status of Lenya 1.4

[Wolfgang Jeltsch <wo...@jeltsch.net>]

Hello,

are there any estimations about when version 1.4 of Lenya will be ready for 
production use?

Best wishes,
Wolfgang

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Re: status of Lenya 1.4

[Jörn Nettingsmeier <po...@uni-duisburg.de>]

Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 24. August 2006 12:57 schrieben Sie:
>> Hello,
>>
>> are there any estimations about when version 1.4 of Lenya will be ready for
>> production use?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Wolfgang
> 
> No one knowing if there are such estimations?  Or just no one knowing such an 
> estimation?

my absolutely irrelevant guess is "no sooner than november". note that 
this is an open interval :)

> And what about the current Lenya 1.4?  Is it usable at all? 

it is usable for sure, but there are a number of regressions due to the 
introduction of a new storage backend. it's nice to play with, but you 
should not bet your ass on it yet (i did, and i've come to regret it 
dearly).

> Are there 
> problems concerning security or is it just that you won't be able to get your 
> work done with the current Lenya 1.4?

there hasn't been a real security audit. security has been greatly 
improved due to the implementation of deny-by-default usecase policies a 
few months ago. but if you are planning a web application based on lenya 
authentication where the stakes are higher than "don't deface my website 
please", i'd recommend taking a close look first.
as to getting your work done: currently you are chasing a very rapidly 
moving target. if you're not prepared to do that, wait. that said, 1.4 
needs all the testing it can get, and if you invest some time in it, you 
will get very good support from the devs if you run into problems.

> Or that it's just a bit annoying to 
> use it because of ugly bugs?

oooooh yes :)
but the worst should be behind us now.


-- 
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Re: status of Lenya 1.4

[Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>]

Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote:
>> Am Donnerstag, 24. August 2006 12:57 schrieben Sie:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> are there any estimations about when version 1.4 of Lenya will be 
>>> ready for
>>> production use?
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Wolfgang
>>
>> No one knowing if there are such estimations?  Or just no one knowing 
>> such an estimation?
> 
> I post an "1.4 status update" every couple of months

Sorry, that should read "weeks".

-- Andreas

> to the dev
> list. You might want to read them to get an overview what has
> to be done. Any help is of course greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
>> And what about the current Lenya 1.4?  Is it usable at all?
> 
> It is usable, but there are some known and quite a lot of
> unknown issues.
> 
> The major problem is that you can't be sure if the storage model
> changes before the release. For instance, it might become necessary
> to introduce area- and language-independent meta data (I hope we
> can live without that, though).
> 
>> Are there problems concerning security or is it just that you won't be 
>> able to get your work done with the current Lenya 1.4?
> 
> AFAIK there are no known security issues ATM, but you might want to
> consult bugzilla to make sure.
> 
>  > Or that it's just a bit annoying to use it because of ugly bugs?
> 
> There have been some fundamental changes in the recent weeks, mainly
> to get over with the big stuff so we can get an RC out and start
> fixing the little bugs. I hope it will stabilize soon, but nobody
> can promise this.
> 
> -- Andreas


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Re: status of Lenya 1.4

[Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>]

Wolfgang Jeltsch wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 24. August 2006 12:57 schrieben Sie:
>> Hello,
>>
>> are there any estimations about when version 1.4 of Lenya will be ready for
>> production use?
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Wolfgang
> 
> No one knowing if there are such estimations?  Or just no one knowing such an 
> estimation?

I post an "1.4 status update" every couple of months to the dev
list. You might want to read them to get an overview what has
to be done. Any help is of course greatly appreciated.


> And what about the current Lenya 1.4?  Is it usable at all?

It is usable, but there are some known and quite a lot of
unknown issues.

The major problem is that you can't be sure if the storage model
changes before the release. For instance, it might become necessary
to introduce area- and language-independent meta data (I hope we
can live without that, though).

> Are there 
> problems concerning security or is it just that you won't be able to get your 
> work done with the current Lenya 1.4?

AFAIK there are no known security issues ATM, but you might want to
consult bugzilla to make sure.

 > Or that it's just a bit annoying to use it because of ugly bugs?

There have been some fundamental changes in the recent weeks, mainly
to get over with the big stuff so we can get an RC out and start
fixing the little bugs. I hope it will stabilize soon, but nobody
can promise this.

-- Andreas



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Re: status of Lenya 1.4

[Wolfgang Jeltsch <wo...@jeltsch.net>]

Am Donnerstag, 24. August 2006 12:57 schrieben Sie:
> Hello,
>
> are there any estimations about when version 1.4 of Lenya will be ready for
> production use?
>
> Best wishes,
> Wolfgang

No one knowing if there are such estimations?  Or just no one knowing such an 
estimation?

And what about the current Lenya 1.4?  Is it usable at all?  Are there 
problems concerning security or is it just that you won't be able to get your 
work done with the current Lenya 1.4?  Or that it's just a bit annoying to 
use it because of ugly bugs?

Best wishes,
Wolfgang

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