Re: Progress on TLP proposal (Was: Re: [Jakarta-turbine Wiki] Update

["Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>]

Scott Eade <se...@backstagetech.com.au> writes:

Hi,


>Apache Wiki wrote:
>> The following page has been changed by ScottEade:
>> http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-turbine/SubProjectReport-April2007
>>
>> The comment on the change is:
>> If we were to report to the board today, it would be something like this - DRAFT
>>   
>Take a look at this and make any changes you feel are relevant.  This is 
>really only for us at present, but I wanted to make sure we present as 
>well before kicking off the vote on the TLP proposal.

Basically, everything is there. As this is based on the Velocity
proposal, there is not really much to add. I'm +1 for going to vote.

>There is one last thing I want to do before kicking off the vote and 
>that is to put together a Wiki page concerning thoughts on how we will 
>proceed towards a 2.4 release.  Would anyone care to list the tasks they 
>believe are outstanding.  Again, this is only for us (i.e. the TLP 
>proposal does not actually depend upon it), but I see it as being part 
>of us having our house in order before we go ahead with the TLP vote.

I wouldn't connect this, but if you feel it is necessary before going
TLP, go ahead. As I said, every OSS project should be user driven (and
committers are mostly users, too). If e.g. Martin starts to send in
his changes and enhancements, there will obviously progress. Until
then, development pace happens at the speed set by the committers. I
do not really believe in artificial road maps and mile stones.

	Best regards
		Henning


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Re: Progress on TLP proposal (Was: Re: [Jakarta-turbine Wiki] Update

[Scott Eade <se...@backstagetech.com.au>]

Henning P. Schmiedehausen wrote:
> Scott Eade <se...@backstagetech.com.au> writes:
>   
>> There is one last thing I want to do before kicking off the vote and 
>> that is to put together a Wiki page concerning thoughts on how we will 
>> proceed towards a 2.4 release.  Would anyone care to list the tasks they 
>> believe are outstanding.  Again, this is only for us (i.e. the TLP 
>> proposal does not actually depend upon it), but I see it as being part 
>> of us having our house in order before we go ahead with the TLP vote.
>>     
>
> I wouldn't connect this, but if you feel it is necessary before going
> TLP, go ahead. As I said, every OSS project should be user driven (and
> committers are mostly users, too). If e.g. Martin starts to send in
> his changes and enhancements, there will obviously progress. Until
> then, development pace happens at the speed set by the committers. I
> do not really believe in artificial road maps and mile stones.
>   
What I am actually after is some thinking on what needs to be done, not 
when it might be done.

I can see that there is little to be gained from connecting this to the 
TLP discussion - I will kick off the vote shortly.

Scott

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