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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by David Crossley <cr...@apache.org> on 2004/05/15 10:16:37 UTC

minimise Wiki vandalism (Was: Wiki conversion status)

Andreas Hochsteger wrote:
> David Crossley schrieb:
> > Is it possible to generate a list of vandalised pages?
> > For example one pattern is "emmss.com".
> 
> Google has brought up a list, although it is not as efficient (and 
> actual) as a find/grep:
> http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awiki.cocoondev.org+Wiki.jsp+emmss.com
> But it gives you some impression, without needing access to the Wiki server.
> 
> > On the other hand, we could probably run some 'find | grep'
> > commands on the server-side after the conversion.
> > 
> > --David
> 
> Andreas.

Thanks. Of course Google is probably out-of-date.
We have Antonio on our side and probably all those
are now found.

The interesting point that this raises is that this particular
attacker is only going for Main, LeftMenu, LeftMenuFooter, SandBox
which are common pages. I think that this might support my
hypothesis about an automated attacker.

--David



Re: minimise Wiki vandalism (Was: Wiki conversion status)

Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jo...@gmx.de>.
On 15.05.2004 10:16, David Crossley wrote:

> The interesting point that this raises is that this particular
> attacker is only going for Main, LeftMenu, LeftMenuFooter, SandBox
> which are common pages. I think that this might support my
> hypothesis about an automated attacker.

I don't follow. They use just the most obvious pages. And additionally 
the recent changes:
Bertrand has added 
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=BenchmarkingWithAb, short 
time later the first spam was on it.
I have added Claas and myself to the 
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=CocoonUserGroupThuringia, 
short time later Claas was named Cialis: 
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Diff.jsp?page=CocoonUserGroupThuringia&r1=11&r2=10.

Joerg

Re: minimise Wiki vandalism (Was: Wiki conversion status)

Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
David Crossley dijo:
> Andreas Hochsteger wrote:
>> David Crossley schrieb:
>> > Is it possible to generate a list of vandalised pages?
>> > For example one pattern is "emmss.com".
>>
>> Google has brought up a list, although it is not as efficient (and
>> actual) as a find/grep:
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awiki.cocoondev.org+Wiki.jsp+emmss.com
>> But it gives you some impression, without needing access to the Wiki
>> server.
>>
>> > On the other hand, we could probably run some 'find | grep'
>> > commands on the server-side after the conversion.
>> >
>> > --David
>>
>> Andreas.
>
> Thanks. Of course Google is probably out-of-date.
> We have Antonio on our side and probably all those
> are now found.
>
> The interesting point that this raises is that this particular
> attacker is only going for Main, LeftMenu, LeftMenuFooter, SandBox
> which are common pages. I think that this might support my
> hypothesis about an automated attacker.

Yep. I have the same concerns. This is an automated attack.

Good news: Since the introduction of new politics on wiki. The are
decresing the ranking list. Yesterday for "emmss" was 17,700 pages. Before
going to sleep there was 16,600. And now are: 19,300 links on google:

http://www.google.com.ni/search?q=emmss&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search

As far as other wiki sites does not start fight against abuse, the rate of
attacks will increase. I just hope our politics will have results. Even a
minimal result is good, because that means we don't go back and redo the
work. That means we save our efforts.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.