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Posted to dev@spot.apache.org by Jeremy Nelson <je...@digitalminion.com> on 2020/01/16 01:46:39 UTC

Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Hello, everyone:

There is a resource available to us, called "clutch", which is an automated
tool that Apache uses to determine podling's conformance with Apache
incubation expectations

http://incubator.apache.org/clutch/spot.html

This tool points out a number of ways that Spot falls short of
expectations, and they look like they should be pretty straightforward to
address.

If we divide up these tasks, we can show Apache that we are serious about
conforming to their expectations of our work and progress, and that we want
to continue taking steps forward.

Jeremy

Re: Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Posted by Austin Leahy <Au...@digitalminion.com>.

I believe I am now subscribed to all the lists now but I'm not totally sure
how to check


On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:40 PM Uma gangumalla <um...@apache.org> wrote:

> I can access it.
>
> PPMC (25)
>
> (the listing below excludes mentors)
>
>
> I can see current private@ subscribers 14
> 11 more to subscribe.
>
> Regards,
> Uma
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:25 PM Tadd Wood <ta...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Justin,
> >
> > I think Whimsy might be down or having some issues right now (I'm seeing
> > 500 errors anytime I click a name), but is there a definitive list or
> > reference to the 13 that are missing so we can reach out to them?
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Tadd Wood
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 3:30 PM Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I can still see that 13 people on your PPMC are not signed up to the
> > > private mailing list. Can someone please look into this and try and
> > correct
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > justin
> > >
> >
>

Re: Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Posted by Uma gangumalla <um...@apache.org>.

I can access it.

PPMC (25)

(the listing below excludes mentors)


I can see current private@ subscribers 14
11 more to subscribe.

Regards,
Uma

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 4:25 PM Tadd Wood <ta...@apache.org> wrote:

> Justin,
>
> I think Whimsy might be down or having some issues right now (I'm seeing
> 500 errors anytime I click a name), but is there a definitive list or
> reference to the 13 that are missing so we can reach out to them?
>
> Thank you,
> Tadd Wood
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 3:30 PM Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I can still see that 13 people on your PPMC are not signed up to the
> > private mailing list. Can someone please look into this and try and
> correct
> > it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > justin
> >
>

Re: Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Posted by Austin Leahy <le...@apache.org>.

Hey Justin I believe that I tad and I are subscribed now did we do
something wrong? can you specifically send links to the lists we are
talking about here

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 1:59 PM Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I see no change in the subscriptions, is the PPMC looking into this? How
> can these people be PPMC members if they do not follow the private list?
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>

Re: Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Posted by Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>.

Hi,

I see no change in the subscriptions, is the PPMC looking into this? How can these people be PPMC members if they do not follow the private list?

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Posted by Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>.

HI,

These are the people not subscribed:
Ashrith Mekala
Austin Leahy
Brandon Edwards
Everardo Lopez Sandoval
Gustavo Lujan
Morris Hicks
Nathan L Segerlind
Sai Ganji
Srinivas
Sudarshan Rao
Tadd Wood
Vartika Singh
Victor Gonzalez

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Posted by Tadd Wood <ta...@apache.org>.

Justin,

I think Whimsy might be down or having some issues right now (I'm seeing
500 errors anytime I click a name), but is there a definitive list or
reference to the 13 that are missing so we can reach out to them?

Thank you,
Tadd Wood

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 3:30 PM Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I can still see that 13 people on your PPMC are not signed up to the
> private mailing list. Can someone please look into this and try and correct
> it.
>
> Thanks,
> justin
>

Re: Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Posted by Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>.

Hi,

I can still see that 13 people on your PPMC are not signed up to the private mailing list. Can someone please look into this and try and correct it.

Thanks,
justin

Re: Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Posted by Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>.

Hi,

> What's strange is that if I click on Austin's user (as an example) it
> doesn't show he's subscribed to any of the lists which doesn't make any
> sense given that he's obviously on the dev list. 

I think you can only see your own subscriptions.

> When I click on my user though I see that I'm a
> part of dev and committers, which makes sense but I'm also pretty sure I've
> used the private list in the past as well.

You can be in LDAP as a committer our PPMC members but not signed up to the mailing list. You are not signed up to the private mailing list.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Posted by Tadd Wood <ta...@apache.org>.

Justin,

I see this note on the PPMC guide (
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html):

The mentors should verify that all PPMC members are subscribed to the
private list. The Whimsy Podling Roster
<https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/> shows who is subscribed, and any
subscriber can send a "ping - please reply" message to check who is
actually "listening" to the PPMC list.

What's strange is that if I click on Austin's user (as an example) it
doesn't show he's subscribed to any of the lists which doesn't make any
sense given that he's obviously on the dev list.  Any idea why there would
be an inconsistency here?  When I click on my user though I see that I'm a
part of dev and committers, which makes sense but I'm also pretty sure I've
used the private list in the past as well.

Thank you,
Tadd Wood

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:08 PM Austin Leahy <au...@digitalminion.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for surfacing this are there anymore of these?
>
> > On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:52 PM, Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > You should look to fixing up your PPMC at the same time, many PPMC
> members are not subscribed to the private mailing list, it is a requirement
> that they do so.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
>

Re: Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Posted by Austin Leahy <au...@digitalminion.com>.

Thanks for surfacing this are there anymore of these?

> On Jan 15, 2020, at 8:52 PM, Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You should look to fixing up your PPMC at the same time, many PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list, it is a requirement that they do so.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin

Re: Improving conformance with Apache Podling expectations

Posted by Justin Mclean <jm...@apache.org>.

Hi,

You should look to fixing up your PPMC at the same time, many PPMC members are not subscribed to the private mailing list, it is a requirement that they do so.

Thanks,
Justin