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[DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Hi all,
As you may know netbeans.org currently holds the Oracle website.
Our initial plan was to make this "Oracle netbeans.org" website to start
serving under the "legacy.netbeans.org" domain, and then create an
"Apache netbeans.org" that could redirect missing pages to
"legacy.netbeans.org".
The problem is that making the change "Oracle netbeans.org" ->
"legacy.netbeans.org" seems more complicated than we initially
anticipated. The web server is setup in such a way that only works with
the "netbeans.org" domain. And making it start serving in
"legacy.netbeans.org" would require Oracle doing things.
Since we already have lots of content in netbeans.apache.org, maybe it's
simpler to request ASF-Infra to make the domain name change (and other
changes if required) and make "netbeans.org" start serving Apache content.
If nobody opposes I'll request this to ASF-Infra within 48h or so.
Thanks,
Antonio
P.S.: The Oracle content will still be accessible in case of need by
doing a simple local hack to your /etc/hosts file.
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
Certainly agree just move it over, but too, why not just point to
netbeans.apache.org versus that community page?
Thanks
Wade
On Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 01:30 Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So do we want to
>
> A) serve content directly from "https://netbeans.org"
> So, for instance, people can navigate to
> "https://netbeans.org/community/index.html"
>
> or
>
> B) Make "https://netbeans.org" redirect to "https://netbeans.apache.org"?
> So users are redirected to
> "https://netbeans.apache.org/community/index.html"
>
> After some conversations with @fluxo in the ASF-Infra chat [1], it seems
> solution A) above (using netbeans.org to serve content) will require
> some extra approval from the ASF-Infra administrator.
>
> Thanks,
> Antonio
>
>
> [1]
> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1554958859575300
>
> El 10/04/2019 a las 23:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> > +1, let’s get it done.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 21:57, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> As you may know netbeans.org currently holds the Oracle website.
> >>
> >> Our initial plan was to make this "Oracle netbeans.org" website to
> start
> >> serving under the "legacy.netbeans.org" domain, and then create an
> >> "Apache netbeans.org" that could redirect missing pages to
> >> "legacy.netbeans.org".
> >>
> >> The problem is that making the change "Oracle netbeans.org" ->
> >> "legacy.netbeans.org" seems more complicated than we initially
> >> anticipated. The web server is setup in such a way that only works with
> >> the "netbeans.org" domain. And making it start serving in
> >> "legacy.netbeans.org" would require Oracle doing things.
> >>
> >> Since we already have lots of content in netbeans.apache.org, maybe
> it's
> >> simpler to request ASF-Infra to make the domain name change (and other
> >> changes if required) and make "netbeans.org" start serving Apache
> content.
> >>
> >> If nobody opposes I'll request this to ASF-Infra within 48h or so.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Antonio
> >>
> >> P.S.: The Oracle content will still be accessible in case of need by
> >> doing a simple local hack to your /etc/hosts file.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
INFRA-17245, please add comments there, if we can indeed do it another
better way, let’s do it, but the way to get Infra to be aware is to comment
there in the issue.
Gj
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 13:27, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 18:22, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > The problem is that a lot of the pages that we were rerouting contained
> > within them links to images and so on, which were on netbeans.org, and
> thus
> > redirected to netbeans.apache.org, and thus broken links, references,
> and
> > images within the pages.
>
> I know. But the proxy suggestion shouldn't have caused this issue
> AFAIK, because it doesn't use redirects. From what I remember, that
> was why it was suggested to us.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
Following up with a question here because I'm not sure for definite if
it's related. I'm updating PraxisLIVE to use NB11 and am using the
bootstrap.url and autoupdate.catalog.url properties to download the
build harness (with addition to automate adding nbjavac). Prior to
the redirects, I'm fairly sure this was working with
https://netbeans.apache.org/nb/updates/11.0/updates.xml.gz as listed
in the Plugin manager. Now it will only work with http and somewhat
temperamentally.
Any thoughts?
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
Everything should be in the INFRA issue, please use that for questions and
follow up.
Gj
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 16:08, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019, 20:48 Antonio, <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
> > Proxy was tried and didn't work because of the way Oracle server is set
> > up. That was about two or three weeks ago, IIRC.
> >
>
> OK. Is there any further info on that somewhere before I comment on the
> issue? The idea of the proxy we were originally suggested by infra was that
> the request to the Oracle server would be indistinguishable from one from
> anywhere else?!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019, 20:48 Antonio, <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Proxy was tried and didn't work because of the way Oracle server is set
> up. That was about two or three weeks ago, IIRC.
>
OK. Is there any further info on that somewhere before I comment on the
issue? The idea of the proxy we were originally suggested by infra was that
the request to the Oracle server would be indistinguishable from one from
anywhere else?!
Best wishes,
Neil
>
Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi,
Proxy was tried and didn't work because of the way Oracle server is set
up. That was about two or three weeks ago, IIRC.
As Geertjan says we don't want to fiddle with the Oracle server anymore,
so that's why we need to upload stuff to avoid missing links.
Hope this clarifies,
Antonio
El 17/04/2019 a las 19:27, Neil C Smith escribió:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 18:22, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> The problem is that a lot of the pages that we were rerouting contained
>> within them links to images and so on, which were on netbeans.org, and thus
>> redirected to netbeans.apache.org, and thus broken links, references, and
>> images within the pages.
>
> I know. But the proxy suggestion shouldn't have caused this issue
> AFAIK, because it doesn't use redirects. From what I remember, that
> was why it was suggested to us.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 18:22, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> The problem is that a lot of the pages that we were rerouting contained
> within them links to images and so on, which were on netbeans.org, and thus
> redirected to netbeans.apache.org, and thus broken links, references, and
> images within the pages.
I know. But the proxy suggestion shouldn't have caused this issue
AFAIK, because it doesn't use redirects. From what I remember, that
was why it was suggested to us.
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
The problem is that a lot of the pages that we were rerouting contained
within them links to images and so on, which were on netbeans.org, and thus
redirected to netbeans.apache.org, and thus broken links, references, and
images within the pages.
We have now identified a lot/most/all problematic areas, are rolling back,
fixing those areas, and then going to try again.
Yes, trial and error, but at least we’re moving forward.
Gj
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 12:56, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 17:40, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > We’re trying to avoid needing to refer to any Oracle server and handle
> > everything on the Apache side.
>
> I realise that's the plan once everything is migrated. But the plan
> discussed with infra in the webchat we had was not (as per OP in this
> thread) to redirect to legacy.netbeans.org. That was something I'd
> originally suggested, but Daniel (I think?) suggested proxying the
> Oracle server and requesting the original link, so no change required
> there. The idea was that anything not here yet wouldn't break in the
> transition period.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 17:40, Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> We’re trying to avoid needing to refer to any Oracle server and handle
> everything on the Apache side.
I realise that's the plan once everything is migrated. But the plan
discussed with infra in the webchat we had was not (as per OP in this
thread) to redirect to legacy.netbeans.org. That was something I'd
originally suggested, but Daniel (I think?) suggested proxying the
Oracle server and requesting the original link, so no change required
there. The idea was that anything not here yet wouldn't break in the
transition period.
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@apache.org>.
We’re trying to avoid needing to refer to any Oracle server and handle
everything on the Apache side.
Gj
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 12:01, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 16:40, Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > I also think there will be all kinds of various deep linking issues that
> we will just have to ignore and have a redirect backup plan for a good 404
> page.
>
> The original plan discussed in the web chat months ago with people
> from infra was that any link that 404'd on the Apache server would be
> requested and passed through (proxied) from the Oracle server. No
> paths should end up in a 404 if they exist on the old server. I
> assume this wasn't what was actually done though?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 17 Apr 2019 at 16:40, Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org> wrote:
> I also think there will be all kinds of various deep linking issues that we will just have to ignore and have a redirect backup plan for a good 404 page.
The original plan discussed in the web chat months ago with people
from infra was that any link that 404'd on the Apache server would be
requested and passed through (proxied) from the Oracle server. No
paths should end up in a 404 if they exist on the old server. I
assume this wasn't what was actually done though?
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Wade Chandler <wa...@apache.org>.
> On Apr 15, 2019, at 5:47 PM, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just to explain that ASF-Infra did setup the rerouting of pages from netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org this EU afternoon.
>
> The rerouting worked well, the appropriate netbeans.org pages were rerouted to the netbeans.apache.org domain correctly.
>
> But
The NS and DTD files I think we have and can quickly move over to new site.
I also think there will be all kinds of various deep linking issues that we will just have to ignore and have a redirect backup plan for a good 404 page.
> some other websites hosted in other subdomains (platform.netbeans.org,
For this one, what about https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-124 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-124> I was thinking we had this ready; I just don’t see the sub-directory any longer in the new site.
> edu.netbeans.org,
Maybe we just reroute this to a sub page with instructions that it is in the process of being moved for now or figured out, but NB is now at Apache, and open for all. I think we could redo this page fairly quickly and separately without any real disruption to anyone. Maybe Ken Fogel would like to help with this one.
> wiki.netbeans.org, ...) stopped working.
Again, maybe not worry about external deep linking, have a good 404 plan, and just point to whatever we’re calling the “Wiki” for this purpose? New world looking forward etc, and invite folks to search the new site for which ever content they may have clicked through to find… http://netbeans.apache.org/wiki/ <http://netbeans.apache.org/wiki/>
>
> This is so because these other websites require certain resources hosted in netbeans.org, these include images, CSS stylesheets and JavaScript files.
>
> As a consequence of the disruption of service in those other sites, ASF-Infra decided to roll-back the changes.
In my opinion we should be able to quickly handle these items given the above.
>
> We're starting a list of resources here:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
>
> An initial PR (platform.netbeans.org) for you to review is here:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/350 <https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/350>
Will check them out.
>
> The plan is to decide which other sites we want to keep (edu.netbeans.org?) and either decide how to reroute those or see which resources are missing. Feel free to add resources in the confluence page above.
I can’t think of any others which are more important than the noted ones and moving on to Apache (plugins of course, but on the plan), but will do some looking.
Thanks,
Wade
Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi all,
Just to explain that ASF-Infra did setup the rerouting of pages from
netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org this EU afternoon.
The rerouting worked well, the appropriate netbeans.org pages were
rerouted to the netbeans.apache.org domain correctly.
But some other websites hosted in other subdomains
(platform.netbeans.org, edu.netbeans.org, wiki.netbeans.org, ...)
stopped working.
This is so because these other websites require certain resources hosted
in netbeans.org, these include images, CSS stylesheets and JavaScript files.
As a consequence of the disruption of service in those other sites,
ASF-Infra decided to roll-back the changes.
We're starting a list of resources here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/netbeans.org+migration
An initial PR (platform.netbeans.org) for you to review is here:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/350
The plan is to decide which other sites we want to keep
(edu.netbeans.org?) and either decide how to reroute those or see which
resources are missing. Feel free to add resources in the confluence page
above.
Thanks,
Antonio
El 13/04/2019 a las 20:17, Antonio escribió:
> Hi all,
>
> This is now assigned to ASF Infra in
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17245
>
> We're awaiting for instructions on how to proceed.
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> El 11/04/2019 a las 7:34, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>> Reroute is fine, I think.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 07:30, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> So do we want to
>>>
>>> A) serve content directly from "https://netbeans.org"
>>> So, for instance, people can navigate to
>>> "https://netbeans.org/community/index.html"
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> B) Make "https://netbeans.org" redirect to
>>> "https://netbeans.apache.org"?
>>> So users are redirected to
>>> "https://netbeans.apache.org/community/index.html"
>>>
>>> After some conversations with @fluxo in the ASF-Infra chat [1], it seems
>>> solution A) above (using netbeans.org to serve content) will require
>>> some extra approval from the ASF-Infra administrator.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Antonio
>>>
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1554958859575300
>>>
>>> El 10/04/2019 a las 23:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>>> +1, let’s get it done.
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 21:57, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> As you may know netbeans.org currently holds the Oracle website.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our initial plan was to make this "Oracle netbeans.org" website to
>>> start
>>>>> serving under the "legacy.netbeans.org" domain, and then create an
>>>>> "Apache netbeans.org" that could redirect missing pages to
>>>>> "legacy.netbeans.org".
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that making the change "Oracle netbeans.org" ->
>>>>> "legacy.netbeans.org" seems more complicated than we initially
>>>>> anticipated. The web server is setup in such a way that only works
>>>>> with
>>>>> the "netbeans.org" domain. And making it start serving in
>>>>> "legacy.netbeans.org" would require Oracle doing things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since we already have lots of content in netbeans.apache.org, maybe
>>> it's
>>>>> simpler to request ASF-Infra to make the domain name change (and other
>>>>> changes if required) and make "netbeans.org" start serving Apache
>>> content.
>>>>>
>>>>> If nobody opposes I'll request this to ASF-Infra within 48h or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Antonio
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S.: The Oracle content will still be accessible in case of need by
>>>>> doing a simple local hack to your /etc/hosts file.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi all,
This is now assigned to ASF Infra in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17245
We're awaiting for instructions on how to proceed.
Cheers,
Antonio
El 11/04/2019 a las 7:34, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> Reroute is fine, I think.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 07:30, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So do we want to
>>
>> A) serve content directly from "https://netbeans.org"
>> So, for instance, people can navigate to
>> "https://netbeans.org/community/index.html"
>>
>> or
>>
>> B) Make "https://netbeans.org" redirect to "https://netbeans.apache.org"?
>> So users are redirected to
>> "https://netbeans.apache.org/community/index.html"
>>
>> After some conversations with @fluxo in the ASF-Infra chat [1], it seems
>> solution A) above (using netbeans.org to serve content) will require
>> some extra approval from the ASF-Infra administrator.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Antonio
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1554958859575300
>>
>> El 10/04/2019 a las 23:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>>> +1, let’s get it done.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 21:57, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> As you may know netbeans.org currently holds the Oracle website.
>>>>
>>>> Our initial plan was to make this "Oracle netbeans.org" website to
>> start
>>>> serving under the "legacy.netbeans.org" domain, and then create an
>>>> "Apache netbeans.org" that could redirect missing pages to
>>>> "legacy.netbeans.org".
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that making the change "Oracle netbeans.org" ->
>>>> "legacy.netbeans.org" seems more complicated than we initially
>>>> anticipated. The web server is setup in such a way that only works with
>>>> the "netbeans.org" domain. And making it start serving in
>>>> "legacy.netbeans.org" would require Oracle doing things.
>>>>
>>>> Since we already have lots of content in netbeans.apache.org, maybe
>> it's
>>>> simpler to request ASF-Infra to make the domain name change (and other
>>>> changes if required) and make "netbeans.org" start serving Apache
>> content.
>>>>
>>>> If nobody opposes I'll request this to ASF-Infra within 48h or so.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Antonio
>>>>
>>>> P.S.: The Oracle content will still be accessible in case of need by
>>>> doing a simple local hack to your /etc/hosts file.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
Reroute is fine, I think.
Gj
On Thu, 11 Apr 2019 at 07:30, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So do we want to
>
> A) serve content directly from "https://netbeans.org"
> So, for instance, people can navigate to
> "https://netbeans.org/community/index.html"
>
> or
>
> B) Make "https://netbeans.org" redirect to "https://netbeans.apache.org"?
> So users are redirected to
> "https://netbeans.apache.org/community/index.html"
>
> After some conversations with @fluxo in the ASF-Infra chat [1], it seems
> solution A) above (using netbeans.org to serve content) will require
> some extra approval from the ASF-Infra administrator.
>
> Thanks,
> Antonio
>
>
> [1]
> https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1554958859575300
>
> El 10/04/2019 a las 23:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> > +1, let’s get it done.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 21:57, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> As you may know netbeans.org currently holds the Oracle website.
> >>
> >> Our initial plan was to make this "Oracle netbeans.org" website to
> start
> >> serving under the "legacy.netbeans.org" domain, and then create an
> >> "Apache netbeans.org" that could redirect missing pages to
> >> "legacy.netbeans.org".
> >>
> >> The problem is that making the change "Oracle netbeans.org" ->
> >> "legacy.netbeans.org" seems more complicated than we initially
> >> anticipated. The web server is setup in such a way that only works with
> >> the "netbeans.org" domain. And making it start serving in
> >> "legacy.netbeans.org" would require Oracle doing things.
> >>
> >> Since we already have lots of content in netbeans.apache.org, maybe
> it's
> >> simpler to request ASF-Infra to make the domain name change (and other
> >> changes if required) and make "netbeans.org" start serving Apache
> content.
> >>
> >> If nobody opposes I'll request this to ASF-Infra within 48h or so.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Antonio
> >>
> >> P.S.: The Oracle content will still be accessible in case of need by
> >> doing a simple local hack to your /etc/hosts file.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Antonio <an...@vieiro.net>.
Hi all,
So do we want to
A) serve content directly from "https://netbeans.org"
So, for instance, people can navigate to
"https://netbeans.org/community/index.html"
or
B) Make "https://netbeans.org" redirect to "https://netbeans.apache.org"?
So users are redirected to
"https://netbeans.apache.org/community/index.html"
After some conversations with @fluxo in the ASF-Infra chat [1], it seems
solution A) above (using netbeans.org to serve content) will require
some extra approval from the ASF-Infra administrator.
Thanks,
Antonio
[1]
https://the-asf.slack.com/archives/CBX4TSBQ8/p1554958859575300
El 10/04/2019 a las 23:55, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
> +1, let’s get it done.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 21:57, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As you may know netbeans.org currently holds the Oracle website.
>>
>> Our initial plan was to make this "Oracle netbeans.org" website to start
>> serving under the "legacy.netbeans.org" domain, and then create an
>> "Apache netbeans.org" that could redirect missing pages to
>> "legacy.netbeans.org".
>>
>> The problem is that making the change "Oracle netbeans.org" ->
>> "legacy.netbeans.org" seems more complicated than we initially
>> anticipated. The web server is setup in such a way that only works with
>> the "netbeans.org" domain. And making it start serving in
>> "legacy.netbeans.org" would require Oracle doing things.
>>
>> Since we already have lots of content in netbeans.apache.org, maybe it's
>> simpler to request ASF-Infra to make the domain name change (and other
>> changes if required) and make "netbeans.org" start serving Apache content.
>>
>> If nobody opposes I'll request this to ASF-Infra within 48h or so.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Antonio
>>
>> P.S.: The Oracle content will still be accessible in case of need by
>> doing a simple local hack to your /etc/hosts file.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com.INVALID>.
+1, let’s get it done.
Gj
On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 21:57, Antonio <an...@vieiro.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As you may know netbeans.org currently holds the Oracle website.
>
> Our initial plan was to make this "Oracle netbeans.org" website to start
> serving under the "legacy.netbeans.org" domain, and then create an
> "Apache netbeans.org" that could redirect missing pages to
> "legacy.netbeans.org".
>
> The problem is that making the change "Oracle netbeans.org" ->
> "legacy.netbeans.org" seems more complicated than we initially
> anticipated. The web server is setup in such a way that only works with
> the "netbeans.org" domain. And making it start serving in
> "legacy.netbeans.org" would require Oracle doing things.
>
> Since we already have lots of content in netbeans.apache.org, maybe it's
> simpler to request ASF-Infra to make the domain name change (and other
> changes if required) and make "netbeans.org" start serving Apache content.
>
> If nobody opposes I'll request this to ASF-Infra within 48h or so.
>
> Thanks,
> Antonio
>
> P.S.: The Oracle content will still be accessible in case of need by
> doing a simple local hack to your /etc/hosts file.
>
>
>
>
>
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