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[GitHub] [spark] bryanck opened a new pull request, #37950: [SPARK-40505][K8S] Remove min heap setting for executor in entrypoint.sh

bryanck opened a new pull request, #37950:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/37950

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   This PR removes the min heap setting (`-Xms`) from the JVM args when starting the executor process.
   
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   Removing the min heap setting is consistent with the settings for the YARN executor process and allows the JVM to reduce the heap when needed to reduce memory consumption.
   
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   We have this change deployed in our production environment to solve for OOM kills we were experiencing when running in K8S but were not seeing when running in YARN.


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[GitHub] [spark] bryanck commented on pull request #37950: [SPARK-40505][K8S] Remove min heap setting for executor in entrypoint.sh

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
bryanck commented on PR #37950:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/37950#issuecomment-1256420693

   I don't believe it is best practice to set a fixed JVM heap on k8s and not on YARN. If that is the case, I would be very interested in reading more about that.


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[GitHub] [spark] dongjoon-hyun commented on pull request #37950: [SPARK-40505][K8S] Remove min heap setting for executor in entrypoint.sh

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dongjoon-hyun commented on PR #37950:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/37950#issuecomment-1256313145

   You can propose to YARN committers as a YARN PR, but I believe we don't want to make any surprise to the existing YARN users when there is no issue there like you mentioned. Although consistency is good in general, there is a reason why we have separate resource manager modules like K8s, YARN, Mesos.


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[GitHub] [spark] bryanck commented on pull request #37950: [SPARK-40505][K8S] Remove min heap setting for executor in entrypoint.sh

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bryanck commented on PR #37950:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/37950#issuecomment-1256321893

   I don't follow how a YARN PR will help? AFAIK, the executor heap is [set by Spark](https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/07061f1a07a96f59ae42c9df6110eb784d2f3dab/resource-managers/yarn/src/main/scala/org/apache/spark/deploy/yarn/ExecutorRunnable.scala#L132)


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[GitHub] [spark] dongjoon-hyun closed pull request #37950: [SPARK-40505][K8S] Remove min heap setting for executor in entrypoint.sh

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dongjoon-hyun closed pull request #37950: [SPARK-40505][K8S] Remove min heap setting for executor in entrypoint.sh
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/37950


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[GitHub] [spark] dongjoon-hyun commented on pull request #37950: [SPARK-40505][K8S] Remove min heap setting for executor in entrypoint.sh

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
dongjoon-hyun commented on PR #37950:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/37950#issuecomment-1256397614

   I mean K8s module has been choosing the best practice in K8s control plane and I believe YARN module is the same situation I guess.
   > You mentioned there is a reason for the different modules, can you explain the reason k8s is configured to use a fixed heap size and YARN does not?
   
   I seems that you misunderstand. Your PR description claim like that, not me. This is what you wrote, `settings for the YARN executor process and allows the JVM to reduce the heap when needed to reduce memory consumption.`, in this PR description, isn't it?
   > I don't follow how a YARN PR will help?


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[GitHub] [spark] bryanck commented on pull request #37950: [SPARK-40505][K8S] Remove min heap setting for executor in entrypoint.sh

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bryanck commented on PR #37950:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/37950#issuecomment-1256316102

   You mentioned there is a reason for the different modules, can you explain the reason k8s is configured to use a fixed heap size and YARN does not?


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AmplabJenkins commented on PR #37950:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/37950#issuecomment-1252898093

   Can one of the admins verify this patch?


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[GitHub] [spark] bryanck commented on pull request #37950: [SPARK-40505][K8S] Remove min heap setting for executor in entrypoint.sh

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
bryanck commented on PR #37950:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/37950#issuecomment-1256128312

   Thanks for pointing out memory settings @dongjoon-hyun , the goal of this PR is to bring more consistent memory usage behavior between YARN and k8s rather than to solve for a specific use case. If the community has determined a fixed heap size is optimal, then that should be set for YARN as well, unless there is some reasoning for the difference.


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[GitHub] [spark] dongjoon-hyun commented on pull request #37950: [SPARK-40505][K8S] Remove min heap setting for executor in entrypoint.sh

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dongjoon-hyun commented on PR #37950:
URL: https://github.com/apache/spark/pull/37950#issuecomment-1256313494

   Let me close this PR for now. We can continue our discussion on this PR.


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