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Posted to dev@gearpump.apache.org by Manu Zhang <ow...@gmail.com> on 2018/09/09 07:37:41 UTC

[DISCUSS] Retire Gearpump

Hi all,

Gearpump has been an Apache incubator since 2016-03-08. Thank you all for
help to  incubate Gearpump and keep it move forward.

The activity around Gearpump has, however, slowed down and the last release
was more than one year ago. There is no sign of a growing community, which
is a requirement to be a Apache TLP. The long period of release process has
made things even harder for such a slim community.

I don't see a future for Gearpump within Apache so it's better off to
leave.

What do you think ?

Thanks,
Manu Zhang

Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Gearpump

Posted by Kam Kasravi <ka...@gmail.com>.
 I think it also should be considered since it never really got traction as a beam runner or within alpakka. For alpakka the concept of alternative ActorMaterializer's was never really fully embraced. I think it came very close to getting community traction but lost its core group of people driving its development.
    On Sunday, September 9, 2018, 11:47:10 AM PDT, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:  
 
 Hi Manu,

unfortunately, even if I think Gearpump is a very interesting project, I
think we don't have a large community around.

Especially, the dev activity is low, and I agree with you that
retirement should be considered.

Regards
JB

On 09/09/2018 09:37, Manu Zhang wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Gearpump has been an Apache incubator since 2016-03-08. Thank you all for
> help to  incubate Gearpump and keep it move forward.
> 
> The activity around Gearpump has, however, slowed down and the last release
> was more than one year ago. There is no sign of a growing community, which
> is a requirement to be a Apache TLP. The long period of release process has
> made things even harder for such a slim community.
> 
> I don't see a future for Gearpump within Apache so it's better off to
> leave.
> 
> What do you think ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Manu Zhang
> 

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
  

Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Gearpump

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Manu,

unfortunately, even if I think Gearpump is a very interesting project, I
think we don't have a large community around.

Especially, the dev activity is low, and I agree with you that
retirement should be considered.

Regards
JB

On 09/09/2018 09:37, Manu Zhang wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Gearpump has been an Apache incubator since 2016-03-08. Thank you all for
> help to  incubate Gearpump and keep it move forward.
> 
> The activity around Gearpump has, however, slowed down and the last release
> was more than one year ago. There is no sign of a growing community, which
> is a requirement to be a Apache TLP. The long period of release process has
> made things even harder for such a slim community.
> 
> I don't see a future for Gearpump within Apache so it's better off to
> leave.
> 
> What do you think ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Manu Zhang
> 

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Gearpump

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Thanks,

please, let me know if you need help.

Regards
JB

On 13/09/2018 07:43, Manu Zhang wrote:
> Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts. It seems we've reached an
> consensus.
> I'm going to start a formal vote thread and please cast your vote there.
> 
> Thanks,
> Manu
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:22 PM Karol Brejna <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Manu,
>>
>> Thanks for bringing this difficult topic.
>>
>> I was struggling with it myself.
>>
>> Here are my thoughts:
>>
>> Our main objectives were to build the community and gain more adoption.
>>
>> Although there was some considerable interest, I think we were not able to
>> build a stable and sizable community around our project.
>>
>> We have identified some "technical" goals to achieve as the next steps.
>> Without a broader community, I think we won't be able to keep a decent
>> development activity and release pace.
>>
>> It doesn't look that the situation (community) would change any time soon,
>> so - with a heavy heart - I must agree that it would be only fair to the
>> Apache community to retire Gearpump.
>>
>> I am hoping we'll continue working on Gearpump in some other "formula" in
>> the future, as it has some strengths and is cool to use and develop ;-)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Karol
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:38 AM Manu Zhang <ow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Gearpump has been an Apache incubator since 2016-03-08. Thank you all for
>>> help to  incubate Gearpump and keep it move forward.
>>>
>>> The activity around Gearpump has, however, slowed down and the last
>> release
>>> was more than one year ago. There is no sign of a growing community,
>> which
>>> is a requirement to be a Apache TLP. The long period of release process
>> has
>>> made things even harder for such a slim community.
>>>
>>> I don't see a future for Gearpump within Apache so it's better off to
>>> leave.
>>>
>>> What do you think ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Manu Zhang
>>>
>>
> 

-- 
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com

Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Gearpump

Posted by Manu Zhang <ow...@gmail.com>.
Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts. It seems we've reached an
consensus.
I'm going to start a formal vote thread and please cast your vote there.

Thanks,
Manu





On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:22 PM Karol Brejna <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Manu,
>
> Thanks for bringing this difficult topic.
>
> I was struggling with it myself.
>
> Here are my thoughts:
>
> Our main objectives were to build the community and gain more adoption.
>
> Although there was some considerable interest, I think we were not able to
> build a stable and sizable community around our project.
>
> We have identified some "technical" goals to achieve as the next steps.
> Without a broader community, I think we won't be able to keep a decent
> development activity and release pace.
>
> It doesn't look that the situation (community) would change any time soon,
> so - with a heavy heart - I must agree that it would be only fair to the
> Apache community to retire Gearpump.
>
> I am hoping we'll continue working on Gearpump in some other "formula" in
> the future, as it has some strengths and is cool to use and develop ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Karol
>
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:38 AM Manu Zhang <ow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Gearpump has been an Apache incubator since 2016-03-08. Thank you all for
> > help to  incubate Gearpump and keep it move forward.
> >
> > The activity around Gearpump has, however, slowed down and the last
> release
> > was more than one year ago. There is no sign of a growing community,
> which
> > is a requirement to be a Apache TLP. The long period of release process
> has
> > made things even harder for such a slim community.
> >
> > I don't see a future for Gearpump within Apache so it's better off to
> > leave.
> >
> > What do you think ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Manu Zhang
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Gearpump

Posted by Karol Brejna <ka...@gmail.com>.
Manu,

Thanks for bringing this difficult topic.

I was struggling with it myself.

Here are my thoughts:

Our main objectives were to build the community and gain more adoption.

Although there was some considerable interest, I think we were not able to
build a stable and sizable community around our project.

We have identified some "technical" goals to achieve as the next steps.
Without a broader community, I think we won't be able to keep a decent
development activity and release pace.

It doesn't look that the situation (community) would change any time soon,
so - with a heavy heart - I must agree that it would be only fair to the
Apache community to retire Gearpump.

I am hoping we'll continue working on Gearpump in some other "formula" in
the future, as it has some strengths and is cool to use and develop ;-)

Regards,
Karol

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 9:38 AM Manu Zhang <ow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Gearpump has been an Apache incubator since 2016-03-08. Thank you all for
> help to  incubate Gearpump and keep it move forward.
>
> The activity around Gearpump has, however, slowed down and the last release
> was more than one year ago. There is no sign of a growing community, which
> is a requirement to be a Apache TLP. The long period of release process has
> made things even harder for such a slim community.
>
> I don't see a future for Gearpump within Apache so it's better off to
> leave.
>
> What do you think ?
>
> Thanks,
> Manu Zhang
>