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What are the limitations of J Meter
Hi,
Does J Meter has any limitations ? such as
1.On one comupter how many concurrent users can run?
2.Is J Meter supports JavaScript embedded web applications as well as
AJAX,Web2.0 technologies based applications?
3.If I need to run on mulitple computers simlutaenioulsy what is the
process,What I mean to say is how can I share the script and run?
Thanks,
Raj
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by Felix Frank <ff...@mpexnet.de>.
> From that information, I cannot say more than that Jmeter would be a
> good tool for the job.
Sorry - "no more".
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by Felix Frank <ff...@mpexnet.de>.
On 01/08/2011 12:49 AM, chinni20 wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Thank You so much!
>
> I need your suggestion!
>
> I have 45 days left for creating the scripts and running the scripts , Could
> you please suggest what is best load test tool for recording and running
> the scripts?
>
> Application uses technologies such as : AJAX,JavaScript,CSS,JSON,Webservices
From that information, I cannot say more than that Jmeter would be a
good tool for the job.
Cheers,
Felix
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi Guys,
Thank You so much!
I need your suggestion!
I have 45 days left for creating the scripts and running the scripts , Could
you please suggest what is best load test tool for recording and running
the scripts?
Application uses technologies such as : AJAX,JavaScript,CSS,JSON,Webservices
Thanks,
chinni20
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by Michel Duijvestijn <du...@gmail.com>.
Another option is the use of Badboy. See http://www.badboy.com.au/
After you have made your recording with Badboy you can export it to a
JMeter script.
If you are working with JMeter 2.4 you should use Badboy Version
2.1.1_beta_1 or above: the older versions are'nt compatible with the
2.4 version of JMeter.
2011/1/6 Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com>
>
> yes
> http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/jmeter_proxy_step_by_step.pdf(slightly
> dated)
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:30 AM, chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Deepak and Felix,
> >
> > Both of you Thank You guys!
> >
> > I have one more question.
> > Is J Meter is recordable?What I mean to say is Can I record the Script by
> > doing the transaction such as Login,Logout,Pay bill and so on....
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chinni20
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com>.
yes
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/jmeter_proxy_step_by_step.pdf(slightly
dated)
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 11:30 AM, chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Deepak and Felix,
>
> Both of you Thank You guys!
>
> I have one more question.
> Is J Meter is recordable?What I mean to say is Can I record the Script by
> doing the transaction such as Login,Logout,Pay bill and so on....
>
> Thanks,
> Chinni20
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi Deepak and Felix,
Both of you Thank You guys!
I have one more question.
Is J Meter is recordable?What I mean to say is Can I record the Script by
doing the transaction such as Login,Logout,Pay bill and so on....
Thanks,
Chinni20
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com>.
well you usually do get that off the 1000 , 100 will do search , another 100
will perform ordering flow , the rest browse the site or something similar
to that.
>It's MUCH easier to try and find the maximum tolerable load measured in
(e.g.) page interactions per second.
Yes but you cant really do anything with that number. Shared Code interacts
in complex ways - Its your second step thats the important one and given
time constraints that all projects suffer it might not be practical to do
what you propose (Im not disagreeing with your approach by the way).
>It's MUCH easier to try and find the maximum tolerable load measured in
(e.g.) page interactions per second.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Felix Frank <ff...@mpexnet.de> wrote:
> On 01/05/2011 12:55 AM, chinni20 wrote:
> >
> > Hi Deepak,
> >
> > I appreciate for your patience and thanks for your concerns!
> >
> > My ultimate application goal is to Transaction Response time should not
> > exceed 2 secs when 1000 users trying access the site simultaneously by
> login
> > into the site.
> > Basically its playbill.
> >
> > Please advise me!
>
> From my (limited) experience, it's excruciatingly difficult to model the
> load induced by "1000 users accessing the site". What does each user do?
> How fast does each user navigate? How many possible interactions are
> there? etcpp.
>
> It's MUCH easier to try and find the maximum tolerable load measured in
> (e.g.) page interactions per second. Just raise the induced load until
> your transaction time exceeds your desirable limit. Then examine the
> page interactions per second your servers had been logging at that point.
>
> In a second step, try and make an estimate of how many page interactions
> per second a given number of concurrent users inflict. Then you can
> estimate the number of tolerable concurrent users.
>
> HTH,
> Felix
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by Felix Frank <ff...@mpexnet.de>.
On 01/05/2011 12:55 AM, chinni20 wrote:
>
> Hi Deepak,
>
> I appreciate for your patience and thanks for your concerns!
>
> My ultimate application goal is to Transaction Response time should not
> exceed 2 secs when 1000 users trying access the site simultaneously by login
> into the site.
> Basically its playbill.
>
> Please advise me!
>From my (limited) experience, it's excruciatingly difficult to model the
load induced by "1000 users accessing the site". What does each user do?
How fast does each user navigate? How many possible interactions are
there? etcpp.
It's MUCH easier to try and find the maximum tolerable load measured in
(e.g.) page interactions per second. Just raise the induced load until
your transaction time exceeds your desirable limit. Then examine the
page interactions per second your servers had been logging at that point.
In a second step, try and make an estimate of how many page interactions
per second a given number of concurrent users inflict. Then you can
estimate the number of tolerable concurrent users.
HTH,
Felix
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com>.
you should be able to do what you want with JMeter (but I'd use more than
one machine to simulate 1000 users - atleast 4)
You might need to do some calculations based on your app though. 1000 users
logged in but how many requests in parallel to the server(factoring in your
AJAX calls as well) and how many requests totally in a fixed time period
(only you know your application).
When you say transaction response time , what you can get is the server time
+ network time (for the network on which you are running the test) . Again
this might need you to guesstimate your actual time.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:55 PM, chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Deepak,
>
> I appreciate for your patience and thanks for your concerns!
>
> My ultimate application goal is to Transaction Response time should not
> exceed 2 secs when 1000 users trying access the site simultaneously by
> login
> into the site.
> Basically its playbill.
>
> Please advise me!
>
> Thanks,
> Chinni20
>
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi Deepak,
I appreciate for your patience and thanks for your concerns!
My ultimate application goal is to Transaction Response time should not
exceed 2 secs when 1000 users trying access the site simultaneously by login
into the site.
Basically its playbill.
Please advise me!
Thanks,
Chinni20
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com>.
Jmeter isnt a browser. Hence the concept of refreshing parts of a page is
irrelevant when you are conducting a test in JMeter.
Can Jmeter send the same http request that the AJAX call would have made -
yes
But do you want to test if your javascript fires the AJAX call - No Jmeter
doesnt do this
Do you want o check if the part of your page that the call refreshes renders
correctly in the browser - No Jmeter doesnt do this
Do you want to have an accurate estimate of the time - Maybe you can get
this in JMeter.
There is no direct answer to your question read up the mail archives or
google jmeter and ajax. It depends on what your goal is.
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM, chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Deepak,
>
> My application uses the AJAX to refresh the page loading.I think you know
> the purpose of the AJAX?
> AJAX is the art of exchanging data with a server, and update parts of a web
> page - without reloading the whole page.
>
> So does J Meter supports my application?
>
> Please advise me!
>
> Thanks,
> Chinni20
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi Deepak,
My application uses the AJAX to refresh the page loading.I think you know
the purpose of the AJAX?
AJAX is the art of exchanging data with a server, and update parts of a web
page - without reloading the whole page.
So does J Meter supports my application?
Please advise me!
Thanks,
Chinni20
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com>.
hi
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-jmeter-user/201006.mbox/%3CAANLkTinDatmV6ALLEElKxRr3SB6zEvwSVayvgz88OKCo@mail.gmail.com%3E
regards
deepak
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:00 PM, chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Deepak,
>
> Thanks for your response!
>
> I got the answers for Questions 1 & 3 .
> When I search in mail archive,i got half answer for my second question.
> I believe J Meter supports Java Script.Correct me If I am wrong.
> But I didn't see anywhere that does J Meter supports AJAX & Web2.0
> technologies.
>
> Could you please advise me on question 2.
>
> Thanks,
> Chinni20
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi Deepak,
Thanks for your response!
I got the answers for Questions 1 & 3 .
When I search in mail archive,i got half answer for my second question.
I believe J Meter supports Java Script.Correct me If I am wrong.
But I didn't see anywhere that does J Meter supports AJAX & Web2.0
technologies.
Could you please advise me on question 2.
Thanks,
Chinni20
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Re: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by Deepak Shetty <sh...@gmail.com>.
search the mail archives , there are many discussions of the same topic
(ajax, concurrent users). The answer to both your questions is it depends.
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-jmeter/HowManyThreads
For the third question read the manual or wiki e.g.
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/jmeter_distributed_testing_step_by_step.pdf
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:11 PM, chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Samar,
>
> I went thru the JMeter Manual in the introduction it says
>
> Apache JMeter is a 100% pure Java desktop application designed to load test
> client/server software (such as a web application ). It may be used to test
> performance both on static and dynamic resources such as static files, Java
> Servlets, CGI scripts, Java objects, databases , FTP servers , and more.
> JMeter can be used to simulate a heavy load on a server, network or object
> to test its strength or to analyze overall performance under different load
> types.
>
> It doesnot says that it supports JavScript and web2.0 technologies
>
> When I searched in the google I found the below link, It says JMeter has
> limitations
> Please see the below link and look into page no 37.
>
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/7499267/Load-Testing-With-JMeter
>
> Please advise me!
>
> Thanks,
> Chinni20
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RE: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by chinni20 <ra...@gmail.com>.
Hi Samar,
I went thru the JMeter Manual in the introduction it says
Apache JMeter is a 100% pure Java desktop application designed to load test
client/server software (such as a web application ). It may be used to test
performance both on static and dynamic resources such as static files, Java
Servlets, CGI scripts, Java objects, databases , FTP servers , and more.
JMeter can be used to simulate a heavy load on a server, network or object
to test its strength or to analyze overall performance under different load
types.
It doesnot says that it supports JavScript and web2.0 technologies
When I searched in the google I found the below link, It says JMeter has
limitations
Please see the below link and look into page no 37.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7499267/Load-Testing-With-JMeter
Please advise me!
Thanks,
Chinni20
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RE: What are the limitations of J Meter
Posted by "Mohanty, Samarjeet " <sa...@citi.com>.
Hi "Chinni20",
Just wondering if you went thru the JMeter Manual ( http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/index.html ).
It has the answers for your Q.2 (mite require custom coding) and Q.3 (distributed testing).
As for Q.1 >> It depends on factors like,
a. Hardware and Software Configuration of Load Simulator
b. Component under test (HTTP or JMS or Java or something else) with JMeter
As far as I know, there's no hard and fast rule which can specify the user load on a particular load test machine, unless somebody else says otherwise.
Regards,
Samar
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Subject: What are the limitations of J Meter
Hi,
Does J Meter has any limitations ? such as
1.On one comupter how many concurrent users can run?
2.Is J Meter supports JavaScript embedded web applications as well as
AJAX,Web2.0 technologies based applications?
3.If I need to run on mulitple computers simlutaenioulsy what is the
process,What I mean to say is how can I share the script and run?
Thanks,
Raj
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