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Posted to user@nutch.apache.org by Benjamin Higgins <bh...@gmail.com> on 2006/08/02 01:22:19 UTC

Questions about (re)crawling

Hello,

Is it neccesary or desirable to run updatesegs and/or merge for a
single-machine setup that crawls ~1 million pages?

I ask because it appears that the 'crawl' tool, specifically for intranets,
runs these commands, but they aren't included in the whole-web instructions
in the tutorial.

Also, can Nutch still service search queries while it is going through the
whole generate, fetch, updatedb, index, dedup process?  At what point do the
new segments become searchable -- right after indexing?

Thanks!

Ben

Re: Questions about (re)crawling

Posted by Benjamin Higgins <bh...@gmail.com>.
On 8/1/06, Matthew Holt <mh...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Benjamin Higgins wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is it neccesary or desirable to run updatesegs and/or merge for a
> > single-machine setup that crawls ~1 million pages?
> >
>
> Merge you  need too i know.. you have to sync the segs with the crawldb
> if that is what you are referring to.


I just mean that the 'manual' instructions leave these steps out, but
searching seems to work fine anyway. Why is that?



Ben

Re: Questions about (re)crawling

Posted by Matthew Holt <mh...@redhat.com>.
If you look at my script.. the way I accomplished this without 
restarting tomcat was by touching the web.xml file within the servlet 
nutch dir

Benjamin Higgins wrote:
> On 8/1/06, Matthew Holt <mh...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Also, can Nutch still service search queries while it is going through
>> > the
>> > whole generate, fetch, updatedb, index, dedup process?  At what point
>> > do the
>> > new segments become searchable -- right after indexing?
>> >
>> Yes.. however the new segments only become searchable once the recrawl
>> process is done (indexes are merged i believe) and the tomcat instance
>> reloads the webapp.
>>
>
> Ah - so Tomcat *must* be reloaded?  I was hoping to avoid that.  Oh well.
>
> Ben
>

Re: Questions about (re)crawling

Posted by Benjamin Higgins <bh...@gmail.com>.
On 8/1/06, Matthew Holt <mh...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Also, can Nutch still service search queries while it is going through
> > the
> > whole generate, fetch, updatedb, index, dedup process?  At what point
> > do the
> > new segments become searchable -- right after indexing?
> >
> Yes.. however the new segments only become searchable once the recrawl
> process is done (indexes are merged i believe) and the tomcat instance
> reloads the webapp.
>

Ah - so Tomcat *must* be reloaded?  I was hoping to avoid that.  Oh well.

Ben

Re: Questions about (re)crawling

Posted by Matthew Holt <mh...@redhat.com>.

Benjamin Higgins wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is it neccesary or desirable to run updatesegs and/or merge for a
> single-machine setup that crawls ~1 million pages?
>

Merge you  need too i know.. you have to sync the segs with the crawldb 
if that is what you are referring to.
> I ask because it appears that the 'crawl' tool, specifically for 
> intranets,
> runs these commands, but they aren't included in the whole-web 
> instructions
> in the tutorial.
>
> Also, can Nutch still service search queries while it is going through 
> the
> whole generate, fetch, updatedb, index, dedup process?  At what point 
> do the
> new segments become searchable -- right after indexing?
>
Yes.. however the new segments only become searchable once the recrawl 
process is done (indexes are merged i believe) and the tomcat instance 
reloads the webapp.

> Thanks!
>
> Ben
>