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Posted to dev@tamaya.apache.org by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net> on 2014/12/02 21:19:47 UTC

Green Build

Dear all,

does someone object to set all not implemented tests to ignored? I would 
like to have a green aka non-failing build.

wdyt?

Oliver

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Re: Green Build

Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
BTW: Anatole, I am sure you are using Windows:

org.apache.tamaya.samples.annotations.ConfiguredTest fails on non 
windows machines because of

@ConfiguredProperty("COMPUTERNAME")

String computerName();

So, do we need a plattform abstraction layer? ;-)

Bye,

Oliver


Am 03.12.14 00:29, schrieb Anatole Tresch:
> So I suggest you should take the time to implement them instead of ignoring
> them ;)
>
> 2014-12-02 21:42 GMT+01:00 Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>:
>
>> Well said. Reason "Not yet implemented" ;-)
>>
>> Am 02.12.14 21:40, schrieb Andres Almiray:
>>
>>   Never trust a test you haven't seen fail at least once.
>>> You have to ask yourselves: what are tests failing today?
>>>
>>> Is it because the API they exercise has changed and test are out of date?
>>> Is is because the CUT do not fulfil the expected behavior?
>>>
>>> Ignoring all tests just for the sake of a green build right now sounds to
>>> me like trying to achieve 100% coverage no matter the cost.
>>>
>>> Quoting the great Adam Savage: failure is always an option. So question
>>> why we have broken tests instead of why can't I have a green build.
>>> Perspective matters.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Andres
>>>
>>> Sent from my primitive Tricorder
>>>
>>>   On 02/12/2014, at 21:19, Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> does someone object to set all not implemented tests to ignored? I would
>>>> like to have a green aka non-failing build.
>>>>
>>>> wdyt?
>>>>
>>>> Oliver
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>>>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>>>> P +49 30 44793251
>>>> M +49 178 7903538
>>>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>>>> S oliver.b.fischer
>>>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>>>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>>>
>>>>
>> --
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>
>>
>

-- 
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A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
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Re: Green Build

Posted by Anatole Tresch <at...@gmail.com>.
So I suggest you should take the time to implement them instead of ignoring
them ;)

2014-12-02 21:42 GMT+01:00 Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>:

> Well said. Reason "Not yet implemented" ;-)
>
> Am 02.12.14 21:40, schrieb Andres Almiray:
>
>  Never trust a test you haven't seen fail at least once.
>>
>> You have to ask yourselves: what are tests failing today?
>>
>> Is it because the API they exercise has changed and test are out of date?
>> Is is because the CUT do not fulfil the expected behavior?
>>
>> Ignoring all tests just for the sake of a green build right now sounds to
>> me like trying to achieve 100% coverage no matter the cost.
>>
>> Quoting the great Adam Savage: failure is always an option. So question
>> why we have broken tests instead of why can't I have a green build.
>> Perspective matters.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andres
>>
>> Sent from my primitive Tricorder
>>
>>  On 02/12/2014, at 21:19, Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> does someone object to set all not implemented tests to ignored? I would
>>> like to have a green aka non-failing build.
>>>
>>> wdyt?
>>>
>>> Oliver
>>>
>>> --
>>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>>> P +49 30 44793251
>>> M +49 178 7903538
>>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>>> S oliver.b.fischer
>>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>>
>>>
> --
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>
>


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Re: Green Build

Posted by "Oliver B. Fischer" <o....@swe-blog.net>.
Well said. Reason "Not yet implemented" ;-)

Am 02.12.14 21:40, schrieb Andres Almiray:
> Never trust a test you haven't seen fail at least once.
>
> You have to ask yourselves: what are tests failing today?
>
> Is it because the API they exercise has changed and test are out of date?
> Is is because the CUT do not fulfil the expected behavior?
>
> Ignoring all tests just for the sake of a green build right now sounds to me like trying to achieve 100% coverage no matter the cost.
>
> Quoting the great Adam Savage: failure is always an option. So question why we have broken tests instead of why can't I have a green build. Perspective matters.
>
> Cheers
> Andres
>
> Sent from my primitive Tricorder
>
>> On 02/12/2014, at 21:19, Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> does someone object to set all not implemented tests to ignored? I would like to have a green aka non-failing build.
>>
>> wdyt?
>>
>> Oliver
>>
>> -- 
>> N Oliver B. Fischer
>> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
>> P +49 30 44793251
>> M +49 178 7903538
>> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
>> S oliver.b.fischer
>> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
>> X http://xing.to/obf
>>

-- 
N Oliver B. Fischer
A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
P +49 30 44793251
M +49 178 7903538
E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
S oliver.b.fischer
J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
X http://xing.to/obf


Re: Green Build

Posted by Andres Almiray <aa...@gmail.com>.
Never trust a test you haven't seen fail at least once.

You have to ask yourselves: what are tests failing today?

Is it because the API they exercise has changed and test are out of date?
Is is because the CUT do not fulfil the expected behavior? 

Ignoring all tests just for the sake of a green build right now sounds to me like trying to achieve 100% coverage no matter the cost.

Quoting the great Adam Savage: failure is always an option. So question why we have broken tests instead of why can't I have a green build. Perspective matters.

Cheers
Andres

Sent from my primitive Tricorder

> On 02/12/2014, at 21:19, Oliver B. Fischer <o....@swe-blog.net> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> does someone object to set all not implemented tests to ignored? I would like to have a green aka non-failing build.
> 
> wdyt?
> 
> Oliver
> 
> -- 
> N Oliver B. Fischer
> A Schönhauser Allee 64, 10437 Berlin, Deutschland/Germany
> P +49 30 44793251
> M +49 178 7903538
> E o.b.fischer@swe-blog.net
> S oliver.b.fischer
> J oliver.b.fischer@jabber.org
> X http://xing.to/obf
>