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How to enable file based persistence ?

I installed and started successfully Apache ActiveMQ v5.3.0.

How do I enable now file based persistence?

If I send a JMS message to the broker it appears in Console.
But after shutdown and restart (of ActiveMQ) this JMS message is not longer
available.

Which parameter do I have to set to store all JMS messages in a file in lets
say

D:\jms\messstore.dat

Ben
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Re: How to enable file based persistence ?

Posted by BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk>.
Hello Felix,

I am using pure ActiveMQ MessageBroker v5.3.0 (see output below) - no FUSE
stuff.

The fact that the line:
"Installing ForcePersistencyModeBroker plugin: persistency enforced=true""
does not appear in my output does not mean that it would not work.
I think I have to find the correct, official declaration in activemq.xml at
first:

Ben

Loading message broker from: xbean:activemq.xml
 INFO | Using Persistence Adapter:
org.apache.activemq.store.kahadb.KahaDBPersistenceAdapter@1b01afa
 INFO | Replayed 1 operations from the journal in 0.016 seconds.
 INFO | ActiveMQ 5.3.0 JMS Message Broker (localhost) is starting
 INFO | For help or more information please see: http://activemq.apache.org/
 INFO | Listening for connections at: tcp://crystal:61616
 INFO | Connector openwire Started
 INFO | ActiveMQ JMS Message Broker (localhost, ID:crystal-0:0) started
 INFO | Logging to org.slf4j.impl.JCLLoggerAdapter(org.mortbay.log) via
org.mortbay.log.Slf4jLog
 INFO | jetty-6.1.9
 INFO | ActiveMQ WebConsole initialized.
 INFO | Initializing Spring FrameworkServlet 'dispatcher'
 INFO | ActiveMQ Console at http://0.0.0.0:8161/admin
 INFO | Initializing Spring root WebApplicationContext
 INFO | Connector vm://localhost Started
 INFO | Camel Console at http://0.0.0.0:8161/camel
 

fehm wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> looking at the available releases (Apache & FUSE) I see that the FUSE
> release does not contain the plugin.
> Therefore you can't use the FUSE release. 
> 
> However using the Apache ActiveMQ release
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?path=%2Factivemq%2Fapache-activemq%2F5.3.2%2Fapache-activemq-5.3.2-bin.zip
> I was able to activate the plugin with the configuration example stated in
> the issue AMQ-2339.
> 
> 
> You should then see something like :
> 
> 
> // Broker output :
> Loading message broker from: xbean:activemq.xml
>  INFO | Using Persistence Adapter:
> org.apache.activemq.store.kahadb.KahaDBPersistenceAdapter@1e0f2f6
>  INFO | Replayed 1 operations from the journal in 0.016 seconds.
>  INFO | ActiveMQ 5.3.2 JMS Message Broker (localhost) is starting
>  INFO | For help or more information please see:
> http://activemq.apache.org/
>  INFO | Installing ForcePersistencyModeBroker plugin: persistency
> enforced=true
>  INFO | Listening for connections at: tcp://abpc11513:61616
>  INFO | Connector openwire Started
>  INFO | ActiveMQ JMS Message Broker (localhost,
> ID:abpc11513-1432-1279268856274-0:0) started
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Could you please check your release and let me know which one you have ?
> Thanks,
> Felix
> 
> 
> 
> BenXS wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Gary Tully wrote:
>>> 
>>> you need to add the attribute: persistenceFlag="true"
>>> 
>> 
>> Hmm, I don't understand. Currently I put into activemq.xml:
>> 
>> <bean xmlns="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans"
>> id="forcePersistencyModeBroker"
>> class="org.apache.activemq.plugin.ForcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin"> 
>> <property name="persistenceFlag" value="true"/> 
>> </bean> 
>> 
>> 
>> ...but it didn't help. According to your suggestion I set the value to
>> "true".
>> 
>> So what's wrong?
>> 
>> Your wrote earlier to code:
>> <plugins> 
>>   <forcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin/> 
>> </plugins>
>> 
>> This is different from what is told on page:
>> 
>> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-2339
>> 
>> So again: How do I officially setup forcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin?
>> 
>> Thank you
>> Ben
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: How to enable file based persistence ?

Posted by fehm <Fe...@cern.ch>.
Hi,

looking at the available releases (Apache & FUSE) I see that the FUSE
release does not contain the plugin.
Therefore you can't use the FUSE release. 

However using the Apache ActiveMQ release
http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi?path=%2Factivemq%2Fapache-activemq%2F5.3.2%2Fapache-activemq-5.3.2-bin.zip
I was able to activate the plugin with the configuration example stated in
the issue AMQ-2339.


Could you please check your release and let me know which one you have ?
Thanks,
Felix



BenXS wrote:
> 
> 
> Gary Tully wrote:
>> 
>> you need to add the attribute: persistenceFlag="true"
>> 
> 
> Hmm, I don't understand. Currently I put into activemq.xml:
> 
> <bean xmlns="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans"
> id="forcePersistencyModeBroker"
> class="org.apache.activemq.plugin.ForcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin"> 
> <property name="persistenceFlag" value="true"/> 
> </bean> 
> 
> 
> ...but it didn't help. According to your suggestion I set the value to
> "true".
> 
> So what's wrong?
> 
> Your wrote earlier to code:
> <plugins> 
>   <forcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin/> 
> </plugins>
> 
> This is different from what is told on page:
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-2339
> 
> So again: How do I officially setup forcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin?
> 
> Thank you
> Ben
> 


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Re: How to enable file based persistence ?

Posted by BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk>.

Gary Tully wrote:
> 
> you need to add the attribute: persistenceFlag="true"
> 

Hmm, I don't understand. Currently I put into activemq.xml:

<bean xmlns="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans"
id="forcePersistencyModeBroker"
class="org.apache.activemq.plugin.ForcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin"> 
<property name="persistenceFlag" value="true"/> 
</bean> 


...but it didn't help. According to your suggestion I set the value to
"true".

So what's wrong?

Your wrote earlier to code:
<plugins> 
  <forcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin/> 
</plugins>

This is different from what is told on page:

https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-2339

So again: How do I officially setup forcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin?

Thank you
Ben
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Re: How to enable file based persistence ?

Posted by Gary Tully <ga...@gmail.com>.
you need to add the attribute: persistenceFlag="true"

On 3 March 2010 11:55, BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> So ok, I inserted the code:
>
> <bean xmlns="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans"
> id="forcePersistencyModeBroker"
> class="org.apache.activemq.plugin.ForcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin">
> <property name="persistenceFlag" value="false"/>
> </bean>
>
> from page:
>
> D:\java\JMS\Apache ActiveMQ\docs\initial setup\config persistence\enforcing
> persistency\Enforcing persistent mode for incoming messages (03.2010).mht
>
> into the
>
> <plugins>
> ...
> </plugins>
>
> section of activemq.xml. Then I restarted ActiveMQ and sent an JMS message
> to the MessBroker.
> The JMS message appears in the ActiveMQ browser console.
> Now I restarted ActiveMQ and .... the JMS msgs is destroyed. No JMS msgs is
> visible in Queue in browser console. There is still no persistency!
>
> So how does force persistency work otherwise?
>
> Ben
>
>
> Gary Tully wrote:
> >
> > yea. that plugin is part of 5.3, the fix version is 5.3.0 so you just
> need
> > to add the relevant config,
> > It is an element in the plugins list and uses xbean so you can use
> > <plugins>
> >  <forcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin/>
> > </plugins>
> >
> > see: http://activemq.apache.org/developing-plugins.html
> >
> > On 3 March 2010 10:04, BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Ok, thank you. But one more question:
> >>
> >> On the bottom of the webpage you mentioned it is written:
> >>
> >> "Patch applied in revision 800274"
> >>
> >> What does that mean? A patch is a fix for a bug. But the missing "force
> >> persistency" is not a bug but a new feature.
> >> Furthermore a revision is listed: Is this revision part of the already
> >> released version 5.3?
> >>
> >> Does that mean that I do not have to compile the attached *.java files
> >> because they are already included in v5.3? That would mean I have only
> to
> >> write the <bean> statements into activemq.xml
> >>
> >> Is this correct?
> >>
> >> Ben
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gary Tully wrote:
> >> >
> >> > see https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-2339 for a plugin
> >> that
> >> > forces all messages to be persistent.
> >> >
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: How to enable file based persistence ?

Posted by BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk>.
So ok, I inserted the code:

<bean xmlns="http://www.springframework.org/schema/beans"
id="forcePersistencyModeBroker"
class="org.apache.activemq.plugin.ForcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin">
<property name="persistenceFlag" value="false"/>
</bean>

from page:

D:\java\JMS\Apache ActiveMQ\docs\initial setup\config persistence\enforcing
persistency\Enforcing persistent mode for incoming messages (03.2010).mht

into the 

<plugins>
...
</plugins>

section of activemq.xml. Then I restarted ActiveMQ and sent an JMS message
to the MessBroker. 
The JMS message appears in the ActiveMQ browser console. 
Now I restarted ActiveMQ and .... the JMS msgs is destroyed. No JMS msgs is
visible in Queue in browser console. There is still no persistency!

So how does force persistency work otherwise?

Ben


Gary Tully wrote:
> 
> yea. that plugin is part of 5.3, the fix version is 5.3.0 so you just need
> to add the relevant config,
> It is an element in the plugins list and uses xbean so you can use
> <plugins>
>  <forcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin/>
> </plugins>
> 
> see: http://activemq.apache.org/developing-plugins.html
> 
> On 3 March 2010 10:04, BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Ok, thank you. But one more question:
>>
>> On the bottom of the webpage you mentioned it is written:
>>
>> "Patch applied in revision 800274"
>>
>> What does that mean? A patch is a fix for a bug. But the missing "force
>> persistency" is not a bug but a new feature.
>> Furthermore a revision is listed: Is this revision part of the already
>> released version 5.3?
>>
>> Does that mean that I do not have to compile the attached *.java files
>> because they are already included in v5.3? That would mean I have only to
>> write the <bean> statements into activemq.xml
>>
>> Is this correct?
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>>
>> Gary Tully wrote:
>> >
>> > see https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-2339 for a plugin
>> that
>> > forces all messages to be persistent.
>> >
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://old.nabble.com/How-to-enable-file-based-persistence---tp27637236p27766258.html
>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> Open Source Integration
> http://fusesource.com
> 
> 

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Re: How to enable file based persistence ?

Posted by Gary Tully <ga...@gmail.com>.
yea. that plugin is part of 5.3, the fix version is 5.3.0 so you just need
to add the relevant config,
It is an element in the plugins list and uses xbean so you can use
<plugins>
 <forcePersistencyModeBrokerPlugin/>
</plugins>

see: http://activemq.apache.org/developing-plugins.html

On 3 March 2010 10:04, BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Ok, thank you. But one more question:
>
> On the bottom of the webpage you mentioned it is written:
>
> "Patch applied in revision 800274"
>
> What does that mean? A patch is a fix for a bug. But the missing "force
> persistency" is not a bug but a new feature.
> Furthermore a revision is listed: Is this revision part of the already
> released version 5.3?
>
> Does that mean that I do not have to compile the attached *.java files
> because they are already included in v5.3? That would mean I have only to
> write the <bean> statements into activemq.xml
>
> Is this correct?
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> Gary Tully wrote:
> >
> > see https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-2339 for a plugin that
> > forces all messages to be persistent.
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/How-to-enable-file-based-persistence---tp27637236p27766258.html
> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>


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Re: How to enable file based persistence ?

Posted by BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk>.
Ok, thank you. But one more question:

On the bottom of the webpage you mentioned it is written:

"Patch applied in revision 800274" 

What does that mean? A patch is a fix for a bug. But the missing "force
persistency" is not a bug but a new feature.
Furthermore a revision is listed: Is this revision part of the already
released version 5.3?

Does that mean that I do not have to compile the attached *.java files
because they are already included in v5.3? That would mean I have only to
write the <bean> statements into activemq.xml

Is this correct?

Ben



Gary Tully wrote:
> 
> see https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-2339 for a plugin that
> forces all messages to be persistent.
> 

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Re: How to enable file based persistence ?

Posted by Gary Tully <ga...@gmail.com>.
see https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-2339 for a plugin that
forces all messages to be persistent.

On 3 March 2010 09:35, BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Is there a way to force ActiveMQ to store inbound JMS msgs even if they are
> NOT declared as persistent?
>
> Background: I send JMS msgs (payload) from well known HermesJMS tool to
> ActiveMQ  over menu
> Messages->TextMessages
>
> Here I cannot pass or define a JMS header for these JMS messages. The JMS
> header for these msgs
> is automatically created by HermesJMS and contains (unchangeable)
>
> JMSDeliveryMode = 1 (=non persistent)
>
> However I would like to have them peristent anyway.
>
> So I could imagine that there is a parameter "force persistence" in
> ActiveMQ.
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> Sebastian Rodriguez-2 wrote:
> >
> > by default the messages in activeMQ are persistent. They will use the
> file
> > data store: ActiveMq Message
> > Store<http://activemq.apache.org/amq-message-store.html>,
> > although since 5.3 it's recommended to use the
> > KahaDb<http://activemq.apache.org/kahadb.html>
> > .
> > Look at the pages on how to enable / configure / tune the two different
> > file
> > stores.
> >
> > On 18 February 2010 20:36, Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> ActiveMQ persists messages by default. It only depends whether producer
> >> sends it as persistent or not. Take a look at this article for more
> info:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://activemq.apache.org/what-is-the-difference-between-persistent-and-non-persistent-delivery.html
> >>
> >> Also, if you're trying examples that comes with ActiveMQ, be sure to use
> >>
> >> ant producer -Ddurable=true
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> --
> >> Dejan Bosanac - http://twitter.com/dejanb
> >>
> >> Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
> >> ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
> >> Blog - http://www.nighttale.net
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I installed and started successfully Apache ActiveMQ v5.3.0.
> >> >
> >> > How do I enable now file based persistence?
> >> >
> >> > If I send a JMS message to the broker it appears in Console.
> >> > But after shutdown and restart (of ActiveMQ) this JMS message is not
> >> longer
> >> > available.
> >> >
> >> > Which parameter do I have to set to store all JMS messages in a file
> in
> >> > lets
> >> > say
> >> >
> >> > D:\jms\messstore.dat
> >> >
> >> > Ben
> >> > --
> >> > View this message in context:
> >> >
> >>
> http://old.nabble.com/How-to-enable-file-based-persistence---tp27637236p27637236.html
> >> > Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > --
> > Sebastien Rodriguez
> >
> >
>
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>
>


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Re: How to enable file based persistence ?

Posted by BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk>.
Is there a way to force ActiveMQ to store inbound JMS msgs even if they are
NOT declared as persistent?

Background: I send JMS msgs (payload) from well known HermesJMS tool to
ActiveMQ  over menu 
Messages->TextMessages

Here I cannot pass or define a JMS header for these JMS messages. The JMS
header for these msgs
is automatically created by HermesJMS and contains (unchangeable)

JMSDeliveryMode = 1 (=non persistent)

However I would like to have them peristent anyway.

So I could imagine that there is a parameter "force persistence" in
ActiveMQ.

Ben



Sebastian Rodriguez-2 wrote:
> 
> by default the messages in activeMQ are persistent. They will use the file
> data store: ActiveMq Message
> Store<http://activemq.apache.org/amq-message-store.html>,
> although since 5.3 it's recommended to use the
> KahaDb<http://activemq.apache.org/kahadb.html>
> .
> Look at the pages on how to enable / configure / tune the two different
> file
> stores.
> 
> On 18 February 2010 20:36, Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> ActiveMQ persists messages by default. It only depends whether producer
>> sends it as persistent or not. Take a look at this article for more info:
>>
>>
>> http://activemq.apache.org/what-is-the-difference-between-persistent-and-non-persistent-delivery.html
>>
>> Also, if you're trying examples that comes with ActiveMQ, be sure to use
>>
>> ant producer -Ddurable=true
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> Dejan Bosanac - http://twitter.com/dejanb
>>
>> Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
>> ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
>> Blog - http://www.nighttale.net
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I installed and started successfully Apache ActiveMQ v5.3.0.
>> >
>> > How do I enable now file based persistence?
>> >
>> > If I send a JMS message to the broker it appears in Console.
>> > But after shutdown and restart (of ActiveMQ) this JMS message is not
>> longer
>> > available.
>> >
>> > Which parameter do I have to set to store all JMS messages in a file in
>> > lets
>> > say
>> >
>> > D:\jms\messstore.dat
>> >
>> > Ben
>> > --
>> > View this message in context:
>> >
>> http://old.nabble.com/How-to-enable-file-based-persistence---tp27637236p27637236.html
>> > Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> -- 
> Sebastien Rodriguez
> 
> 

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Re: How to enable file based persistence ?

Posted by Sebastian Rodriguez <sr...@gmail.com>.
by default the messages in activeMQ are persistent. They will use the file
data store: ActiveMq Message
Store<http://activemq.apache.org/amq-message-store.html>,
although since 5.3 it's recommended to use the
KahaDb<http://activemq.apache.org/kahadb.html>
.
Look at the pages on how to enable / configure / tune the two different file
stores.

On 18 February 2010 20:36, Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> ActiveMQ persists messages by default. It only depends whether producer
> sends it as persistent or not. Take a look at this article for more info:
>
>
> http://activemq.apache.org/what-is-the-difference-between-persistent-and-non-persistent-delivery.html
>
> Also, if you're trying examples that comes with ActiveMQ, be sure to use
>
> ant producer -Ddurable=true
>
> Cheers
> --
> Dejan Bosanac - http://twitter.com/dejanb
>
> Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
> ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
> Blog - http://www.nighttale.net
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> > I installed and started successfully Apache ActiveMQ v5.3.0.
> >
> > How do I enable now file based persistence?
> >
> > If I send a JMS message to the broker it appears in Console.
> > But after shutdown and restart (of ActiveMQ) this JMS message is not
> longer
> > available.
> >
> > Which parameter do I have to set to store all JMS messages in a file in
> > lets
> > say
> >
> > D:\jms\messstore.dat
> >
> > Ben
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://old.nabble.com/How-to-enable-file-based-persistence---tp27637236p27637236.html
> > Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
>



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Re: How to enable file based persistence ?

Posted by Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net>.
Hi,

ActiveMQ persists messages by default. It only depends whether producer
sends it as persistent or not. Take a look at this article for more info:

http://activemq.apache.org/what-is-the-difference-between-persistent-and-non-persistent-delivery.html

Also, if you're trying examples that comes with ActiveMQ, be sure to use

ant producer -Ddurable=true

Cheers
--
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Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
Blog - http://www.nighttale.net


On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 12:04 PM, BenXS <bx...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> I installed and started successfully Apache ActiveMQ v5.3.0.
>
> How do I enable now file based persistence?
>
> If I send a JMS message to the broker it appears in Console.
> But after shutdown and restart (of ActiveMQ) this JMS message is not longer
> available.
>
> Which parameter do I have to set to store all JMS messages in a file in
> lets
> say
>
> D:\jms\messstore.dat
>
> Ben
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