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[DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
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Hello all --
OpenOffice has been participating in FOSDEM for quite some
time. For the upcoming FOSDEM in 2016, the ASF will also be
participating. Because of the new ASF "stand" participation,
it has been suggested to request a set of tables -- one to
accommodate the ASF as a single entity, and additional
tables as needed for individual project participation.
The discussion thread on this has stared on
dev@community.apache.org if you want to take a look at that
list. Also, please see the wiki reference below for
additional details on what has been suggested.
Of course, as in the past, we will lend whatever support we
can to volunteers at FOSDEM. Please express your interest so
this can be coordinated with the ASF plans for FOSDEM.
Thanks.
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Subject: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 09:43:27 +0200
From: Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>
Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org
To: dev@community.apache.org
On 09/25/2015 09:11 AM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I've just seen this call for participation at FOSDEM and I know we
> talked about getting more of an Apache presence there.
>
> https://fosdem.org/2016/news/2015-09-24-call-for-participation/
Indeedy, I was notified by FOSDEM staff about this, and will
note that
the ASF has formally requested a stand at FOSDEM 2016.
Time will tell what sort of stand we'll get (how big etc),
but we should
plan ahead and _assume_ we'll get two tables (might get one,
might get
three, but let's assume two).
This will require 3-4 volunteers at most times (not to speak
of endless
amounts of swag to give away), so I would imagine we'd need
at least
double that in available people, so as to do it in shifts.
Depending on the number of projects that are interested in a
presence at
FOSDEM, we'll likely do a rotation, so that each project get
N hours of
fame at the stand. FOSDEM has notified us that they are
really limited
on space this time around, due to the huge interest in this
from FOSS
communities, so if we can help them by rotating a bit, that
would work
out for everyone. Having been to previous FOSDEMs, I can
also say with
some certainty, that you won't risk getting the "boring time
slot", as
the stands are pretty much always crowded.
With regards,
Daniel.
>
> Earlier this year I think Jan setup a wiki page setup about it and
> called for volunteers.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016
>
> I'd like to help so please can someone grant me karma to the Comdev
> cwiki? (username is sharan)
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Amir Tajida <am...@gmail.com>.
SM-G900F
On Oct 11, 2015 12:36 AM, "Andrea Pescetti" <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 06/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar
>> to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).
>>
>
> This was sent yesterday. I didn't CC the list since submissions now happen
> through a web form, but content is not much different from the 2015
> submission linked above.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Amir Tajida <am...@gmail.com>.
SM-G900F
On Oct 11, 2015 12:36 AM, "Andrea Pescetti" <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 06/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar
>> to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).
>>
>
> This was sent yesterday. I didn't CC the list since submissions now happen
> through a web form, but content is not much different from the 2015
> submission linked above.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 06/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar
> to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).
This was sent yesterday. I didn't CC the list since submissions now
happen through a web form, but content is not much different from the
2015 submission linked above.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 06/10/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar
> to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).
This was sent yesterday. I didn't CC the list since submissions now
happen through a web form, but content is not much different from the
2015 submission linked above.
Regards,
Andrea.
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> just wanted to let you guys know that I've just submitted
> a proposal for Big Data and Data Science devroom for
> FOSDEM.
Good!
> Not sure how to increase our chances of being accepted,
> but would love any feedback on that.
Both booths/stands and devrooms are accepted (or rejected) directly by
the FOSDEM organizers, with (as far as I know) no way to influence the
decision. But organizers prefer to see devrooms that focus on one topic
rather than one software and that gather similar projects.
Acceptance of a stand and/or a devroom for the same project are
independent. So a stand for OpenOffice is unrelated to a devroom for ODF
Editors. And a stand for Apache is unrelated to a devroom for Big Data
projects. And different Apache projects can show up in different
devrooms since they apply to different areas.
I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar
to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).
Regards,
Andrea.
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
> just wanted to let you guys know that I've just submitted
> a proposal for Big Data and Data Science devroom for
> FOSDEM.
Good!
> Not sure how to increase our chances of being accepted,
> but would love any feedback on that.
Both booths/stands and devrooms are accepted (or rejected) directly by
the FOSDEM organizers, with (as far as I know) no way to influence the
decision. But organizers prefer to see devrooms that focus on one topic
rather than one software and that gather similar projects.
Acceptance of a stand and/or a devroom for the same project are
independent. So a stand for OpenOffice is unrelated to a devroom for ODF
Editors. And a stand for Apache is unrelated to a devroom for Big Data
projects. And different Apache projects can show up in different
devrooms since they apply to different areas.
I'm going to submit a proposal for an ODF Editors devroom too, similar
to http://s.apache.org/ved (the one we sent last year).
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
Hi!
just wanted to let you guys know that I've just submitted
a proposal for Big Data and Data Science devroom for
FOSDEM. ASF is the org that can make it a really successfull
DEVROOM and last year the feedback was asking for
something like this big time.
Not sure how to increase our chances of being accepted,
but would love any feedback on that.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:59 AM, RA Stehmann
<an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote:
> On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
>>> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
>>> FOSDEM 2016.
>>
>> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
>> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
>> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
>
> Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
> FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
> Apache OpenOffice.
>
> Apache is one of the major (and greatest ;-) ) projects in the Free
> Software world.
>
>>
>>> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
>>> FOSDEM with a booth.
>>
>> I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
>> request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
>> request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
>> were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
>> would share the table.
>
> We might get a problem, if both booths are granted, but in different
> places. It isn't a proper behavior to quit one of the booths in that case.
>
>>
>> So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
>> try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
>>
>> It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
>> (deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
>> lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
>> the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
>> whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
>>
>
> Perhaps we should make a conditional request. But the best thing would
> be, that Daniel ask the orga sufficiently early before the deadline.
> They are all nice human beings.
>
> Regards
> Michael
>
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 29/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
> On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
>> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
>> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
> Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
> FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
> Apache OpenOffice.
Time passed and it seems today (Friday) is the last day for proposing a
stand/booth. As things stand now, with no information at all, probably
it would make sense to submit a quick request on behalf of OpenOffice
saying that we would accept (and we recommend!) that the request is
merged with the Apache one (I mean, the one reportedly sent by Daniel),
and that Apache can get adequate table space for the merged booth, on
the ground floor.
I'm not going to submit it; I'm leaving this to Michael for
consideration. Of course, if we already know that Daniel's request will
be accepted, there is no reason for submitting this "extra" request.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 29/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
> On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
>> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
>> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
> Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
> FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
> Apache OpenOffice.
Time passed and it seems today (Friday) is the last day for proposing a
stand/booth. As things stand now, with no information at all, probably
it would make sense to submit a quick request on behalf of OpenOffice
saying that we would accept (and we recommend!) that the request is
merged with the Apache one (I mean, the one reportedly sent by Daniel),
and that Apache can get adequate table space for the merged booth, on
the ground floor.
I'm not going to submit it; I'm leaving this to Michael for
consideration. Of course, if we already know that Daniel's request will
be accepted, there is no reason for submitting this "extra" request.
Regards,
Andrea.
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
Hi!
just wanted to let you guys know that I've just submitted
a proposal for Big Data and Data Science devroom for
FOSDEM. ASF is the org that can make it a really successfull
DEVROOM and last year the feedback was asking for
something like this big time.
Not sure how to increase our chances of being accepted,
but would love any feedback on that.
Thanks,
Roman.
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 10:59 AM, RA Stehmann
<an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote:
> On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
>>> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
>>> FOSDEM 2016.
>>
>> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
>> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
>> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
>
> Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
> FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
> Apache OpenOffice.
>
> Apache is one of the major (and greatest ;-) ) projects in the Free
> Software world.
>
>>
>>> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
>>> FOSDEM with a booth.
>>
>> I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
>> request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
>> request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
>> were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
>> would share the table.
>
> We might get a problem, if both booths are granted, but in different
> places. It isn't a proper behavior to quit one of the booths in that case.
>
>>
>> So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
>> try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
>>
>> It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
>> (deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
>> lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
>> the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
>> whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
>>
>
> Perhaps we should make a conditional request. But the best thing would
> be, that Daniel ask the orga sufficiently early before the deadline.
> They are all nice human beings.
>
> Regards
> Michael
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>.
On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
>> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
>> FOSDEM 2016.
>
> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
Apache OpenOffice.
Apache is one of the major (and greatest ;-) ) projects in the Free
Software world.
>
>> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
>> FOSDEM with a booth.
>
> I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
> request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
> request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
> were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
> would share the table.
We might get a problem, if both booths are granted, but in different
places. It isn't a proper behavior to quit one of the booths in that case.
>
> So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
> try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
>
> It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
> (deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
> lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
> the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
> whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
>
Perhaps we should make a conditional request. But the best thing would
be, that Daniel ask the orga sufficiently early before the deadline.
They are all nice human beings.
Regards
Michael
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>.
On 28.09.2015 23:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
>> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
>> FOSDEM 2016.
>
> So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
> don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
> OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
Before your posting, I've no doubts, that Apache will get a booth at
FOSDEM, if they ask for it. Especially, if they say, they will come with
Apache OpenOffice.
Apache is one of the major (and greatest ;-) ) projects in the Free
Software world.
>
>> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
>> FOSDEM with a booth.
>
> I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
> request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
> request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
> were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
> would share the table.
We might get a problem, if both booths are granted, but in different
places. It isn't a proper behavior to quit one of the booths in that case.
>
> So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
> try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
>
> It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
> (deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
> lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
> the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
> whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
>
Perhaps we should make a conditional request. But the best thing would
be, that Daniel ask the orga sufficiently early before the deadline.
They are all nice human beings.
Regards
Michael
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
> FOSDEM 2016.
So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
> FOSDEM with a booth.
I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
would share the table.
So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
(deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 28/09/2015 RA Stehmann wrote:
> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
> FOSDEM 2016.
So you think it's better not to apply (additionally) as OpenOffice? We
don't have any assurance that the ASF will be granted a stand, and
OpenOffice has always been granted one for years.
> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
> FOSDEM with a booth.
I was assuming/understanding that we would have sent both the OpenOffice
request (highly likely to be approved; but less important) and the ASF
request (new, so less likely; but more important). And that, if both
were approved, we would merge the tables, or if one was approved we
would share the table.
So no doubt we would all be together, in any case; I thought we would
try and maximize the chance of getting a presence.
It appears Daniel has already sent a request on behalf on the ASF
(deadline is in November) but I haven't seen it at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016 or on the
lists, so I have no idea about the contents. I just want to be sure that
the ASF at large, and OpenOffice as part of it, get a presence under
whatever name; and that we maximize our chances to be at FOSDEM.
Regards,
Andrea.
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>.
On 28.09.2015 22:45, Guy Waterval wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm intending to come to help you on the stand for french speakers. It will
> be a real pleasure to meet you again.
>
> Regards
>
We also look forward to meet you again.
Regards
Michael
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>.
On 28.09.2015 22:45, Guy Waterval wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm intending to come to help you on the stand for french speakers. It will
> be a real pleasure to meet you again.
>
> Regards
>
We also look forward to meet you again.
Regards
Michael
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Guy Waterval <wa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I'm intending to come to help you on the stand for french speakers. It will
be a real pleasure to meet you again.
Regards
--
gw
2015-09-28 9:48 GMT+02:00 RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>:
> Hello,
>
> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
> FOSDEM 2016.
>
> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
> FOSDEM with a booth.
>
> Kind regards
> Michael
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Guy Waterval <wa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I'm intending to come to help you on the stand for french speakers. It will
be a real pleasure to meet you again.
Regards
--
gw
2015-09-28 9:48 GMT+02:00 RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>:
> Hello,
>
> as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
> FOSDEM 2016.
>
> It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
> FOSDEM with a booth.
>
> Kind regards
> Michael
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>.
Hello,
as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
FOSDEM 2016.
It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
FOSDEM with a booth.
Kind regards
Michael
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by RA Stehmann <an...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de>.
Hello,
as promised Mechtilde and I will join the Apache booth (stand) team at
FOSDEM 2016.
It's a great pleasure for us, that the greater Apache Community joins
FOSDEM with a booth.
Kind regards
Michael
Re: [DISCUSS] Fwd: Re: FOSDEM 2016 - Call for Participation
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 26/09/2015 Kay Schenk wrote:
> OpenOffice has been participating in FOSDEM for quite some
> time. For the upcoming FOSDEM in 2016, the ASF will also be
> participating. Because of the new ASF "stand" participation,
> it has been suggested to request a set of tables -- one to
> accommodate the ASF as a single entity, and additional
> tables as needed for individual project participation.
Participation at FOSDEM happens in different ways. As for the
tables/stands/booths, the understanding in
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/FOSDEM+2016
is that OpenOffice will still have to ask for a booth independently, as
we (specifically, Michael and Mechtilde) have always done.
If then BOTH the OpenOffice table and the generic ASF table are
accepted, then it surely makes sense to ask to be placed next to each
other and to share space in the most effective way. But at the moment
nothing changes with respect to the usual process.
Deadline for applying is:
- 9 October (very close) for a devroom (track)
- 13 November for stands
Regards,
Andrea.
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