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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by Issac Goldstand <ma...@beamartyr.net> on 2008/02/10 01:21:42 UTC
ping on mod_dns
Any volunteers to import mod_dns so I can eventually start hacking at it
again (topic came up at work recently and I have a couple of feature
ideas that I'd like to work on, but really don't want to have to work in
my old svn + port changes to asf svn too)?
AFAIK, we finished with the red tape already (please tell me off-list if
I'm wrong)
Issac
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Issac Goldstand <ma...@beamartyr.net>.
Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> On Feb 9, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Issac Goldstand wrote:
>
>> Any volunteers to import mod_dns so I can eventually start hacking at it
>> again (topic came up at work recently and I have a couple of feature
>> ideas that I'd like to work on, but really don't want to have to work in
>> my old svn + port changes to asf svn too)?
>>
>> AFAIK, we finished with the red tape already (please tell me off-list if
>> I'm wrong)
>
> Actually, I'd rather do that on-list so that more people know what is
> required. We already had the proposal and enough +1 votes to add
> mod_dns as a subproject.
>
> http://markmail.org/message/juhrpyxq635mhy6n
>
> The next question is about the intellectual property. I note that
> there is already an open source product called mod_dns:
>
> http://freshmeat.net/projects/mod_dns/
>
> Is that the same code, or entirely different?
>
Something else (not our code)
Issac
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@gbiv.com>.
On Feb 18, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On Feb 18, 2008 2:49 PM, Jorge Schrauwen
> <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> true but like Roy said if mod_dns is allready in use a new name will
>> need to be found no?
>
> The mod_dns listed on Freshmeat looks like it was lasted changed in
> 2001 and was only for 1.3. We could drop a line to the guy and see if
> he minds us using the name for our module. If he replies that's it's
> okay, I'd like to see us use mod_dns. But, if he doesn't reply or
> says no, then we should find another name... -- justin
Why bother? The presence of mod_dns, already performing a different
purpose, makes confusion of users likely. The name mod_named more
accurately reflects what this new module is supposed to do, and its
only use was in a discussion by Eli Marmor about this contribution.
Let's take the easy road.
....Roy
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On Feb 18, 2008 2:49 PM, Jorge Schrauwen <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> true but like Roy said if mod_dns is allready in use a new name will
> need to be found no?
The mod_dns listed on Freshmeat looks like it was lasted changed in
2001 and was only for 1.3. We could drop a line to the guy and see if
he minds us using the name for our module. If he replies that's it's
okay, I'd like to see us use mod_dns. But, if he doesn't reply or
says no, then we should find another name... -- justin
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Colm MacCarthaigh <co...@allcosts.net>.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:30:30AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> I propose mod_domain.... to match the IANA port number
> assignment.
+1, especially since that way we don't have to listen to Paul Vixie ;)
--
Colm MacCárthaigh Public Key: colm+pgp@stdlib.net
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Issac Goldstand <ma...@beamartyr.net>.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Mads Toftum wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:30:30AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> I propose mod_domain.... to match the IANA port number
>>> assignment.
>>>
>> Seems more confusing than mod_named.
>
> I didn't care for mod_named (we haven't been suffixing the 'd'aemon
> most of the time), was actually thinking of mod_cname or similar, but
> mod_domain looks suitably unique and descriptive.
>
> +1 to mod_domain from me.
Fair warning to everyone (just FYI while we're talking about the name):
The module is itself modular, with only "core" DNS recordtypes built-in
- at the moment, that's A, CNAME and MX and will probably include at
least SOA and NS too before a version 1 is released. So we're
potentially going to see modules like mod_domain_mx and mod_domain_txt
or mod_domain_msad (for active directory extensions), etc.
Also, do we want to change the internals to start using the new name or
not - most notably the public bits of the API that are there to allow
extensibility, like DNS_DECLARE(type), DNS_DECLARE_NONSTD(type) and
DNS_DECLARE_DATA macros, etc?
Issac
Issac
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by "William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
Mads Toftum wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:30:30AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> I propose mod_domain.... to match the IANA port number
>> assignment.
>>
> Seems more confusing than mod_named.
I didn't care for mod_named (we haven't been suffixing the 'd'aemon
most of the time), was actually thinking of mod_cname or similar, but
mod_domain looks suitably unique and descriptive.
+1 to mod_domain from me.
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Mads Toftum <ma...@toftum.dk>.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:30:30AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> I propose mod_domain.... to match the IANA port number
> assignment.
>
Seems more confusing than mod_named.
vh
Mads Toftum
--
http://soulfood.dk
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
I propose mod_domain.... to match the IANA port number
assignment.
On Feb 18, 2008, at 5:49 PM, Jorge Schrauwen wrote:
> true but like Roy said if mod_dns is allready in use a new name will
> need to be found no?
>
> On Feb 18, 2008 8:42 PM, Issac Goldstand <ma...@beamartyr.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Jorge Schrauwen wrote:
>>> If the mod_dns mentioned before is different from the code... may I
>>> sugest mod_named? since a lot of people would be famileir with a
>>> name
>>> like htat.
>>
>> True, but that would break naming conventions:
>>
>> mod_smtp
>> mod_ftp
>> (mod_proxy_ajp, mod_proxy_http, mod_proxy_ftp)
>> and even the included http module that handles http...
>>
>> -0
>>
>> Issac
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ~Jorge
>
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Jorge Schrauwen <jo...@gmail.com>.
true but like Roy said if mod_dns is allready in use a new name will
need to be found no?
On Feb 18, 2008 8:42 PM, Issac Goldstand <ma...@beamartyr.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Jorge Schrauwen wrote:
> > If the mod_dns mentioned before is different from the code... may I
> > sugest mod_named? since a lot of people would be famileir with a name
> > like htat.
>
> True, but that would break naming conventions:
>
> mod_smtp
> mod_ftp
> (mod_proxy_ajp, mod_proxy_http, mod_proxy_ftp)
> and even the included http module that handles http...
>
> -0
>
> Issac
>
--
~Jorge
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Issac Goldstand <ma...@beamartyr.net>.
Jorge Schrauwen wrote:
> If the mod_dns mentioned before is different from the code... may I
> sugest mod_named? since a lot of people would be famileir with a name
> like htat.
True, but that would break naming conventions:
mod_smtp
mod_ftp
(mod_proxy_ajp, mod_proxy_http, mod_proxy_ftp)
and even the included http module that handles http...
-0
Issac
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Jorge Schrauwen <jo...@gmail.com>.
If the mod_dns mentioned before is different from the code... may I
sugest mod_named? since a lot of people would be famileir with a name
like htat.
On Feb 18, 2008 8:22 PM, Erik Abele <er...@codefaktor.de> wrote:
> On 18.02.2008, at 20:03, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
>
> > On Feb 9, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Issac Goldstand wrote:
> >
> >> Any volunteers to import mod_dns so I can eventually start hacking
> >> at it
> >> again (topic came up at work recently and I have a couple of feature
> >> ideas that I'd like to work on, but really don't want to have to
> >> work in
> >> my old svn + port changes to asf svn too)?
> >>
> >> AFAIK, we finished with the red tape already (please tell me off-
> >> list if
> >> I'm wrong)
> >
> > Actually, I'd rather do that on-list so that more people know what is
> > required. We already had the proposal and enough +1 votes to add
> > mod_dns as a subproject.
> >
> > http://markmail.org/message/juhrpyxq635mhy6n
> >
> > The next question is about the intellectual property.
> > ...
>
> See also the thread 'Issac Goldstand / mod_dns' on board@ for some
> info re paper-work (02/10/2008)...
>
> Cheers,
> Erik
>
--
~Jorge
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Erik Abele <er...@codefaktor.de>.
On 18.02.2008, at 20:03, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> On Feb 9, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Issac Goldstand wrote:
>
>> Any volunteers to import mod_dns so I can eventually start hacking
>> at it
>> again (topic came up at work recently and I have a couple of feature
>> ideas that I'd like to work on, but really don't want to have to
>> work in
>> my old svn + port changes to asf svn too)?
>>
>> AFAIK, we finished with the red tape already (please tell me off-
>> list if
>> I'm wrong)
>
> Actually, I'd rather do that on-list so that more people know what is
> required. We already had the proposal and enough +1 votes to add
> mod_dns as a subproject.
>
> http://markmail.org/message/juhrpyxq635mhy6n
>
> The next question is about the intellectual property.
> ...
See also the thread 'Issac Goldstand / mod_dns' on board@ for some
info re paper-work (02/10/2008)...
Cheers,
Erik
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@gbiv.com>.
On Feb 9, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Issac Goldstand wrote:
> Any volunteers to import mod_dns so I can eventually start hacking
> at it
> again (topic came up at work recently and I have a couple of feature
> ideas that I'd like to work on, but really don't want to have to
> work in
> my old svn + port changes to asf svn too)?
>
> AFAIK, we finished with the red tape already (please tell me off-
> list if
> I'm wrong)
Actually, I'd rather do that on-list so that more people know what is
required. We already had the proposal and enough +1 votes to add
mod_dns as a subproject.
http://markmail.org/message/juhrpyxq635mhy6n
The next question is about the intellectual property. I note that
there is already an open source product called mod_dns:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/mod_dns/
Is that the same code, or entirely different?
....Roy
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Erik Abele <er...@codefaktor.de>.
On 10.02.2008, at 14:16, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote:
> On Feb 10, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Issac Goldstand wrote:
>
>> Any volunteers to import mod_dns so I can eventually start hacking
>> at it
>> again (topic came up at work recently and I have a couple of feature
>> ideas that I'd like to work on, but really don't want to have to
>> work in
>> my old svn + port changes to asf svn too)?
>
> I'd be quite interested to see this go in as 'experimental' or
> similar.
Same here, I'd be interested in that as well - of course for now only
as experimental.
Cheers,
Erik
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Jorge Schrauwen <jo...@gmail.com>.
Me too, If this gets in experimental I'll probably give it a try
sounds really interesting
On Feb 10, 2008 2:16 PM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org> wrote:
>
> On Feb 10, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Issac Goldstand wrote:
>
> > Any volunteers to import mod_dns so I can eventually start hacking
> > at it
> > again (topic came up at work recently and I have a couple of feature
> > ideas that I'd like to work on, but really don't want to have to
> > work in
> > my old svn + port changes to asf svn too)?
>
>
> I'd be quite interested to see this go in as 'experimental' or similar.
>
> Dw.
>
--
~Jorge
Re: ping on mod_dns
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
On Feb 10, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Issac Goldstand wrote:
> Any volunteers to import mod_dns so I can eventually start hacking
> at it
> again (topic came up at work recently and I have a couple of feature
> ideas that I'd like to work on, but really don't want to have to
> work in
> my old svn + port changes to asf svn too)?
I'd be quite interested to see this go in as 'experimental' or similar.
Dw.