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Posted to dev@geronimo.apache.org by John Woolsey <jw...@activation.net> on 2004/09/09 14:21:54 UTC

Re: clustering module

Isn't the standard way to implement clustering to implement a clustered 
JMS and then make everything else rely on that?

Also for a clustering implementation. Let's say I have information on 
Server A and I want to ensure it is clustered so I send it to server B. 
Is a standard implementation to fire it over a socket and wait for 
receipt confirmation and then move on or are people generally more 
sophisticated then that?

                                                                         
                           - bfn - JAW

Dain Sundstrom wrote:

> That module has basically been abandoned.  I expect us to use  
> ActiveCluser for the clustering.
>
> -dain
>
> -- 
> Dain Sundstrom
> Chief Architect
> Gluecode Software
> 310.536.8355, ext. 26
>
> On Sep 8, 2004, at 9:06 PM, Bruce Snyder wrote:
>
>> I see that there is a clustering module in CVS created by Alan. Has  
>> anyone given any thought on how the clustering can be achieved? Are  
>> there any projects out there with a BSD derived license that can  
>> assist us with clustering in the same or similar manner that JGroups  
>> is used by JBoss?
>>
>> Bruce
>> --  perl -e 'print  
>> unpack("u30","<0G)U8V4\\@4VYY9&5R\\"F9E<G)E=\\$\\!F<FEI+F-O; 0\\`\\`");'
>>
>> The Castor Project
>> http://www.castor.org/
>>
>> Apache Geronimo
>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html
>
>
>
>


Re: clustering module

Posted by ja...@mac.com.
On 9 Sep 2004, at 13:21, John Woolsey wrote:
> Isn't the standard way to implement clustering to implement a 
> clustered JMS and then make everything else rely on that?

Kind of yes.

FWIW we've an Apache 2.0  licensed clustered JMS here...

http://activemq.codehaus.org/

which supports auto-discovering clusters of clients & message brokers 
and a variety of clustering options...

http://activemq.codehaus.org/Clustering?refresh=1


> Also for a clustering implementation. Let's say I have information on 
> Server A and I want to ensure it is clustered so I send it to server 
> B. Is a standard implementation to fire it over a socket and wait for 
> receipt confirmation and then move on or are people generally more 
> sophisticated then that?

Its kind of a long story, but the short answer is, we're more 
sophisticated than that. Here's how distributed queues / topics work in 
ActiveMQ...

http://activemq.codehaus.org/How+do+distributed+queues+work?refresh=1
http://activemq.codehaus.org/Networks+of+Brokers?refresh=1


> Dain Sundstrom wrote:
>
>> That module has basically been abandoned.  I expect us to use  
>> ActiveCluser for the clustering.

Agreed.

We're already starting to use ActiveCluster as a way to discover & 
connect ActiveMQ message brokers to form a cluster of clients and 
brokers with HA. Also WADI - the clustered session state project - uses 
ActiveCluster as its discovery, communication and cluster protocol 
abstraction...

http://wadi.codehaus.org/

James
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