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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Simon <si...@optinet.com> on 2006/10/15 20:29:48 UTC
How to filter these spam messages
Hello,
I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I can't seem to
find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change something in
my configuration? any help would be appreciated, thanks!
Here are the latest spam I'm receiving:
http://optinet.com/spam.txt
My config is pretty much default and I have few extra rulesets from rulesemporium
Thanks,
Simon
Re: How to filter these spam messages
Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
(Long answer in email sent direct.)
Short answer - SARE. Check the "Other Rules" in the side bar. Fred's
rules are generally useful. And Jennifer's are timeless and useful.
{^_^}
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon" <si...@optinet.com>
>
> What I meant to say is that, eventhough they do get filtered, these spam messages
> do not get scored high enough to offset threshold so they get marked as spam. I
> will check on greylisting, but what I was really hoping for is a ruleset which helps
> score these high enough so they are marked as spam.
>
> -Simon
>
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:00:12 -0700, jdow wrote:
>
>>From: "Simon" <si...@optinet.com>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I can't seem to
>>> find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change something in
>>> my configuration? any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>>>
>>> Here are the latest spam I'm receiving:
>>>
>>> http://optinet.com/spam.txt
>>>
>>> My config is pretty much default and I have few extra rulesets from rulesemporium
>>
>>1) Technically every message sent through SpamAssassin is filtered. So
>>I've no idea what you mean above.
>>
>>2) Taking a stab in the dark you are expecting SpamAssassin to fail to
>>pass along spam messages for delivery. This is not something that
>>SpamAssassin does. All SA does is issue a score, one of several
>>different ways. It is up to your MDA to act on that score if you do
>>not want spams (and mismarked hams) delivered. Personally I use a
>>markup that places this at the front of the spam message subject
>>lines and encapsulates the spam inside a protective outer message.
>>*****SPAM***** 057.6 **
>>
>>(That one was a drug spam that triggered just a whole LOT of regular,
>>SARE, DNS, and JD special rules that are up to 100% perfect anti-spam
>>rules.)
>>
>>Then I use OutlookExpress's filtering capability on the first part of
>>that markup to toss the messages into a "SPAM" folder. I check the
>>spam folder maybe twice a day to see if there is any mismarked ham.
>>Those will be low scoring so I sort on the subjects and look at the
>>ones with the low scores only. Sometimes I amuse myself with the
>>rather high scores some spams can achive. Leo (see SpamHaus) managed
>>to break 100 on all low points rules once. He has a sense of humor
>>at least. He's still a dispensible human being.
>>
>>I hope this helps you just a little. (And maybe even shows how to make
>>anti-spam at least "amusing" as well as rewarding.)
>>
>>{^_^}
>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: How to filter these spam messages
Posted by Simon <si...@optinet.com>.
What I meant to say is that, eventhough they do get filtered, these spam messages
do not get scored high enough to offset threshold so they get marked as spam. I
will check on greylisting, but what I was really hoping for is a ruleset which helps
score these high enough so they are marked as spam.
-Simon
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:00:12 -0700, jdow wrote:
>From: "Simon" <si...@optinet.com>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I can't seem to
>> find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change something in
>> my configuration? any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>>
>> Here are the latest spam I'm receiving:
>>
>> http://optinet.com/spam.txt
>>
>> My config is pretty much default and I have few extra rulesets from rulesemporium
>
>1) Technically every message sent through SpamAssassin is filtered. So
>I've no idea what you mean above.
>
>2) Taking a stab in the dark you are expecting SpamAssassin to fail to
>pass along spam messages for delivery. This is not something that
>SpamAssassin does. All SA does is issue a score, one of several
>different ways. It is up to your MDA to act on that score if you do
>not want spams (and mismarked hams) delivered. Personally I use a
>markup that places this at the front of the spam message subject
>lines and encapsulates the spam inside a protective outer message.
>*****SPAM***** 057.6 **
>
>(That one was a drug spam that triggered just a whole LOT of regular,
>SARE, DNS, and JD special rules that are up to 100% perfect anti-spam
>rules.)
>
>Then I use OutlookExpress's filtering capability on the first part of
>that markup to toss the messages into a "SPAM" folder. I check the
>spam folder maybe twice a day to see if there is any mismarked ham.
>Those will be low scoring so I sort on the subjects and look at the
>ones with the low scores only. Sometimes I amuse myself with the
>rather high scores some spams can achive. Leo (see SpamHaus) managed
>to break 100 on all low points rules once. He has a sense of humor
>at least. He's still a dispensible human being.
>
>I hope this helps you just a little. (And maybe even shows how to make
>anti-spam at least "amusing" as well as rewarding.)
>
>{^_^}
>
>
Re: How to filter these spam messages
Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "Simon" <si...@optinet.com>
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I can't seem to
> find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change something in
> my configuration? any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Here are the latest spam I'm receiving:
>
> http://optinet.com/spam.txt
>
> My config is pretty much default and I have few extra rulesets from rulesemporium
1) Technically every message sent through SpamAssassin is filtered. So
I've no idea what you mean above.
2) Taking a stab in the dark you are expecting SpamAssassin to fail to
pass along spam messages for delivery. This is not something that
SpamAssassin does. All SA does is issue a score, one of several
different ways. It is up to your MDA to act on that score if you do
not want spams (and mismarked hams) delivered. Personally I use a
markup that places this at the front of the spam message subject
lines and encapsulates the spam inside a protective outer message.
*****SPAM***** 057.6 **
(That one was a drug spam that triggered just a whole LOT of regular,
SARE, DNS, and JD special rules that are up to 100% perfect anti-spam
rules.)
Then I use OutlookExpress's filtering capability on the first part of
that markup to toss the messages into a "SPAM" folder. I check the
spam folder maybe twice a day to see if there is any mismarked ham.
Those will be low scoring so I sort on the subjects and look at the
ones with the low scores only. Sometimes I amuse myself with the
rather high scores some spams can achive. Leo (see SpamHaus) managed
to break 100 on all low points rules once. He has a sense of humor
at least. He's still a dispensible human being.
I hope this helps you just a little. (And maybe even shows how to make
anti-spam at least "amusing" as well as rewarding.)
{^_^}
Re: How to filter these spam messages
Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
Google for it. LOTS OF information lives out there to find.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Huddleston" <bi...@nxs.net>
To: <us...@spamassassin.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 12:58
Subject: Re: How to filter these spam messages
> Someone want to explain Greylisting?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Micke Andersson" <mi...@swemic.net>
> To: "Simon" <si...@optinet.com>
> Cc: <us...@spamassassin.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:50 PM
> Subject: Re: How to filter these spam messages
>
>
>> Try Greylisting if you are admin on your own e-mail server!
>> That will filter most of those e-mails.
>>
>> /Micke
>>
>> Simon wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I
>>> can't seem to
>>> find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change
>>> something in
>>> my configuration? any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>>> Here are the latest spam I'm receiving:
>>>
>>> http://optinet.com/spam.txt
>>>
>>> My config is pretty much default and I have few extra rulesets from
>>> rulesemporium
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Simon
>>>
>>>
>>
RE: How to filter these spam messages
Posted by R Lists06 <li...@abbacomm.net>.
>
> Someone want to explain Greylisting?
Here is an example that references a coupla websites
http://qmail.jms1.net/scripts/jgreylist.shtml
- rh
--
Robert - Abba Communications
Computer & Internet Services
(509) 624-7159 - www.abbacomm.net
Re: How to filter these spam messages
Posted by Billy Huddleston <bi...@nxs.net>.
Someone want to explain Greylisting?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Micke Andersson" <mi...@swemic.net>
To: "Simon" <si...@optinet.com>
Cc: <us...@spamassassin.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: How to filter these spam messages
> Try Greylisting if you are admin on your own e-mail server!
> That will filter most of those e-mails.
>
> /Micke
>
> Simon wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I
>> can't seem to
>> find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change
>> something in
>> my configuration? any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>> Here are the latest spam I'm receiving:
>>
>> http://optinet.com/spam.txt
>>
>> My config is pretty much default and I have few extra rulesets from
>> rulesemporium
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Simon
>>
>>
>
Re: How to filter these spam messages
Posted by Micke Andersson <mi...@swemic.net>.
Try Greylisting if you are admin on your own e-mail server!
That will filter most of those e-mails.
/Micke
Simon wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I can't seem to
> find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change something in
> my configuration? any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Here are the latest spam I'm receiving:
>
> http://optinet.com/spam.txt
>
> My config is pretty much default and I have few extra rulesets from rulesemporium
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
>
Re: How to filter these spam messages
Posted by Billy Huddleston <bi...@nxs.net>.
Yea, I was getting ready to post about the same kind of spam.. Very
obnoxious. Anyone ideas?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon" <si...@optinet.com>
To: <us...@spamassassin.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: How to filter these spam messages
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I can't
> seem to
> find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change something
> in
> my configuration? any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Here are the latest spam I'm receiving:
>
> http://optinet.com/spam.txt
>
> My config is pretty much default and I have few extra rulesets from
> rulesemporium
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
>
Re: How to filter these spam messages
Posted by Mark Samples <lp...@dmsgranbury.com>.
I have adopted the following policy, I run commercial free email. If it
is unsolicited
it gets blacklisted. If they want to run commercials through my email
site, I will let them,
provided they use a mailing list and the user can opt out. Random,
unsolicited emails
go in the blacklist. This method (too me) works the best. While
spamassassin works very well
also, it becomes much more inflated in terms of code, the more rules
there are. I use spamassassin also,
but for just standard unsolicited email, it goes to the bit bucket. I
will sell them commercials
on my site, I will be glad to set up a site wide mailing list and let my
customers subscribe to the
ones they want (for a monthly fee). I am not going to subsidize email
commercials on bandwidth
my customers and I pay for, nor do I want to let someone, such as a
spammer, use my resources
for free, if they want to use them, they will pay for them, through the
sales of subscribe/unsubscribe
mailing lists. So, if they wanna play, their gonna hafta pay.
I believe this is the only way to force spammers to comply with some
kind of email policy.
Simon wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm trying to figure out what to do to filter these spam messages. I can't seem to
>find a ruleset which would filter them. Perhaps I need to change something in
>my configuration? any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
>Here are the latest spam I'm receiving:
>
>http://optinet.com/spam.txt
>
>My config is pretty much default and I have few extra rulesets from rulesemporium
>
>Thanks,
>Simon
>
>
>
>
>
>