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Posted to user@ant.apache.org by Brian Ivey <cb...@comcast.net> on 2002/06/23 06:07:51 UTC
Antidote
Is the gui front-end for Ant, called Antidote, a dead project? I've unable
to find any current documentation (most of it's about a year old).
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Re: Antidote
Posted by Ultra Funkular <fu...@nettaxi.com>.
Erik,
Thank you for your email.
As I mentioned, comments were "currently ignored", meaning it would be a
future feature.
This feature was not of important as importing the actual executable ant
xml elements obviously.
For the record, xml comments are now imported - SAX's LexicalHandler was
utilised for this - and the gui updated to provide editing of the comment
text. A new release will be uploaded soon.
The XML layout has been on my mind since day one. I wondered whether
people would prefer empty lines between <target>'s, and whateher
attributes shuld be all on a single line, or listed one per line (current
implementation - better for viewing /printing the file I might add).
To this effect, I will be implementing a dialog for modifying the xml
layout as to a user's preference.
I heard about antidote only after I had finished much of the v1.0
developement on antacid back in May.
Neither I or any of my peers had ever seen or used antidote.
Since noone was aware of any GUI tool to simplify the use of ant, and
given my (then) current boredom, a peer suggested that I develop one... :)
I don't know what features antidote has. I've never used it.
AntAcid has features that I am seeking from my own experience of using ant
buildfiles in large projects.
In my experience, for any software to be easily used, tested and
evaluated, it should have a release package that is easily downloaded via
http. (I only setup CVS at home for sourceforge utilisation last week).
I am always open to critism, and RFE's. So fire them off :)
Regards,
T Master
On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 07:56:48 Erik Hatcher wrote:
> This is the depressing part from your feature list:
>
> N.B: Comments are currently ignored, and will not be imported.
>
> One of the things I *despise* about GUI's that work on build.xml files is
> that they mangle the aesthetics. Eventually they'll improve just like
> IDE's
> that do automatic Java formatting, but having a tool nuke my very
> valuable
> comments means its a tool I would not use or recommend.
>
> I know its a hard problem to solve though.
>
> Also, I don't want a tool automatically laying out the XML - I like my
> attributes lined up and in a specific order. How does is this handled?
>
> But, not to discourage you - I'm all for these types of tools. Keep up
> the
> good work. But, why did you not work on Antidote instead? What does
> your
> tool do that Antidote does not?
>
> Erik
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ultra Funkular" <fu...@nettaxi.com>
> To: "Ant Users List" <an...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 5:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Antidote
>
>
> > I've actually made a front-end myself. Something i quickly put
> together.
> > It's http://antacid.sourceforge.net
> >
> > One more kink to work out on it, but it is usable.
> > Check it out.
> >
> >
> > T Master.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 02:45:38 Conor MacNeill wrote:
> > > Brian Ivey wrote:
> > >> Is the gui front-end for Ant, called Antidote, a dead project? I've
> > >> unable
> > >> to find any current documentation (most of it's about a year old).
> > >
> > > I'd say it's on the operating table at the moment but it appears
> someone
> > > is about to apply 20kV to try and revive it. Let's see how that goes.
> If
> > > you want to join in, even if it's just to provide requirements from a
> > > user view, it would be best to join that discussion on ant-dev.
> > >
> > > Conor
> > >
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Re: Antidote
Posted by Erik Hatcher <ja...@ehatchersolutions.com>.
This is the depressing part from your feature list:
N.B: Comments are currently ignored, and will not be imported.
One of the things I *despise* about GUI's that work on build.xml files is
that they mangle the aesthetics. Eventually they'll improve just like IDE's
that do automatic Java formatting, but having a tool nuke my very valuable
comments means its a tool I would not use or recommend.
I know its a hard problem to solve though.
Also, I don't want a tool automatically laying out the XML - I like my
attributes lined up and in a specific order. How does is this handled?
But, not to discourage you - I'm all for these types of tools. Keep up the
good work. But, why did you not work on Antidote instead? What does your
tool do that Antidote does not?
Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ultra Funkular" <fu...@nettaxi.com>
To: "Ant Users List" <an...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 5:07 AM
Subject: Re: Antidote
> I've actually made a front-end myself. Something i quickly put together.
> It's http://antacid.sourceforge.net
>
> One more kink to work out on it, but it is usable.
> Check it out.
>
>
> T Master.
>
>
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 02:45:38 Conor MacNeill wrote:
> > Brian Ivey wrote:
> >> Is the gui front-end for Ant, called Antidote, a dead project? I've
> >> unable
> >> to find any current documentation (most of it's about a year old).
> >
> > I'd say it's on the operating table at the moment but it appears someone
> > is about to apply 20kV to try and revive it. Let's see how that goes. If
> > you want to join in, even if it's just to provide requirements from a
> > user view, it would be best to join that discussion on ant-dev.
> >
> > Conor
> >
> >
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Re: Antidote
Posted by Ultra Funkular <fu...@nettaxi.com>.
I've actually made a front-end myself. Something i quickly put together.
It's http://antacid.sourceforge.net
One more kink to work out on it, but it is usable.
Check it out.
T Master.
On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 02:45:38 Conor MacNeill wrote:
> Brian Ivey wrote:
>> Is the gui front-end for Ant, called Antidote, a dead project? I've
>> unable
>> to find any current documentation (most of it's about a year old).
>
> I'd say it's on the operating table at the moment but it appears someone
> is about to apply 20kV to try and revive it. Let's see how that goes. If
> you want to join in, even if it's just to provide requirements from a
> user view, it would be best to join that discussion on ant-dev.
>
> Conor
>
>
>
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Re: Antidote
Posted by Conor MacNeill <co...@cortexebusiness.com.au>.
Brian Ivey wrote:
> Is the gui front-end for Ant, called Antidote, a dead project? I've unable
> to find any current documentation (most of it's about a year old).
I'd say it's on the operating table at the moment but it appears someone is
about to apply 20kV to try and revive it. Let's see how that goes. If you
want to join in, even if it's just to provide requirements from a user view,
it would be best to join that discussion on ant-dev.
Conor
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