at the Eclipse Foundation.
They are planning this year's EclipseCon to work closer together with the other foundations in this space and proposed an Apache IoT Track in paralel to the EclipseCon. This will be happening in Mainz in Germany I think 4 weeks before Community Over Code NA.
I promised to reach out to the projects I know at Apache that count to the IoT space.
I really liked the idea of networking with the other foundation's projects as I think this is something happening far too little.
So would you folks be interested in submitting talks and attending such a conference?
Also the CFP for CoC EU in Bratislava is only open for a few more days and so far the IoT related submissions have been ... let's say ... less than I was hoping for.
So if you folks are planning on submitting: Do your track-chair (me) a favor and don't submit on the last day ... it's always a hastle to whip up a schedule if you can't do it in an orderly way, but get "shot by what's there" on the last day.
Looking forward to feedback,
Chris
PS: Please keep me In CC as I'm not subscribed here.
Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Posted by "Alan C. Assis" <ac...@gmail.com>.
Just fixing myself: there are some small JVM for MCU...
I found one called haikuVM (bad name, since it is not related to HaikuOS).
The other option is uJ that seems very interesting:
https://dmitry.gr/?r=05.Projects&proj=12.%20uJ%20-%20a%20micro%20JVM
BR,
Alan
On Friday, January 5, 2024, Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Christofer,
>
> Cool, I think that date is fine!
>
> Is there some TsFile implementation in C? I think the issue of it been in
> Java is because we don't have a small JVM able to run on microcontrollers.
> I think in the past there was Waba and SuperWaba for Palm, but even that
> was too big to run on STM32. Maybe it can run on ESP32.
>
> BR,
>
> Alan
>
> On Friday, January 5, 2024, Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>>
>>
>> Well in that case, that’s unfortunate. I just found the information on
>> the proposed dates and it’s gonna be the 22.10.-24.10.2024 which is
>> actually 12 days after Community over Code NA … so possibly it could work
>> for you guys, right?
>>
>> And I fully agree with running IoTDB on embedded … that’s totally out of
>> scope, but TsFile is going to be super small … it’s just the part that
>> writes timeseries data into so-called TsFiles (these can be of any size) …
>> so the idea is to collect data on the device in TsFiles and then send them
>> off in a chunck to an IoTDB instance to work with the data.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von: *Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>
>> *Datum: *Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 23:23
>> *An: *Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
>> *Cc: *dev@nuttx.apache.org <de...@nuttx.apache.org>, Christofer Dutz <
>> cdutz@apache.org>
>> *Betreff: *Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz
>> (Germany) later this year?
>>
>> Hi Christofer,
>>
>> I think many people could be interested in participating, but I'm afraid
>> about the dates because you think it could be 4 weeks before Apache
>> Community Over Code NA that is supposed to happen October 7-10, 2024 in
>> Denver, CO.
>>
>>
>>
>> It will be very close to our VI NuttX International Workshop (that
>> normally happens at the end of September see:
>> https://events.nuttx.apache.org ).
>>
>>
>>
>> Although this year the workshop will return to the North Hemisphere
>> (Japan or China), so maybe it could happen in June/July during the summer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you think it is okay to present the same/similar talk on both events?
>>
>>
>>
>> I saw about Apache TsFile and IoTDB a few days ago, when I was looking
>> for Apache IoT projects.
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually what they call "light weight" is too big to run on small
>> microcontrollers (few KBs vs dozens MBs).
>>
>>
>>
>> I listed some good DB alternatives to use on NuttX here:
>> https://acassis.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/list-of-small-dbs/
>>
>>
>>
>> Note that SQLite and QDBM are already used by companies running NuttX on
>> their products.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:53 PM Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>>
>>
>> no, I didn’t forget to send the link, because there actually shouldn’t be
>> a link just yet.
>>
>> We’re still in the phase of discussing, if we should do this. It only
>> makes sense to continue planning, if there is enough interest from the
>> Apache side. And that’s what I’m currently reaching out for: Would there be
>> enough interest to attend or to even submit talks to this sort of event.
>>
>>
>>
>> And yeah … I’m the PLC4X guy with the plush civet ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> And yeah … I already stated digging on what NuttX is, as I think it might
>> be interesting running PLC4X (PLC4Rust or PLC4C) on it … and possibly the
>> brand new Apache TsFile.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von: *Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>
>> *Datum: *Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 15:32
>> *An: *dev@nuttx.apache.org <de...@nuttx.apache.org>, Christofer Dutz <
>> cdutz@apache.org>
>> *Betreff: *Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz
>> (Germany) later this year?
>>
>> Hi Christofer,
>>
>> Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
>>
>> I think you forgot to send the submission link, because there is no
>> reference to that conference at https://www.eclipsecon.org
>>
>> BTW, I think you are the guy from Apache PLC4X, right?
>> I think it could be integrated on NuttX (at least the plc4c) inside
>> apps/industry/ subdirectory.
>>
>>
>>
>> This any anyone with a board supported by NuttX (currently we have more
>> than 300 boards) will be able to test PLC4X (main focus should be boards
>> with Ethernet or WiFi and RS-485).
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:03 AM Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I was contacted by some of my friends in the IoT Space at the Eclipse
>> Foundation.
>>
>> They are planning this year's EclipseCon to work closer together with the
>> other foundations in this space and proposed an Apache IoT Track in paralel
>> to the EclipseCon. This will be happening in Mainz in Germany I think 4
>> weeks before Community Over Code NA.
>>
>> I promised to reach out to the projects I know at Apache that count to
>> the IoT space.
>>
>> I really liked the idea of networking with the other foundation's
>> projects as I think this is something happening far too little.
>>
>> So would you folks be interested in submitting talks and attending such a
>> conference?
>>
>> Also the CFP for CoC EU in Bratislava is only open for a few more days
>> and so far the IoT related submissions have been ... let's say ... less
>> than I was hoping for.
>>
>> So if you folks are planning on submitting: Do your track-chair (me) a
>> favor and don't submit on the last day ... it's always a hastle to whip up
>> a schedule if you can't do it in an orderly way, but get "shot by what's
>> there" on the last day.
>>
>> Looking forward to feedback,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> PS: Please keep me In CC as I'm not subscribed here.
>>
>>
Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Posted by "Alan C. Assis" <ac...@gmail.com>.
Hi Christofer,
Cool, I think that date is fine!
Is there some TsFile implementation in C? I think the issue of it been in
Java is because we don't have a small JVM able to run on microcontrollers.
I think in the past there was Waba and SuperWaba for Palm, but even that
was too big to run on STM32. Maybe it can run on ESP32.
BR,
Alan
On Friday, January 5, 2024, Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
>
>
> Well in that case, that’s unfortunate. I just found the information on the
> proposed dates and it’s gonna be the 22.10.-24.10.2024 which is actually 12
> days after Community over Code NA … so possibly it could work for you guys,
> right?
>
> And I fully agree with running IoTDB on embedded … that’s totally out of
> scope, but TsFile is going to be super small … it’s just the part that
> writes timeseries data into so-called TsFiles (these can be of any size) …
> so the idea is to collect data on the device in TsFiles and then send them
> off in a chunck to an IoTDB instance to work with the data.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von: *Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>
> *Datum: *Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 23:23
> *An: *Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
> *Cc: *dev@nuttx.apache.org <de...@nuttx.apache.org>, Christofer Dutz <
> cdutz@apache.org>
> *Betreff: *Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz
> (Germany) later this year?
>
> Hi Christofer,
>
> I think many people could be interested in participating, but I'm afraid
> about the dates because you think it could be 4 weeks before Apache
> Community Over Code NA that is supposed to happen October 7-10, 2024 in
> Denver, CO.
>
>
>
> It will be very close to our VI NuttX International Workshop (that
> normally happens at the end of September see: https://events.nuttx.apache.
> org ).
>
>
>
> Although this year the workshop will return to the North Hemisphere (Japan
> or China), so maybe it could happen in June/July during the summer.
>
>
>
> Do you think it is okay to present the same/similar talk on both events?
>
>
>
> I saw about Apache TsFile and IoTDB a few days ago, when I was looking
> for Apache IoT projects.
>
>
>
> Actually what they call "light weight" is too big to run on small
> microcontrollers (few KBs vs dozens MBs).
>
>
>
> I listed some good DB alternatives to use on NuttX here:
> https://acassis.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/list-of-small-dbs/
>
>
>
> Note that SQLite and QDBM are already used by companies running NuttX on
> their products.
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:53 PM Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Alan,
>
>
>
> no, I didn’t forget to send the link, because there actually shouldn’t be
> a link just yet.
>
> We’re still in the phase of discussing, if we should do this. It only
> makes sense to continue planning, if there is enough interest from the
> Apache side. And that’s what I’m currently reaching out for: Would there be
> enough interest to attend or to even submit talks to this sort of event.
>
>
>
> And yeah … I’m the PLC4X guy with the plush civet ;-)
>
>
>
> And yeah … I already stated digging on what NuttX is, as I think it might
> be interesting running PLC4X (PLC4Rust or PLC4C) on it … and possibly the
> brand new Apache TsFile.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von: *Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>
> *Datum: *Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 15:32
> *An: *dev@nuttx.apache.org <de...@nuttx.apache.org>, Christofer Dutz <
> cdutz@apache.org>
> *Betreff: *Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz
> (Germany) later this year?
>
> Hi Christofer,
>
> Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
>
> I think you forgot to send the submission link, because there is no
> reference to that conference at https://www.eclipsecon.org
>
> BTW, I think you are the guy from Apache PLC4X, right?
> I think it could be integrated on NuttX (at least the plc4c) inside
> apps/industry/ subdirectory.
>
>
>
> This any anyone with a board supported by NuttX (currently we have more
> than 300 boards) will be able to test PLC4X (main focus should be boards
> with Ethernet or WiFi and RS-485).
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:03 AM Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I was contacted by some of my friends in the IoT Space at the Eclipse
> Foundation.
>
> They are planning this year's EclipseCon to work closer together with the
> other foundations in this space and proposed an Apache IoT Track in paralel
> to the EclipseCon. This will be happening in Mainz in Germany I think 4
> weeks before Community Over Code NA.
>
> I promised to reach out to the projects I know at Apache that count to the
> IoT space.
>
> I really liked the idea of networking with the other foundation's projects
> as I think this is something happening far too little.
>
> So would you folks be interested in submitting talks and attending such a
> conference?
>
> Also the CFP for CoC EU in Bratislava is only open for a few more days and
> so far the IoT related submissions have been ... let's say ... less than I
> was hoping for.
>
> So if you folks are planning on submitting: Do your track-chair (me) a
> favor and don't submit on the last day ... it's always a hastle to whip up
> a schedule if you can't do it in an orderly way, but get "shot by what's
> there" on the last day.
>
> Looking forward to feedback,
>
> Chris
>
> PS: Please keep me In CC as I'm not subscribed here.
>
>
AW: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi Alan,
Well in that case, that’s unfortunate. I just found the information on the proposed dates and it’s gonna be the 22.10.-24.10.2024 which is actually 12 days after Community over Code NA … so possibly it could work for you guys, right?
And I fully agree with running IoTDB on embedded … that’s totally out of scope, but TsFile is going to be super small … it’s just the part that writes timeseries data into so-called TsFiles (these can be of any size) … so the idea is to collect data on the device in TsFiles and then send them off in a chunck to an IoTDB instance to work with the data.
Chris
Von: Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>
Datum: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 23:23
An: Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
Cc: dev@nuttx.apache.org <de...@nuttx.apache.org>, Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>
Betreff: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Hi Christofer,
I think many people could be interested in participating, but I'm afraid about the dates because you think it could be 4 weeks before Apache Community Over Code NA that is supposed to happen October 7-10, 2024 in Denver, CO.
It will be very close to our VI NuttX International Workshop (that normally happens at the end of September see: https://events.nuttx.apache.org ).
Although this year the workshop will return to the North Hemisphere (Japan or China), so maybe it could happen in June/July during the summer.
Do you think it is okay to present the same/similar talk on both events?
I saw about Apache TsFile and IoTDB a few days ago, when I was looking for Apache IoT projects.
Actually what they call "light weight" is too big to run on small microcontrollers (few KBs vs dozens MBs).
I listed some good DB alternatives to use on NuttX here: https://acassis.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/list-of-small-dbs/
Note that SQLite and QDBM are already used by companies running NuttX on their products.
Best Regards,
Alan
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:53 PM Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>> wrote:
Hi Alan,
no, I didn’t forget to send the link, because there actually shouldn’t be a link just yet.
We’re still in the phase of discussing, if we should do this. It only makes sense to continue planning, if there is enough interest from the Apache side. And that’s what I’m currently reaching out for: Would there be enough interest to attend or to even submit talks to this sort of event.
And yeah … I’m the PLC4X guy with the plush civet ;-)
And yeah … I already stated digging on what NuttX is, as I think it might be interesting running PLC4X (PLC4Rust or PLC4C) on it … and possibly the brand new Apache TsFile.
Chris
Von: Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>>
Datum: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 15:32
An: dev@nuttx.apache.org<ma...@nuttx.apache.org> <de...@nuttx.apache.org>>, Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>>
Betreff: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Hi Christofer,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
I think you forgot to send the submission link, because there is no reference to that conference at https://www.eclipsecon.org
BTW, I think you are the guy from Apache PLC4X, right?
I think it could be integrated on NuttX (at least the plc4c) inside apps/industry/ subdirectory.
This any anyone with a board supported by NuttX (currently we have more than 300 boards) will be able to test PLC4X (main focus should be boards with Ethernet or WiFi and RS-485).
Best Regards,
Alan
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:03 AM Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I was contacted by some of my friends in the IoT Space at the Eclipse Foundation.
They are planning this year's EclipseCon to work closer together with the other foundations in this space and proposed an Apache IoT Track in paralel to the EclipseCon. This will be happening in Mainz in Germany I think 4 weeks before Community Over Code NA.
I promised to reach out to the projects I know at Apache that count to the IoT space.
I really liked the idea of networking with the other foundation's projects as I think this is something happening far too little.
So would you folks be interested in submitting talks and attending such a conference?
Also the CFP for CoC EU in Bratislava is only open for a few more days and so far the IoT related submissions have been ... let's say ... less than I was hoping for.
So if you folks are planning on submitting: Do your track-chair (me) a favor and don't submit on the last day ... it's always a hastle to whip up a schedule if you can't do it in an orderly way, but get "shot by what's there" on the last day.
Looking forward to feedback,
Chris
PS: Please keep me In CC as I'm not subscribed here.
Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Posted by "Alan C. Assis" <ac...@gmail.com>.
Hi Christofer,
I think many people could be interested in participating, but I'm afraid
about the dates because you think it could be 4 weeks before Apache
Community Over Code NA that is supposed to happen October 7-10, 2024 in
Denver, CO.
It will be very close to our VI NuttX International Workshop (that normally
happens at the end of September see: https://events.nuttx.apache.org ).
Although this year the workshop will return to the North Hemisphere (Japan
or China), so maybe it could happen in June/July during the summer.
Do you think it is okay to present the same/similar talk on both events?
I saw about Apache TsFile and IoTDB a few days ago, when I was looking for
Apache IoT projects.
Actually what they call "light weight" is too big to run on small
microcontrollers (few KBs vs dozens MBs).
I listed some good DB alternatives to use on NuttX here:
https://acassis.wordpress.com/2022/03/15/list-of-small-dbs/
Note that SQLite and QDBM are already used by companies running NuttX on
their products.
Best Regards,
Alan
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:53 PM Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
>
>
> no, I didn’t forget to send the link, because there actually shouldn’t be
> a link just yet.
>
> We’re still in the phase of discussing, if we should do this. It only
> makes sense to continue planning, if there is enough interest from the
> Apache side. And that’s what I’m currently reaching out for: Would there be
> enough interest to attend or to even submit talks to this sort of event.
>
>
>
> And yeah … I’m the PLC4X guy with the plush civet ;-)
>
>
>
> And yeah … I already stated digging on what NuttX is, as I think it might
> be interesting running PLC4X (PLC4Rust or PLC4C) on it … and possibly the
> brand new Apache TsFile.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von: *Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>
> *Datum: *Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 15:32
> *An: *dev@nuttx.apache.org <de...@nuttx.apache.org>, Christofer Dutz <
> cdutz@apache.org>
> *Betreff: *Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz
> (Germany) later this year?
>
> Hi Christofer,
>
> Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
>
> I think you forgot to send the submission link, because there is no
> reference to that conference at https://www.eclipsecon.org
>
> BTW, I think you are the guy from Apache PLC4X, right?
> I think it could be integrated on NuttX (at least the plc4c) inside
> apps/industry/ subdirectory.
>
>
>
> This any anyone with a board supported by NuttX (currently we have more
> than 300 boards) will be able to test PLC4X (main focus should be boards
> with Ethernet or WiFi and RS-485).
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:03 AM Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I was contacted by some of my friends in the IoT Space at the Eclipse
> Foundation.
>
> They are planning this year's EclipseCon to work closer together with the
> other foundations in this space and proposed an Apache IoT Track in paralel
> to the EclipseCon. This will be happening in Mainz in Germany I think 4
> weeks before Community Over Code NA.
>
> I promised to reach out to the projects I know at Apache that count to the
> IoT space.
>
> I really liked the idea of networking with the other foundation's projects
> as I think this is something happening far too little.
>
> So would you folks be interested in submitting talks and attending such a
> conference?
>
> Also the CFP for CoC EU in Bratislava is only open for a few more days and
> so far the IoT related submissions have been ... let's say ... less than I
> was hoping for.
>
> So if you folks are planning on submitting: Do your track-chair (me) a
> favor and don't submit on the last day ... it's always a hastle to whip up
> a schedule if you can't do it in an orderly way, but get "shot by what's
> there" on the last day.
>
> Looking forward to feedback,
>
> Chris
>
> PS: Please keep me In CC as I'm not subscribed here.
>
>
AW: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Posted by Christofer Dutz <ch...@c-ware.de>.
Hi Alan,
no, I didn’t forget to send the link, because there actually shouldn’t be a link just yet.
We’re still in the phase of discussing, if we should do this. It only makes sense to continue planning, if there is enough interest from the Apache side. And that’s what I’m currently reaching out for: Would there be enough interest to attend or to even submit talks to this sort of event.
And yeah … I’m the PLC4X guy with the plush civet ;-)
And yeah … I already stated digging on what NuttX is, as I think it might be interesting running PLC4X (PLC4Rust or PLC4C) on it … and possibly the brand new Apache TsFile.
Chris
Von: Alan C. Assis <ac...@gmail.com>
Datum: Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2024 um 15:32
An: dev@nuttx.apache.org <de...@nuttx.apache.org>, Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>
Betreff: Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Hi Christofer,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
I think you forgot to send the submission link, because there is no reference to that conference at https://www.eclipsecon.org
BTW, I think you are the guy from Apache PLC4X, right?
I think it could be integrated on NuttX (at least the plc4c) inside apps/industry/ subdirectory.
This any anyone with a board supported by NuttX (currently we have more than 300 boards) will be able to test PLC4X (main focus should be boards with Ethernet or WiFi and RS-485).
Best Regards,
Alan
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:03 AM Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org>> wrote:
Hi folks,
I was contacted by some of my friends in the IoT Space at the Eclipse Foundation.
They are planning this year's EclipseCon to work closer together with the other foundations in this space and proposed an Apache IoT Track in paralel to the EclipseCon. This will be happening in Mainz in Germany I think 4 weeks before Community Over Code NA.
I promised to reach out to the projects I know at Apache that count to the IoT space.
I really liked the idea of networking with the other foundation's projects as I think this is something happening far too little.
So would you folks be interested in submitting talks and attending such a conference?
Also the CFP for CoC EU in Bratislava is only open for a few more days and so far the IoT related submissions have been ... let's say ... less than I was hoping for.
So if you folks are planning on submitting: Do your track-chair (me) a favor and don't submit on the last day ... it's always a hastle to whip up a schedule if you can't do it in an orderly way, but get "shot by what's there" on the last day.
Looking forward to feedback,
Chris
PS: Please keep me In CC as I'm not subscribed here.
Re: Interest in an Apache IoT Track at EclipseCon EU in Mainz (Germany) later this year?
Posted by "Alan C. Assis" <ac...@gmail.com>.
Hi Christofer,
Thank you for bringing this to our attention!
I think you forgot to send the submission link, because there is no
reference to that conference at https://www.eclipsecon.org
BTW, I think you are the guy from Apache PLC4X, right?
I think it could be integrated on NuttX (at least the plc4c) inside
apps/industry/ subdirectory.
This any anyone with a board supported by NuttX (currently we have more
than 300 boards) will be able to test PLC4X (main focus should be boards
with Ethernet or WiFi and RS-485).
Best Regards,
Alan
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 10:03 AM Christofer Dutz <cd...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I was contacted by some of my friends in the IoT Space at the Eclipse
> Foundation.
>
> They are planning this year's EclipseCon to work closer together with the
> other foundations in this space and proposed an Apache IoT Track in paralel
> to the EclipseCon. This will be happening in Mainz in Germany I think 4
> weeks before Community Over Code NA.
>
> I promised to reach out to the projects I know at Apache that count to the
> IoT space.
>
> I really liked the idea of networking with the other foundation's projects
> as I think this is something happening far too little.
>
> So would you folks be interested in submitting talks and attending such a
> conference?
>
> Also the CFP for CoC EU in Bratislava is only open for a few more days and
> so far the IoT related submissions have been ... let's say ... less than I
> was hoping for.
>
> So if you folks are planning on submitting: Do your track-chair (me) a
> favor and don't submit on the last day ... it's always a hastle to whip up
> a schedule if you can't do it in an orderly way, but get "shot by what's
> there" on the last day.
>
> Looking forward to feedback,
>
> Chris
>
> PS: Please keep me In CC as I'm not subscribed here.
>