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[DISCUSS] beanval module name
Hi all
One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean Validation module is that
the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the name "beanval"
since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" that could easily be
read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related to JSR303 support.
One of the other names proposed is "bv."
If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about the given names,
could you speak up?
John
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by Thomas Andraschko <an...@gmail.com>.
+1 for bv (similiar to jpa, jsf, ...)
2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache impl. So id use
> bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things
> Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean Validation module is
> that
> > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the name "beanval"
> > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" that could easily
> be
> > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related to JSR303
> > support.
> >
> > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> >
> > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about the given names,
> > could you speak up?
> >
> > John
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
works for me, so waiting for the vote
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
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2013/6/16 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
> we won't get a full agreement on that. we just need a majority for one
> abbreviation.
> if you don't agree (for whatever reason) with "bv" (which was coined by the
> eg and is used since years), you are welcome to vote for a different
> abbreviation.
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
>
>
> 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>
> > codi is not that used, and not sure bv is explicit enough in all
> languages.
> >
> > hibernate uses "validator", other can use jsr330/jsr349. Since this
> module
> > can be an in between 330 and 349 maybe using jsr330 is good but IMO has
> the
> > same drawback as "bv". If you don't follow specs and/or dev them you
> don't
> > know what it is.
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/6/16 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > we never had an issue with that in codi where we use "bv" since 2010.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > gerhard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > even when speaking?
> > > >
> > > > Then the point is who should understand the name, the EG or users.
> > > >
> > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/6/16 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > we (= bv-eg) ~always used "bv". it's even used in the bv-spec.
> > > document.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > gerhard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > whatever the list is IMO, the point was already mentionned: how
> > many
> > > > > times
> > > > > > did you use "bv" to say bean validation? You never say "Java
> > > > Persistence
> > > > > > API" but always jpa, for bval that's the opposite IMO.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I commonly see bval or beanvalidation but not others.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gerhard,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They may use [bv-dev] as a prefix, but the mailing list name is
> > > > > > > beanvalidation-dev.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > > > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > hi john,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > please check e.g. the official eg/dev list [1].
> > > > > > > > the subject of mails starts with "[bv-dev]"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [1] http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/beanvalidation-dev/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > gerhard/thomas
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The problem I have with "bv" is that no one refers to
> > > > > BeanValidation
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > bv
> > > > > > > > > (in fact, Bean Validation is the shortened form of
> JavaBeans
> > > > > > > Validation).
> > > > > > > > > Doing a quick google search on bv shows me some STDs.
> Since
> > > > > google
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > typically stalking me and knows I ask lots of programming
> > > > > questions,
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > would typically return the programming references first.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Doing a google search for "bv bean validation" shows
> > > > > > > beanvalidation.org,
> > > > > > > > > however there are no references to bv on that site.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > romain
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, I think using "bval" ties us closely to the Apache
> impl.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think I generally prefer longer names. For example, we
> > chose
> > > > > > > > > partial-bean rather than pb. If it were bean-val instead
> of
> > > > > beanval,
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > anyone mind that?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > > > > > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > hi john,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...).
> > > > > > > > > > if we don't plan to support multiple versions with
> > separated
> > > > > > > modules, i
> > > > > > > > > > tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for
> > the
> > > > > > modules
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > corresponding specs).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of
> > apache
> > > > > impl.
> > > > > > So
> > > > > > > > id
> > > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > > bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming
> > things
> > > > > > > > > > > Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <
> > > > john.d.ament@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean
> > > > Validation
> > > > > > > module
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose
> > the
> > > > > name
> > > > > > > > > > "beanval"
> > > > > > > > > > > > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation"
> > > that
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > > > easily
> > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being
> > related
> > > > to
> > > > > > > JSR303
> > > > > > > > > > > > support.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions
> about
> > > the
> > > > > > given
> > > > > > > > > > names,
> > > > > > > > > > > > could you speak up?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>.
we won't get a full agreement on that. we just need a majority for one
abbreviation.
if you don't agree (for whatever reason) with "bv" (which was coined by the
eg and is used since years), you are welcome to vote for a different
abbreviation.
regards,
gerhard
2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> codi is not that used, and not sure bv is explicit enough in all languages.
>
> hibernate uses "validator", other can use jsr330/jsr349. Since this module
> can be an in between 330 and 349 maybe using jsr330 is good but IMO has the
> same drawback as "bv". If you don't follow specs and/or dev them you don't
> know what it is.
>
> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>
>
>
> 2013/6/16 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
>
> > we never had an issue with that in codi where we use "bv" since 2010.
> >
> > regards,
> > gerhard
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > even when speaking?
> > >
> > > Then the point is who should understand the name, the EG or users.
> > >
> > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/6/16 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > we (= bv-eg) ~always used "bv". it's even used in the bv-spec.
> > document.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > gerhard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > whatever the list is IMO, the point was already mentionned: how
> many
> > > > times
> > > > > did you use "bv" to say bean validation? You never say "Java
> > > Persistence
> > > > > API" but always jpa, for bval that's the opposite IMO.
> > > > >
> > > > > I commonly see bval or beanvalidation but not others.
> > > > >
> > > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Gerhard,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They may use [bv-dev] as a prefix, but the mailing list name is
> > > > > > beanvalidation-dev.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > hi john,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > please check e.g. the official eg/dev list [1].
> > > > > > > the subject of mails starts with "[bv-dev]"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1] http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/beanvalidation-dev/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > gerhard/thomas
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The problem I have with "bv" is that no one refers to
> > > > BeanValidation
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > bv
> > > > > > > > (in fact, Bean Validation is the shortened form of JavaBeans
> > > > > > Validation).
> > > > > > > > Doing a quick google search on bv shows me some STDs. Since
> > > > google
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > typically stalking me and knows I ask lots of programming
> > > > questions,
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > would typically return the programming references first.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Doing a google search for "bv bean validation" shows
> > > > > > beanvalidation.org,
> > > > > > > > however there are no references to bv on that site.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > romain
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, I think using "bval" ties us closely to the Apache impl.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I think I generally prefer longer names. For example, we
> chose
> > > > > > > > partial-bean rather than pb. If it were bean-val instead of
> > > > beanval,
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > anyone mind that?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > > > > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > hi john,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...).
> > > > > > > > > if we don't plan to support multiple versions with
> separated
> > > > > > modules, i
> > > > > > > > > tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for
> the
> > > > > modules
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > corresponding specs).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of
> apache
> > > > impl.
> > > > > So
> > > > > > > id
> > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming
> things
> > > > > > > > > > Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <
> > > john.d.ament@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean
> > > Validation
> > > > > > module
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose
> the
> > > > name
> > > > > > > > > "beanval"
> > > > > > > > > > > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation"
> > that
> > > > > could
> > > > > > > > easily
> > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being
> related
> > > to
> > > > > > JSR303
> > > > > > > > > > > support.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about
> > the
> > > > > given
> > > > > > > > > names,
> > > > > > > > > > > could you speak up?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
codi is not that used, and not sure bv is explicit enough in all languages.
hibernate uses "validator", other can use jsr330/jsr349. Since this module
can be an in between 330 and 349 maybe using jsr330 is good but IMO has the
same drawback as "bv". If you don't follow specs and/or dev them you don't
know what it is.
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
*Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
*Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
*LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
*Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
2013/6/16 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
> we never had an issue with that in codi where we use "bv" since 2010.
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
>
>
> 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>
> > even when speaking?
> >
> > Then the point is who should understand the name, the EG or users.
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/6/16 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > we (= bv-eg) ~always used "bv". it's even used in the bv-spec.
> document.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > gerhard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > whatever the list is IMO, the point was already mentionned: how many
> > > times
> > > > did you use "bv" to say bean validation? You never say "Java
> > Persistence
> > > > API" but always jpa, for bval that's the opposite IMO.
> > > >
> > > > I commonly see bval or beanvalidation but not others.
> > > >
> > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Gerhard,
> > > > >
> > > > > They may use [bv-dev] as a prefix, but the mailing list name is
> > > > > beanvalidation-dev.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > hi john,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > please check e.g. the official eg/dev list [1].
> > > > > > the subject of mails starts with "[bv-dev]"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/beanvalidation-dev/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > gerhard/thomas
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The problem I have with "bv" is that no one refers to
> > > BeanValidation
> > > > as
> > > > > > bv
> > > > > > > (in fact, Bean Validation is the shortened form of JavaBeans
> > > > > Validation).
> > > > > > > Doing a quick google search on bv shows me some STDs. Since
> > > google
> > > > is
> > > > > > > typically stalking me and knows I ask lots of programming
> > > questions,
> > > > it
> > > > > > > would typically return the programming references first.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doing a google search for "bv bean validation" shows
> > > > > beanvalidation.org,
> > > > > > > however there are no references to bv on that site.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > romain
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, I think using "bval" ties us closely to the Apache impl.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think I generally prefer longer names. For example, we chose
> > > > > > > partial-bean rather than pb. If it were bean-val instead of
> > > beanval,
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > anyone mind that?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > > > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > hi john,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...).
> > > > > > > > if we don't plan to support multiple versions with separated
> > > > > modules, i
> > > > > > > > tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for the
> > > > modules
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > corresponding specs).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache
> > > impl.
> > > > So
> > > > > > id
> > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things
> > > > > > > > > Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <
> > john.d.ament@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > a
> > > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean
> > Validation
> > > > > module
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the
> > > name
> > > > > > > > "beanval"
> > > > > > > > > > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation"
> that
> > > > could
> > > > > > > easily
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related
> > to
> > > > > JSR303
> > > > > > > > > > support.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about
> the
> > > > given
> > > > > > > > names,
> > > > > > > > > > could you speak up?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>.
we never had an issue with that in codi where we use "bv" since 2010.
regards,
gerhard
2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> even when speaking?
>
> Then the point is who should understand the name, the EG or users.
>
> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
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>
>
>
> 2013/6/16 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
>
> > we (= bv-eg) ~always used "bv". it's even used in the bv-spec. document.
> >
> > regards,
> > gerhard
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > whatever the list is IMO, the point was already mentionned: how many
> > times
> > > did you use "bv" to say bean validation? You never say "Java
> Persistence
> > > API" but always jpa, for bval that's the opposite IMO.
> > >
> > > I commonly see bval or beanvalidation but not others.
> > >
> > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Gerhard,
> > > >
> > > > They may use [bv-dev] as a prefix, but the mailing list name is
> > > > beanvalidation-dev.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hi john,
> > > > >
> > > > > please check e.g. the official eg/dev list [1].
> > > > > the subject of mails starts with "[bv-dev]"
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > gerhard
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/beanvalidation-dev/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > gerhard/thomas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem I have with "bv" is that no one refers to
> > BeanValidation
> > > as
> > > > > bv
> > > > > > (in fact, Bean Validation is the shortened form of JavaBeans
> > > > Validation).
> > > > > > Doing a quick google search on bv shows me some STDs. Since
> > google
> > > is
> > > > > > typically stalking me and knows I ask lots of programming
> > questions,
> > > it
> > > > > > would typically return the programming references first.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Doing a google search for "bv bean validation" shows
> > > > beanvalidation.org,
> > > > > > however there are no references to bv on that site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > romain
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, I think using "bval" ties us closely to the Apache impl.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think I generally prefer longer names. For example, we chose
> > > > > > partial-bean rather than pb. If it were bean-val instead of
> > beanval,
> > > > > would
> > > > > > anyone mind that?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > hi john,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...).
> > > > > > > if we don't plan to support multiple versions with separated
> > > > modules, i
> > > > > > > tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for the
> > > modules
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > corresponding specs).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache
> > impl.
> > > So
> > > > > id
> > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things
> > > > > > > > Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <
> john.d.ament@gmail.com
> > >
> > > a
> > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean
> Validation
> > > > module
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the
> > name
> > > > > > > "beanval"
> > > > > > > > > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" that
> > > could
> > > > > > easily
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related
> to
> > > > JSR303
> > > > > > > > > support.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about the
> > > given
> > > > > > > names,
> > > > > > > > > could you speak up?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
even when speaking?
Then the point is who should understand the name, the EG or users.
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
*Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
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2013/6/16 Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>
> we (= bv-eg) ~always used "bv". it's even used in the bv-spec. document.
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
>
>
> 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>
> > whatever the list is IMO, the point was already mentionned: how many
> times
> > did you use "bv" to say bean validation? You never say "Java Persistence
> > API" but always jpa, for bval that's the opposite IMO.
> >
> > I commonly see bval or beanvalidation but not others.
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Gerhard,
> > >
> > > They may use [bv-dev] as a prefix, but the mailing list name is
> > > beanvalidation-dev.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > hi john,
> > > >
> > > > please check e.g. the official eg/dev list [1].
> > > > the subject of mails starts with "[bv-dev]"
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > gerhard
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/beanvalidation-dev/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > gerhard/thomas
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem I have with "bv" is that no one refers to
> BeanValidation
> > as
> > > > bv
> > > > > (in fact, Bean Validation is the shortened form of JavaBeans
> > > Validation).
> > > > > Doing a quick google search on bv shows me some STDs. Since
> google
> > is
> > > > > typically stalking me and knows I ask lots of programming
> questions,
> > it
> > > > > would typically return the programming references first.
> > > > >
> > > > > Doing a google search for "bv bean validation" shows
> > > beanvalidation.org,
> > > > > however there are no references to bv on that site.
> > > > >
> > > > > romain
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I think using "bval" ties us closely to the Apache impl.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think I generally prefer longer names. For example, we chose
> > > > > partial-bean rather than pb. If it were bean-val instead of
> beanval,
> > > > would
> > > > > anyone mind that?
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > hi john,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...).
> > > > > > if we don't plan to support multiple versions with separated
> > > modules, i
> > > > > > tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for the
> > modules
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > corresponding specs).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache
> impl.
> > So
> > > > id
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > > bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things
> > > > > > > Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <john.d.ament@gmail.com
> >
> > a
> > > > > écrit
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean Validation
> > > module
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the
> name
> > > > > > "beanval"
> > > > > > > > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" that
> > could
> > > > > easily
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related to
> > > JSR303
> > > > > > > > support.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about the
> > given
> > > > > > names,
> > > > > > > > could you speak up?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>.
we (= bv-eg) ~always used "bv". it's even used in the bv-spec. document.
regards,
gerhard
2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> whatever the list is IMO, the point was already mentionned: how many times
> did you use "bv" to say bean validation? You never say "Java Persistence
> API" but always jpa, for bval that's the opposite IMO.
>
> I commonly see bval or beanvalidation but not others.
>
> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
>
>
>
> 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
>
> > Gerhard,
> >
> > They may use [bv-dev] as a prefix, but the mailing list name is
> > beanvalidation-dev.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > hi john,
> > >
> > > please check e.g. the official eg/dev list [1].
> > > the subject of mails starts with "[bv-dev]"
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > gerhard
> > >
> > > [1] http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/beanvalidation-dev/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > gerhard/thomas
> > > >
> > > > The problem I have with "bv" is that no one refers to BeanValidation
> as
> > > bv
> > > > (in fact, Bean Validation is the shortened form of JavaBeans
> > Validation).
> > > > Doing a quick google search on bv shows me some STDs. Since google
> is
> > > > typically stalking me and knows I ask lots of programming questions,
> it
> > > > would typically return the programming references first.
> > > >
> > > > Doing a google search for "bv bean validation" shows
> > beanvalidation.org,
> > > > however there are no references to bv on that site.
> > > >
> > > > romain
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I think using "bval" ties us closely to the Apache impl.
> > > >
> > > > I think I generally prefer longer names. For example, we chose
> > > > partial-bean rather than pb. If it were bean-val instead of beanval,
> > > would
> > > > anyone mind that?
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > hi john,
> > > > >
> > > > > in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...).
> > > > > if we don't plan to support multiple versions with separated
> > modules, i
> > > > > tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for the
> modules
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > corresponding specs).
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > gerhard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache impl.
> So
> > > id
> > > > > use
> > > > > > bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things
> > > > > > Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>
> a
> > > > écrit
> > > > > :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean Validation
> > module
> > > > is
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the name
> > > > > "beanval"
> > > > > > > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" that
> could
> > > > easily
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related to
> > JSR303
> > > > > > > support.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about the
> given
> > > > > names,
> > > > > > > could you speak up?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
whatever the list is IMO, the point was already mentionned: how many times
did you use "bv" to say bean validation? You never say "Java Persistence
API" but always jpa, for bval that's the opposite IMO.
I commonly see bval or beanvalidation but not others.
*Romain Manni-Bucau*
*Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
*Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
*LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
*Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> Gerhard,
>
> They may use [bv-dev] as a prefix, but the mailing list name is
> beanvalidation-dev.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hi john,
> >
> > please check e.g. the official eg/dev list [1].
> > the subject of mails starts with "[bv-dev]"
> >
> > regards,
> > gerhard
> >
> > [1] http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/beanvalidation-dev/
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > gerhard/thomas
> > >
> > > The problem I have with "bv" is that no one refers to BeanValidation as
> > bv
> > > (in fact, Bean Validation is the shortened form of JavaBeans
> Validation).
> > > Doing a quick google search on bv shows me some STDs. Since google is
> > > typically stalking me and knows I ask lots of programming questions, it
> > > would typically return the programming references first.
> > >
> > > Doing a google search for "bv bean validation" shows
> beanvalidation.org,
> > > however there are no references to bv on that site.
> > >
> > > romain
> > >
> > > Yes, I think using "bval" ties us closely to the Apache impl.
> > >
> > > I think I generally prefer longer names. For example, we chose
> > > partial-bean rather than pb. If it were bean-val instead of beanval,
> > would
> > > anyone mind that?
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > hi john,
> > > >
> > > > in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...).
> > > > if we don't plan to support multiple versions with separated
> modules, i
> > > > tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for the modules
> of
> > > the
> > > > corresponding specs).
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > gerhard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache impl. So
> > id
> > > > use
> > > > > bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things
> > > > > Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> a
> > > écrit
> > > > :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean Validation
> module
> > > is
> > > > > that
> > > > > > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the name
> > > > "beanval"
> > > > > > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" that could
> > > easily
> > > > > be
> > > > > > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related to
> JSR303
> > > > > > support.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about the given
> > > > names,
> > > > > > could you speak up?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
Gerhard,
They may use [bv-dev] as a prefix, but the mailing list name is
beanvalidation-dev.
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi john,
>
> please check e.g. the official eg/dev list [1].
> the subject of mails starts with "[bv-dev]"
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
> [1] http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/beanvalidation-dev/
>
>
>
> 2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
>
> > gerhard/thomas
> >
> > The problem I have with "bv" is that no one refers to BeanValidation as
> bv
> > (in fact, Bean Validation is the shortened form of JavaBeans Validation).
> > Doing a quick google search on bv shows me some STDs. Since google is
> > typically stalking me and knows I ask lots of programming questions, it
> > would typically return the programming references first.
> >
> > Doing a google search for "bv bean validation" shows beanvalidation.org,
> > however there are no references to bv on that site.
> >
> > romain
> >
> > Yes, I think using "bval" ties us closely to the Apache impl.
> >
> > I think I generally prefer longer names. For example, we chose
> > partial-bean rather than pb. If it were bean-val instead of beanval,
> would
> > anyone mind that?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > hi john,
> > >
> > > in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...).
> > > if we don't plan to support multiple versions with separated modules, i
> > > tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for the modules of
> > the
> > > corresponding specs).
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > gerhard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache impl. So
> id
> > > use
> > > > bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things
> > > > Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit
> > > :
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean Validation module
> > is
> > > > that
> > > > > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the name
> > > "beanval"
> > > > > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" that could
> > easily
> > > > be
> > > > > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related to JSR303
> > > > > support.
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about the given
> > > names,
> > > > > could you speak up?
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>.
hi john,
please check e.g. the official eg/dev list [1].
the subject of mails starts with "[bv-dev]"
regards,
gerhard
[1] http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/beanvalidation-dev/
2013/6/16 John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> gerhard/thomas
>
> The problem I have with "bv" is that no one refers to BeanValidation as bv
> (in fact, Bean Validation is the shortened form of JavaBeans Validation).
> Doing a quick google search on bv shows me some STDs. Since google is
> typically stalking me and knows I ask lots of programming questions, it
> would typically return the programming references first.
>
> Doing a google search for "bv bean validation" shows beanvalidation.org,
> however there are no references to bv on that site.
>
> romain
>
> Yes, I think using "bval" ties us closely to the Apache impl.
>
> I think I generally prefer longer names. For example, we chose
> partial-bean rather than pb. If it were bean-val instead of beanval, would
> anyone mind that?
>
> John
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hi john,
> >
> > in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...).
> > if we don't plan to support multiple versions with separated modules, i
> > tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for the modules of
> the
> > corresponding specs).
> >
> > regards,
> > gerhard
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache impl. So id
> > use
> > > bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things
> > > Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> a
> écrit
> > :
> > >
> > > > Hi all
> > > >
> > > > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean Validation module
> is
> > > that
> > > > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the name
> > "beanval"
> > > > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" that could
> easily
> > > be
> > > > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related to JSR303
> > > > support.
> > > >
> > > > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> > > >
> > > > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about the given
> > names,
> > > > could you speak up?
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
gerhard/thomas
The problem I have with "bv" is that no one refers to BeanValidation as bv
(in fact, Bean Validation is the shortened form of JavaBeans Validation).
Doing a quick google search on bv shows me some STDs. Since google is
typically stalking me and knows I ask lots of programming questions, it
would typically return the programming references first.
Doing a google search for "bv bean validation" shows beanvalidation.org,
however there are no references to bv on that site.
romain
Yes, I think using "bval" ties us closely to the Apache impl.
I think I generally prefer longer names. For example, we chose
partial-bean rather than pb. If it were bean-val instead of beanval, would
anyone mind that?
John
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi john,
>
> in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...).
> if we don't plan to support multiple versions with separated modules, i
> tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for the modules of the
> corresponding specs).
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
>
>
> 2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>
> > As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache impl. So id
> use
> > bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things
> > Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> a écrit
> :
> >
> > > Hi all
> > >
> > > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean Validation module is
> > that
> > > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the name
> "beanval"
> > > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" that could easily
> > be
> > > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related to JSR303
> > > support.
> > >
> > > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> > >
> > > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about the given
> names,
> > > could you speak up?
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>.
hi john,
in codi we used bv1 (like jpa1, jsf12, jsf20,...).
if we don't plan to support multiple versions with separated modules, i
tend to like just "bv" (since we use "jpa" and "jsf" for the modules of the
corresponding specs).
regards,
gerhard
2013/6/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache impl. So id use
> bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things
> Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean Validation module is
> that
> > the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the name "beanval"
> > since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" that could easily
> be
> > read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related to JSR303
> > support.
> >
> > One of the other names proposed is "bv."
> >
> > If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about the given names,
> > could you speak up?
> >
> > John
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] beanval module name
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
As a short name bval is fine but maybe too close of apache impl. So id use
bean-validation. Being explicit is good when naming things
Le 16 juin 2013 15:25, "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> Hi all
>
> One of the comments in the introduction of a Bean Validation module is that
> the name I gave it isn't descriptive/useful. I chose the name "beanval"
> since it was a shortened version of "Bean Validation" that could easily be
> read via maven. To me, it's descriptive of being related to JSR303
> support.
>
> One of the other names proposed is "bv."
>
> If anyone has any recommended names, or questions about the given names,
> could you speak up?
>
> John
>