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James / James JSieve dependency to Geronimo-Mail [unsigned]
Hello,
we have runtime issues (class cast exception) using James3 due to the usage of java-mail-1.4.4 together with Geronimo-mail.
We are currently in testing, so we try to fix some runtime issues before going to production.
There have been a discussion to go back (again) from Geronimo to java-mail.
Java-mail is now developed by java.net, currently release is 1.5.5
See https://java.net/projects/javamail/pages/Home
Did the project james-jsieve do this move?
The dependency of james-server-mailets / apache-jsieve-mailet does define a dependency to geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail.
So if we do a maven install, we do get two Mail implementations in the lib directory:
- geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail-1.8.3.jar
- mail-1.4.4.jar
The content of the META-INF/mailcap is different:
Mail-1.4.4.jar: text/plain;; x-java-content-handler=com.sun.mail.handlers.text_plain
Geronimo: text/plain;; x-java-content-handler=org.apache.geronimo.javamail.handlers.TextPlainHandler
So I currently do not know which handler is used. May depend on classloader.
Question:
Should james-jsieve should also switch to mail-1.4.4.jar?
Or does james switch back to geronimo?
(Maybe this would concern activation/geronimo-activation).
Greetings
Bernd
Re: AW: James / James JSieve dependency to Geronimo-Mail [unsigned]
Posted by Matthieu Baechler <mb...@linagora.com>.
Le 26/07/2016 09:54, Bernd Waibel a crit :
> Hello Matthieu,
>
> correct, the james-server project does use javax.mail.
> But I am talking about the "Apache jsieve" project.
Yes, I know
> James:
> The pom.xml of james-server-mailets (james-project/server/mailet/mailets/pom.xml) does have a dependency to apache-jsieve-mailet. Line 76.
> Also the pom.xml of james-server (james-project/server/pom.xml) does have a dependency to apache-jsieve-mailet. Line 873.
>
> jSieve:
> The apache-jsieve-mailet (https://github.com/apache/james-jsieve/blob/master/mailet/pom.xml) does define a dependency to: <artifactId>${javax.mail.artifactId}</artifactId>
> The parent of the mailet is "apache-jsieve" (https://github.com/apache/james-jsieve/blob/master/pom.xml), which defines:
> <javax.mail.groupId>org.apache.geronimo.javamail</javax.mail.groupId>
> <javax.mail.artifactId>geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail</javax.mail.artifactId>
> So jSieve still uses geronimo.
> Is this correct?
Of course
> So when doing a maven build, you get a dependency to geronimo. Due to this fact, the maven build will bundle the mail jar AND (!) the geronimo jar.
> This seems to be wrong. Just my opinion.
>
I agree
> The JSieve Project is a James project (http://james.apache.org/jsieve/index.html).
> So I kindly ask to manage the jSieve project, and switch from geronimo to java-mail.
> I could not provide a tested patch here, I do not use jSieve, and we do not have experience with jSieve.
>
> What do you think?
> a) Should jsieve switch to geronimo?
Yes
> b) If yes, can you or someone else change and test this?
If you propose a PR, we'll test it and will do the merge.
> c) If no, do you want to use both java-mail implementations? Or should a copy process remove the geronimo files from deployment?
>
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Matthieu Baechler
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AW: James / James JSieve dependency to Geronimo-Mail [unsigned]
Posted by Bernd Waibel <BW...@intarsys.de>.
Hello Matthieu,
correct, the james-server project does use javax.mail.
But I am talking about the "Apache jsieve" project.
James:
The pom.xml of james-server-mailets (james-project/server/mailet/mailets/pom.xml) does have a dependency to apache-jsieve-mailet. Line 76.
Also the pom.xml of james-server (james-project/server/pom.xml) does have a dependency to apache-jsieve-mailet. Line 873.
jSieve:
The apache-jsieve-mailet (https://github.com/apache/james-jsieve/blob/master/mailet/pom.xml) does define a dependency to: <artifactId>${javax.mail.artifactId}</artifactId>
The parent of the mailet is "apache-jsieve" (https://github.com/apache/james-jsieve/blob/master/pom.xml), which defines:
<javax.mail.groupId>org.apache.geronimo.javamail</javax.mail.groupId>
<javax.mail.artifactId>geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail</javax.mail.artifactId>
So jSieve still uses geronimo.
Is this correct?
So when doing a maven build, you get a dependency to geronimo. Due to this fact, the maven build will bundle the mail jar AND (!) the geronimo jar.
This seems to be wrong. Just my opinion.
The JSieve Project is a James project (http://james.apache.org/jsieve/index.html).
So I kindly ask to manage the jSieve project, and switch from geronimo to java-mail.
I could not provide a tested patch here, I do not use jSieve, and we do not have experience with jSieve.
What do you think?
a) Should jsieve switch to geronimo?
b) If yes, can you or someone else change and test this?
c) If no, do you want to use both java-mail implementations? Or should a copy process remove the geronimo files from deployment?
Thanks
Bernd
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Gesendet: Montag, 25. Juli 2016 18:19
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Betreff: Re: James / James JSieve dependency to Geronimo-Mail [unsigned]
Everything should switch to javamail now, as fas as I remember I did the
switch on james-server some times ago.
--
Matthieu Baechler
On 07/25/2016 04:32 PM, Bernd Waibel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> we have runtime issues (class cast exception) using James3 due to the usage of java-mail-1.4.4 together with Geronimo-mail.
> We are currently in testing, so we try to fix some runtime issues before going to production.
>
> There have been a discussion to go back (again) from Geronimo to java-mail.
> Java-mail is now developed by java.net, currently release is 1.5.5
> See https://java.net/projects/javamail/pages/Home
>
> Did the project james-jsieve do this move?
>
> The dependency of james-server-mailets / apache-jsieve-mailet does define a dependency to geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail.
> So if we do a maven install, we do get two Mail implementations in the lib directory:
>
> - geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail-1.8.3.jar
>
> - mail-1.4.4.jar
>
> The content of the META-INF/mailcap is different:
> Mail-1.4.4.jar: text/plain;; x-java-content-handler=com.sun.mail.handlers.text_plain
> Geronimo: text/plain;; x-java-content-handler=org.apache.geronimo.javamail.handlers.TextPlainHandler
> So I currently do not know which handler is used. May depend on classloader.
>
> Question:
> Should james-jsieve should also switch to mail-1.4.4.jar?
> Or does james switch back to geronimo?
>
> (Maybe this would concern activation/geronimo-activation).
>
>
> Greetings
> Bernd
>
>
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Re: James / James JSieve dependency to Geronimo-Mail [unsigned]
Posted by Matthieu Baechler <mb...@linagora.com>.
Everything should switch to javamail now, as fas as I remember I did the
switch on james-server some times ago.
--
Matthieu Baechler
On 07/25/2016 04:32 PM, Bernd Waibel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> we have runtime issues (class cast exception) using James3 due to the usage of java-mail-1.4.4 together with Geronimo-mail.
> We are currently in testing, so we try to fix some runtime issues before going to production.
>
> There have been a discussion to go back (again) from Geronimo to java-mail.
> Java-mail is now developed by java.net, currently release is 1.5.5
> See https://java.net/projects/javamail/pages/Home
>
> Did the project james-jsieve do this move?
>
> The dependency of james-server-mailets / apache-jsieve-mailet does define a dependency to geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail.
> So if we do a maven install, we do get two Mail implementations in the lib directory:
>
> - geronimo-javamail_1.4_mail-1.8.3.jar
>
> - mail-1.4.4.jar
>
> The content of the META-INF/mailcap is different:
> Mail-1.4.4.jar: text/plain;; x-java-content-handler=com.sun.mail.handlers.text_plain
> Geronimo: text/plain;; x-java-content-handler=org.apache.geronimo.javamail.handlers.TextPlainHandler
> So I currently do not know which handler is used. May depend on classloader.
>
> Question:
> Should james-jsieve should also switch to mail-1.4.4.jar?
> Or does james switch back to geronimo?
>
> (Maybe this would concern activation/geronimo-activation).
>
>
> Greetings
> Bernd
>
>
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