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[jira] [Created] (LEGAL-129) conflicting license templates is
confusing
conflicting license templates is confusing
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Key: LEGAL-129
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-129
Project: Legal Discuss
Issue Type: Question
Reporter: Carol Frampton
The license template here, http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html, differs from the template here, http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html#apply.
The later includes this line at the top while the former does not.
Copyright [yyyy] [name of copyright owner]
http://incubator.apache.org/flex/license.html also includes the copyright in the Appendix.
I assume http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html is correct and the other two pages are wrong and should be corrected.
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[jira] [Updated] (LEGAL-129) conflicting license templates are
confusing
Posted by "Carol Frampton (Updated) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-129?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]
Carol Frampton updated LEGAL-129:
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Summary: conflicting license templates are confusing (was: conflicting license templates is confusing)
> conflicting license templates are confusing
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>
> Key: LEGAL-129
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-129
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Carol Frampton
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> The license template here, http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html, differs from the template here, http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html#apply.
> The later includes this line at the top while the former does not.
> Copyright [yyyy] [name of copyright owner]
> http://incubator.apache.org/flex/license.html also includes the copyright in the Appendix.
> I assume http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html is correct and the other two pages are wrong and should be corrected.
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[jira] [Issue Comment Edited] (LEGAL-129) conflicting license
templates are confusing
Posted by "Carol Frampton (Issue Comment Edited) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Carol Frampton edited comment on LEGAL-129 at 3/15/12 5:42 PM:
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I see that http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 seems to be the basis for the top-level LICENSE file in each project.
Considering the extensive discussion that went on in this thread about the ESME project, http://markmail.org/message/r2ewtoq4yyvwbfmr, about not leaving copyrights in source files and moving the copyrights to the NOTICE file
I am very surprised that the copyright template that every project publishes includes a line for a non-Apache copyright in the template.
Am I totally misunderstanding the context of where this Apache license template should be used?
was (Author: cframpton):
I see that http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 seems to be the basis for the top-level LICENSE file in each project.
Considering the extensive discussion that went on in this thread about the ESME project, http://markmail.org/message/r2ewtoq4yyvwbfmr, about not leaving copyrights in source files and moving the copyrights to the NOTICE file
I am very surprised that the copyright template that every project publishes includes this a line for a non-Apache copyright in the template.
Am I totally misunderstanding this the context of where this Apache license template should be used?
> conflicting license templates are confusing
> -------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-129
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-129
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Carol Frampton
>
> The license template here, http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html, differs from the template here, http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html#apply.
> The later includes this line at the top while the former does not.
> Copyright [yyyy] [name of copyright owner]
> http://incubator.apache.org/flex/license.html also includes the copyright in the Appendix.
> I assume http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html is correct and the other two pages are wrong and should be corrected.
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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-129) conflicting license templates are
confusing
Posted by "Carol Frampton (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Carol Frampton commented on LEGAL-129:
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I see that http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 seems to be the basis for the top-level LICENSE file in each project.
Considering the extensive discussion that went on in this thread about the ESME project, http://markmail.org/message/r2ewtoq4yyvwbfmr, about not leaving copyrights in source files and moving the copyrights to the NOTICE file
I am very surprised that the copyright template that every project publishes includes this a line for a non-Apache copyright in the template.
Am I totally misunderstanding this the context of where this Apache license template should be used?
> conflicting license templates are confusing
> -------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-129
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-129
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Carol Frampton
>
> The license template here, http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html, differs from the template here, http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html#apply.
> The later includes this line at the top while the former does not.
> Copyright [yyyy] [name of copyright owner]
> http://incubator.apache.org/flex/license.html also includes the copyright in the Appendix.
> I assume http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html is correct and the other two pages are wrong and should be corrected.
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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-129) conflicting license templates are
confusing
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding (Commented) (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Roy T. Fielding commented on LEGAL-129:
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The template in the license file is just instructions on how an ordinary user can apply the license to their own work. It does not require a copyright notice -- it is just the same kind of template you see in most generic open source licenses.
The instructions on what source headers to use at the ASF is *our* policy. Copyright notices of individual copyright owners are not listed because it is impossible for us to make them accurately reflect all contributors (and not just the annoying ones who insist on credit be given to them in every single file they touch) and yet we can't claim copyright ASF on individual files because we have to add original work within the scope of that claim before it can be legally applied. Therefore, we move all notices to the NOTICE file with permission of the copyright owners, so that their legal standing is assured without leading to battles over who gets the most credit in each and every file.
Generally speaking, the ASF requires that such notices be moved when entering incubation, since lawyers only agree to it when we are doing *them* a favor by taking responsibility for the project. We require it for social reasons: volunteers won't work on software files that have a big sign on top saying their work is owned by BigCo, Inc.
In other words, LICENSE-2.0 contains documentation for outside orgs using the license. src-headers.html contains requirements for projects hosted by the ASF.
> conflicting license templates are confusing
> -------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-129
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-129
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Carol Frampton
>
> The license template here, http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html, differs from the template here, http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html#apply.
> The later includes this line at the top while the former does not.
> Copyright [yyyy] [name of copyright owner]
> http://incubator.apache.org/flex/license.html also includes the copyright in the Appendix.
> I assume http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html is correct and the other two pages are wrong and should be corrected.
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