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Posted to user@ofbiz.apache.org by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com> on 2010/07/30 17:44:25 UTC
Release 9.04 and version #s
Hello List:
I've noticed in recent distributions of OFBiz 9.04 (as available on the
main download site http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html) that there
doesn't seem to be any indication of the OFBiz version anywhere. Am I
overlooking something, or has this information been removed and no
longer available for these downloads?
TIA
Ruth
Re: Release 9.04 and version #s
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi BJ:
No doubt fixes are being made and applied. That really isn't my point.
My point is that this makes it almost impossible for a user such as
myself to report bugs. Certainly the challenges to reporting problems
get more impressive as time goes on. (You and others on this list might
ask yourselves - so, who is reporting bugs? Just developers and committers?)
Anyhow, thanks again for confirming this for me.
Regards,
Ruth
BJ Freeman wrote:
> I just looked at the history and since june 25 fixes have been done.
> I don't see any lack of support for 9.04.
> there has even been bug fixes on 4.0
>
> BJ Freeman sent the following on 7/30/2010 9:33 AM:
>> The part you missing is 9.04 is frozen and will not be changed at all.
>> now the branch 9.04 is active and can have the bug fixes.
>> so if you have a bug, then use the svn branch to run the same scenario
>> and see if you can produce it. if not then it has been fixed, if so then
>> use the current svn version for the branch 9.04.
>>
>> my 2 cents
>>
>>
>> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 9:22 AM:
>>> Hi BJ:
>>> Thanks for the info. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> The following is just my opinion, so anyone not interested in my
>>> opinions, just skip this: To be sure this was a really "clever" move on
>>> the project's part. How in the world would anyone be able to report
>>> back
>>> errors specific to versions? But then, maybe that was the intention. To
>>> paraphrase this old saying: "no news is good news": I guess no bug
>>> reports is "good" bug reports. Gotta just shake my head and wonder if
>>> any of the project team members care about anything but the latest
>>> trunk
>>> commits.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, thanks much for your response.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>> as far as I can tell once the release is put in a zip file the number
>>>> is apache-ofbiz-09.04.zip the next version would be
>>>> apache-ofbiz-09.04.1.zip
>>>> the SVN data is striped by using the export function.
>>>> to track back to SVN you need to look at the date in the dev list it
>>>> was made into a zipfile and look at the svn history(april 2010).
>>>> Unfortunately Eclipse only goes back a month so can see the svn
>>>> version for april.
>>>> The commit mailing list shows the website being changed 4/24
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=937602&view=rev
>>>>
>>>> Jacopo had made a comment that they would try to release a new version
>>>> every month but have not heard any more on this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 8:44 AM:
>>>>> Hello List:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've noticed in recent distributions of OFBiz 9.04 (as available
>>>>> on the
>>>>> main download site http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html) that there
>>>>> doesn't seem to be any indication of the OFBiz version anywhere. Am I
>>>>> overlooking something, or has this information been removed and no
>>>>> longer available for these downloads?
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Release 9.04 and version #s
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
I just looked at the history and since june 25 fixes have been done.
I don't see any lack of support for 9.04.
there has even been bug fixes on 4.0
BJ Freeman sent the following on 7/30/2010 9:33 AM:
> The part you missing is 9.04 is frozen and will not be changed at all.
> now the branch 9.04 is active and can have the bug fixes.
> so if you have a bug, then use the svn branch to run the same scenario
> and see if you can produce it. if not then it has been fixed, if so then
> use the current svn version for the branch 9.04.
>
> my 2 cents
>
>
> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 9:22 AM:
>> Hi BJ:
>> Thanks for the info. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
>>
>> The following is just my opinion, so anyone not interested in my
>> opinions, just skip this: To be sure this was a really "clever" move on
>> the project's part. How in the world would anyone be able to report back
>> errors specific to versions? But then, maybe that was the intention. To
>> paraphrase this old saying: "no news is good news": I guess no bug
>> reports is "good" bug reports. Gotta just shake my head and wonder if
>> any of the project team members care about anything but the latest trunk
>> commits.
>>
>> Anyhow, thanks much for your response.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Ruth
>>
>>
>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>> as far as I can tell once the release is put in a zip file the number
>>> is apache-ofbiz-09.04.zip the next version would be
>>> apache-ofbiz-09.04.1.zip
>>> the SVN data is striped by using the export function.
>>> to track back to SVN you need to look at the date in the dev list it
>>> was made into a zipfile and look at the svn history(april 2010).
>>> Unfortunately Eclipse only goes back a month so can see the svn
>>> version for april.
>>> The commit mailing list shows the website being changed 4/24
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=937602&view=rev
>>>
>>> Jacopo had made a comment that they would try to release a new version
>>> every month but have not heard any more on this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 8:44 AM:
>>>> Hello List:
>>>>
>>>> I've noticed in recent distributions of OFBiz 9.04 (as available on the
>>>> main download site http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html) that there
>>>> doesn't seem to be any indication of the OFBiz version anywhere. Am I
>>>> overlooking something, or has this information been removed and no
>>>> longer available for these downloads?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Release 9.04 and version #s
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
The part you missing is 9.04 is frozen and will not be changed at all.
now the branch 9.04 is active and can have the bug fixes.
so if you have a bug, then use the svn branch to run the same scenario
and see if you can produce it. if not then it has been fixed, if so
then use the current svn version for the branch 9.04.
my 2 cents
Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 9:22 AM:
> Hi BJ:
> Thanks for the info. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
>
> The following is just my opinion, so anyone not interested in my
> opinions, just skip this: To be sure this was a really "clever" move on
> the project's part. How in the world would anyone be able to report back
> errors specific to versions? But then, maybe that was the intention. To
> paraphrase this old saying: "no news is good news": I guess no bug
> reports is "good" bug reports. Gotta just shake my head and wonder if
> any of the project team members care about anything but the latest trunk
> commits.
>
> Anyhow, thanks much for your response.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ruth
>
>
> BJ Freeman wrote:
>> as far as I can tell once the release is put in a zip file the number
>> is apache-ofbiz-09.04.zip the next version would be
>> apache-ofbiz-09.04.1.zip
>> the SVN data is striped by using the export function.
>> to track back to SVN you need to look at the date in the dev list it
>> was made into a zipfile and look at the svn history(april 2010).
>> Unfortunately Eclipse only goes back a month so can see the svn
>> version for april.
>> The commit mailing list shows the website being changed 4/24
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=937602&view=rev
>>
>> Jacopo had made a comment that they would try to release a new version
>> every month but have not heard any more on this.
>>
>>
>> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 8:44 AM:
>>> Hello List:
>>>
>>> I've noticed in recent distributions of OFBiz 9.04 (as available on the
>>> main download site http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html) that there
>>> doesn't seem to be any indication of the OFBiz version anywhere. Am I
>>> overlooking something, or has this information been removed and no
>>> longer available for these downloads?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>
>
Re: Release 9.04 and version #s
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
From: "Adrian Crum" <ad...@hlmksw.com>
> Ruth,
>
> You should be careful about shaking your head - something might fall out.
:D
Jacques
Re: Release 9.04 and version #s
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
just a note
if you report based on the svn of the 9.04 you will probably be ask to
verify against the current branch of 9.04 to see if it still exist.
and the patch you submit would have to be the against the current branch.
Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 9:58 AM:
> Hi Adrian:
> Done shaking. Boy, that hurts...too many things rattling around in
> there...but I can honestly say, nothing fell out.
> I will make that suggestion.
> Regards,
> Ruth
>
> Adrian Crum wrote:
>> Ruth,
>>
>> You should be careful about shaking your head - something might fall out.
>>
>> Many of the project team members have committed themselves to
>> maintaining the various releases. When bugs are reported and patches
>> are provided, the appropriate release branches are updated.
>>
>> The Apache Software Foundation has strict rules about binary release
>> distribution. There are a number of tasks involved in creating a
>> binary release, so the process depends a lot on team member availability.
>>
>> To aid in determining a binary release's revision, we could create
>> tags in the repository - and those tags would associate revisions with
>> release versions.
>>
>> When you're through shaking your head, maybe you could post a
>> suggestion on the dev mailing list.
>>
>> -Adrian
>>
>>
>> On 7/30/2010 9:22 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>> Hi BJ:
>>> Thanks for the info. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
>>>
>>> The following is just my opinion, so anyone not interested in my
>>> opinions, just skip this: To be sure this was a really "clever" move on
>>> the project's part. How in the world would anyone be able to report back
>>> errors specific to versions? But then, maybe that was the intention. To
>>> paraphrase this old saying: "no news is good news": I guess no bug
>>> reports is "good" bug reports. Gotta just shake my head and wonder if
>>> any of the project team members care about anything but the latest trunk
>>> commits.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, thanks much for your response.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>> as far as I can tell once the release is put in a zip file the number
>>>> is apache-ofbiz-09.04.zip the next version would be
>>>> apache-ofbiz-09.04.1.zip
>>>> the SVN data is striped by using the export function.
>>>> to track back to SVN you need to look at the date in the dev list it
>>>> was made into a zipfile and look at the svn history(april 2010).
>>>> Unfortunately Eclipse only goes back a month so can see the svn
>>>> version for april.
>>>> The commit mailing list shows the website being changed 4/24
>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=937602&view=rev
>>>>
>>>> Jacopo had made a comment that they would try to release a new version
>>>> every month but have not heard any more on this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 8:44 AM:
>>>>> Hello List:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've noticed in recent distributions of OFBiz 9.04 (as available on
>>>>> the
>>>>> main download site http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html) that there
>>>>> doesn't seem to be any indication of the OFBiz version anywhere. Am I
>>>>> overlooking something, or has this information been removed and no
>>>>> longer available for these downloads?
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Release 9.04 and version #s
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi Adrian:
Done shaking. Boy, that hurts...too many things rattling around in
there...but I can honestly say, nothing fell out.
I will make that suggestion.
Regards,
Ruth
Adrian Crum wrote:
> Ruth,
>
> You should be careful about shaking your head - something might fall out.
>
> Many of the project team members have committed themselves to
> maintaining the various releases. When bugs are reported and patches
> are provided, the appropriate release branches are updated.
>
> The Apache Software Foundation has strict rules about binary release
> distribution. There are a number of tasks involved in creating a
> binary release, so the process depends a lot on team member availability.
>
> To aid in determining a binary release's revision, we could create
> tags in the repository - and those tags would associate revisions with
> release versions.
>
> When you're through shaking your head, maybe you could post a
> suggestion on the dev mailing list.
>
> -Adrian
>
>
> On 7/30/2010 9:22 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> Hi BJ:
>> Thanks for the info. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
>>
>> The following is just my opinion, so anyone not interested in my
>> opinions, just skip this: To be sure this was a really "clever" move on
>> the project's part. How in the world would anyone be able to report back
>> errors specific to versions? But then, maybe that was the intention. To
>> paraphrase this old saying: "no news is good news": I guess no bug
>> reports is "good" bug reports. Gotta just shake my head and wonder if
>> any of the project team members care about anything but the latest trunk
>> commits.
>>
>> Anyhow, thanks much for your response.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Ruth
>>
>>
>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>> as far as I can tell once the release is put in a zip file the number
>>> is apache-ofbiz-09.04.zip the next version would be
>>> apache-ofbiz-09.04.1.zip
>>> the SVN data is striped by using the export function.
>>> to track back to SVN you need to look at the date in the dev list it
>>> was made into a zipfile and look at the svn history(april 2010).
>>> Unfortunately Eclipse only goes back a month so can see the svn
>>> version for april.
>>> The commit mailing list shows the website being changed 4/24
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=937602&view=rev
>>>
>>> Jacopo had made a comment that they would try to release a new version
>>> every month but have not heard any more on this.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 8:44 AM:
>>>> Hello List:
>>>>
>>>> I've noticed in recent distributions of OFBiz 9.04 (as available on
>>>> the
>>>> main download site http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html) that there
>>>> doesn't seem to be any indication of the OFBiz version anywhere. Am I
>>>> overlooking something, or has this information been removed and no
>>>> longer available for these downloads?
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>> Ruth
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Release 9.04 and version #s
Posted by Wai <bz...@gmail.com>.
Hello All,
I have a suggestion. It might be helpful if the svn revision# and/or tag
become part of the filename itself.
For nightly builds, the filename could be:
apache-ofbiz-build-somesvnrevisionnumber.zip
For official releases, the filename could be: apache-ofbiz-sometagname.zip,
where a tagname is created in svn to mark the revision that is used in
the release.
where tagname=RELEASE_majorversion#_minorversion#_maintversion#
This way, a user or developer could use the information to identify the
precise revision to confirm/resolve bugs, and so forth.
Thanks,
Wai
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Re: Release 9.04 and version #s
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@hlmksw.com>.
Ruth,
You should be careful about shaking your head - something might fall out.
Many of the project team members have committed themselves to
maintaining the various releases. When bugs are reported and patches are
provided, the appropriate release branches are updated.
The Apache Software Foundation has strict rules about binary release
distribution. There are a number of tasks involved in creating a binary
release, so the process depends a lot on team member availability.
To aid in determining a binary release's revision, we could create tags
in the repository - and those tags would associate revisions with
release versions.
When you're through shaking your head, maybe you could post a suggestion
on the dev mailing list.
-Adrian
On 7/30/2010 9:22 AM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
> Hi BJ:
> Thanks for the info. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
>
> The following is just my opinion, so anyone not interested in my
> opinions, just skip this: To be sure this was a really "clever" move on
> the project's part. How in the world would anyone be able to report back
> errors specific to versions? But then, maybe that was the intention. To
> paraphrase this old saying: "no news is good news": I guess no bug
> reports is "good" bug reports. Gotta just shake my head and wonder if
> any of the project team members care about anything but the latest trunk
> commits.
>
> Anyhow, thanks much for your response.
>
> Best Regards,
> Ruth
>
>
> BJ Freeman wrote:
>> as far as I can tell once the release is put in a zip file the number
>> is apache-ofbiz-09.04.zip the next version would be
>> apache-ofbiz-09.04.1.zip
>> the SVN data is striped by using the export function.
>> to track back to SVN you need to look at the date in the dev list it
>> was made into a zipfile and look at the svn history(april 2010).
>> Unfortunately Eclipse only goes back a month so can see the svn
>> version for april.
>> The commit mailing list shows the website being changed 4/24
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=937602&view=rev
>>
>> Jacopo had made a comment that they would try to release a new version
>> every month but have not heard any more on this.
>>
>>
>> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 8:44 AM:
>>> Hello List:
>>>
>>> I've noticed in recent distributions of OFBiz 9.04 (as available on the
>>> main download site http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html) that there
>>> doesn't seem to be any indication of the OFBiz version anywhere. Am I
>>> overlooking something, or has this information been removed and no
>>> longer available for these downloads?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Ruth
>>>
>>
>
Re: Release 9.04 and version #s
Posted by Ruth Hoffman <rh...@aesolves.com>.
Hi BJ:
Thanks for the info. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.
The following is just my opinion, so anyone not interested in my
opinions, just skip this: To be sure this was a really "clever" move on
the project's part. How in the world would anyone be able to report back
errors specific to versions? But then, maybe that was the intention. To
paraphrase this old saying: "no news is good news": I guess no bug
reports is "good" bug reports. Gotta just shake my head and wonder if
any of the project team members care about anything but the latest trunk
commits.
Anyhow, thanks much for your response.
Best Regards,
Ruth
BJ Freeman wrote:
> as far as I can tell once the release is put in a zip file the number
> is apache-ofbiz-09.04.zip the next version would be
> apache-ofbiz-09.04.1.zip
> the SVN data is striped by using the export function.
> to track back to SVN you need to look at the date in the dev list it
> was made into a zipfile and look at the svn history(april 2010).
> Unfortunately Eclipse only goes back a month so can see the svn
> version for april.
> The commit mailing list shows the website being changed 4/24
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=937602&view=rev
>
> Jacopo had made a comment that they would try to release a new
> version every month but have not heard any more on this.
>
>
> Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 8:44 AM:
>> Hello List:
>>
>> I've noticed in recent distributions of OFBiz 9.04 (as available on the
>> main download site http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html) that there
>> doesn't seem to be any indication of the OFBiz version anywhere. Am I
>> overlooking something, or has this information been removed and no
>> longer available for these downloads?
>>
>> TIA
>> Ruth
>>
>
Re: Release 9.04 and version #s
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
as far as I can tell once the release is put in a zip file the number is
apache-ofbiz-09.04.zip the next version would be apache-ofbiz-09.04.1.zip
the SVN data is striped by using the export function.
to track back to SVN you need to look at the date in the dev list it was
made into a zipfile and look at the svn history(april 2010).
Unfortunately Eclipse only goes back a month so can see the svn version
for april.
The commit mailing list shows the website being changed 4/24
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=937602&view=rev
Jacopo had made a comment that they would try to release a new version
every month but have not heard any more on this.
Ruth Hoffman sent the following on 7/30/2010 8:44 AM:
> Hello List:
>
> I've noticed in recent distributions of OFBiz 9.04 (as available on the
> main download site http://ofbiz.apache.org/download.html) that there
> doesn't seem to be any indication of the OFBiz version anywhere. Am I
> overlooking something, or has this information been removed and no
> longer available for these downloads?
>
> TIA
> Ruth
>