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What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack

Hi All,

What is the best suited hypervisor for CloudStack?
I mean what CloudStack recommended for CloudStack, is it  Xen or KVM.

Thanks
Jewel

Re: How to create empty guest VM

Posted by Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>.
Take a look at http://ipxe.org/ it should enable you to create a boot ISO which behaves like a PXE boot, I've not tried it yet with CloudStack, but I have used (different) boot images in the past when I have had problems using PXE on old hardware


Kind Regards

Geoff Higginbottom
CTO / Cloud Architect

geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com | www.shapeblue.com

ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS



On 12 Jun 2012, at 01:28, "Jewel Nuruddin" <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Nope, PXE boot load image from remote pc(or centerl image).

--- On Tue, 6/12/12, Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com> wrote:


From: Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>
Subject: RE: How to create empty guest VM
To: "cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 1:26 AM


Most PXE Boot systems enable you to create a PXE Boot Image, you can then upload the ISO to CloudStack and boot from that.

Geoff


-----Original Message-----
From: Jewel Nuruddin [mailto:jewel.nuruddin@yahoo.com]
Sent: 11 June 2012 17:15
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to create empty guest VM

Thank you very much,
But I could not crate a vm without ISO or template.
Yes my intention is to install guest OS from PXE boot.

Thanks
Jewel

--- On Tue, 6/12/12, Ahmad Emneina <Ah...@citrix.com> wrote:

From: Ahmad Emneina <Ah...@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: How to create empty guest VM
To: "cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 1:08 AM

Deploying from an ISO, via cloudstack, is effectively booting an 'empty'/OS-less vm. Is there something specific you want to do after booting a vm with no OS?

--
æ





On 6/11/12 9:03 AM, "Jewel Nuruddin" <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Is there any way to create an empty guest VM in CloudStack.
>
> Thanks
> Jewel

ShapeBlue provides a range of strategic and technical consulting and implementation services to help IT Service Providers and Enterprises to build a true IaaS compute cloud. ShapeBlue’s expertise, combined with CloudStack technology, allows IT Service Providers and Enterprises to deliver true, utility based, IaaS to the customer or end-user.

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RE: How to create empty guest VM

Posted by Jewel Nuruddin <je...@yahoo.com>.
Nope, PXE boot load image from remote pc(or centerl image).

--- On Tue, 6/12/12, Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com> wrote:


From: Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>
Subject: RE: How to create empty guest VM
To: "cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 1:26 AM


Most PXE Boot systems enable you to create a PXE Boot Image, you can then upload the ISO to CloudStack and boot from that.

Geoff


-----Original Message-----
From: Jewel Nuruddin [mailto:jewel.nuruddin@yahoo.com]
Sent: 11 June 2012 17:15
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to create empty guest VM

Thank you very much,
But I could not crate a vm without ISO or template.
Yes my intention is to install guest OS from PXE boot.

Thanks
Jewel

--- On Tue, 6/12/12, Ahmad Emneina <Ah...@citrix.com> wrote:

From: Ahmad Emneina <Ah...@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: How to create empty guest VM
To: "cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 1:08 AM

Deploying from an ISO, via cloudstack, is effectively booting an 'empty'/OS-less vm. Is there something specific you want to do after booting a vm with no OS?

--
æ





On 6/11/12 9:03 AM, "Jewel Nuruddin" <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Is there any way to create an empty guest VM in CloudStack.
>
>Thanks
>Jewel

ShapeBlue provides a range of strategic and technical consulting and implementation services to help IT Service Providers and Enterprises to build a true IaaS compute cloud. ShapeBlue’s expertise, combined with CloudStack technology, allows IT Service Providers and Enterprises to deliver true, utility based, IaaS to the customer or end-user.

________________________________

This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales.

RE: How to create empty guest VM

Posted by Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>.
Most PXE Boot systems enable you to create a PXE Boot Image, you can then upload the ISO to CloudStack and boot from that.

Geoff


-----Original Message-----
From: Jewel Nuruddin [mailto:jewel.nuruddin@yahoo.com]
Sent: 11 June 2012 17:15
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to create empty guest VM

Thank you very much,
But I could not crate a vm without ISO or template.
Yes my intention is to install guest OS from PXE boot.

Thanks
Jewel

--- On Tue, 6/12/12, Ahmad Emneina <Ah...@citrix.com> wrote:

From: Ahmad Emneina <Ah...@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: How to create empty guest VM
To: "cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 1:08 AM

Deploying from an ISO, via cloudstack, is effectively booting an 'empty'/OS-less vm. Is there something specific you want to do after booting a vm with no OS?

--
æ





On 6/11/12 9:03 AM, "Jewel Nuruddin" <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Is there any way to create an empty guest VM in CloudStack.
>
>Thanks
>Jewel

ShapeBlue provides a range of strategic and technical consulting and implementation services to help IT Service Providers and Enterprises to build a true IaaS compute cloud. ShapeBlue’s expertise, combined with CloudStack technology, allows IT Service Providers and Enterprises to deliver true, utility based, IaaS to the customer or end-user.

________________________________

This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales.

Re: How to create empty guest VM

Posted by Jewel Nuruddin <je...@yahoo.com>.
Thank you very much,
But I could not crate a vm without ISO or template.
Yes my intention is to install guest OS from PXE boot.

Thanks
Jewel 

--- On Tue, 6/12/12, Ahmad Emneina <Ah...@citrix.com> wrote:

From: Ahmad Emneina <Ah...@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: How to create empty guest VM
To: "cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 1:08 AM

Deploying from an ISO, via cloudstack, is effectively booting an
'empty'/OS-less vm. Is there something specific you want to do after
booting a vm with no OS?

-- 
æ





On 6/11/12 9:03 AM, "Jewel Nuruddin" <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Is there any way to create an empty guest VM in CloudStack.
>
>Thanks
>Jewel


Re: How to create empty guest VM

Posted by Ahmad Emneina <Ah...@citrix.com>.
Deploying from an ISO, via cloudstack, is effectively booting an
'empty'/OS-less vm. Is there something specific you want to do after
booting a vm with no OS?

-- 
æ





On 6/11/12 9:03 AM, "Jewel Nuruddin" <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>Is there any way to create an empty guest VM in CloudStack.
>
>Thanks
>Jewel


How to create empty guest VM

Posted by Jewel Nuruddin <je...@yahoo.com>.
Hi All,

Is there any way to create an empty guest VM in CloudStack.

Thanks
Jewel

Re: What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack

Posted by Jason Davis <sc...@gmail.com>.
Again, CloudStack aims to be hypervisior agnostic. I would suggest testing
both and seeing what works best for you.

Personally, I am partial to XenServer/XCP.  :)
On Jun 9, 2012 9:17 PM, "Jewel Nuruddin" <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks for the comments but I want to know exactly which hypervisor is
> working more fine with CloudStack, there must be one which is recommended
> by cloudstack.
> Thanks
> Jewel
>
> --- On Sun, 6/10/12, sebastien goasguen <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: sebastien goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack
> To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: "cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org" <
> cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> Date: Sunday, June 10, 2012, 4:20 AM
>
> Cloudstack is hypervisor agnostic (at least aims to be)
>
> Choose the hypervisor you prefer
>
> -sebastien
>
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Jewel Nuruddin
> <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > What is the best suited hypervisor for CloudStack?
> > I mean what CloudStack recommended for CloudStack, is it  Xen or KVM.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Jewel
>
>
>
> --
> ---
> Sebastien Goasguen, Associate Professor
> Clemson University, USA
> 864-553-4734
> http://sites.google.com/site/runseb/
>

Re: What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack

Posted by Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>.
Whilst I build systems on all the supported Hypervisors, I prefer XenServer, and with my PXE config, I can deploy multiple new XenServers in a matter of minutes

The upcoming incremental snapshots feature, only on XenServer, also makes a good use case for Xen.

Geoff

On 12 Jun 2012, at 19:04, "Sheng Yang" <sh...@yasker.org> wrote:

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Jewel Nuruddin
> <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for the comments but I want to know exactly which hypervisor is working more fine with CloudStack, there must be one which is recommended by cloudstack.
>> Thanks
>> Jewel
>>
>
>
> It really depends on what your goal is for your cloud. Many folks have
> 2 or more hypervisors in their cloud for that very reason.
>
> I personally find KVM to be the most flexible of all three, XenServer
> to be the most performant, and VMware to be least libre and most
> enterprise embraced.
>
> If I didn't have a specific demand to fill from a hypervisor
> perspective, I'd start with the hypervisor that you know the best -
> you can always add a different one later. :)

Personally I found KVM is very good for prototype development/generic
issue debug, the redeployment is very fast, which is good for
developer. But Xen and VMware are better at performance and stability.

--Sheng
>
> --David

ShapeBlue provides a range of strategic and technical consulting and implementation services to help IT Service Providers and Enterprises to build a true IaaS compute cloud. ShapeBlue’s expertise, combined with CloudStack technology, allows IT Service Providers and Enterprises to deliver true, utility based, IaaS to the customer or end-user.

________________________________

This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales.

Re: What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack

Posted by Sheng Yang <sh...@yasker.org>.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Jewel Nuruddin
> <je...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Thanks for the comments but I want to know exactly which hypervisor is working more fine with CloudStack, there must be one which is recommended by cloudstack.
>> Thanks
>> Jewel
>>
>
>
> It really depends on what your goal is for your cloud. Many folks have
> 2 or more hypervisors in their cloud for that very reason.
>
> I personally find KVM to be the most flexible of all three, XenServer
> to be the most performant, and VMware to be least libre and most
> enterprise embraced.
>
> If I didn't have a specific demand to fill from a hypervisor
> perspective, I'd start with the hypervisor that you know the best -
> you can always add a different one later. :)

Personally I found KVM is very good for prototype development/generic
issue debug, the redeployment is very fast, which is good for
developer. But Xen and VMware are better at performance and stability.

--Sheng
>
> --David

Re: What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack

Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Jewel Nuruddin
<je...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks for the comments but I want to know exactly which hypervisor is working more fine with CloudStack, there must be one which is recommended by cloudstack.
> Thanks
> Jewel
>


It really depends on what your goal is for your cloud. Many folks have
2 or more hypervisors in their cloud for that very reason.

I personally find KVM to be the most flexible of all three, XenServer
to be the most performant, and VMware to be least libre and most
enterprise embraced.

If I didn't have a specific demand to fill from a hypervisor
perspective, I'd start with the hypervisor that you know the best -
you can always add a different one later. :)

--David

Re: What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack

Posted by Jewel Nuruddin <je...@yahoo.com>.
Hi,
Thanks for the comments but I want to know exactly which hypervisor is working more fine with CloudStack, there must be one which is recommended by cloudstack.
Thanks
Jewel

--- On Sun, 6/10/12, sebastien goasguen <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: sebastien goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Cc: "cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Sunday, June 10, 2012, 4:20 AM

Cloudstack is hypervisor agnostic (at least aims to be)

Choose the hypervisor you prefer

-sebastien

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Jewel Nuruddin
<je...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> What is the best suited hypervisor for CloudStack?
> I mean what CloudStack recommended for CloudStack, is it  Xen or KVM.
>
> Thanks
> Jewel



-- 
---
Sebastien Goasguen, Associate Professor
Clemson University, USA
864-553-4734
http://sites.google.com/site/runseb/

Re: What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack

Posted by Jewel Nuruddin <je...@yahoo.com>.
Hi,
Thanks for the comments but I want to know exactly which hypervisor is working more fine with CloudStack, there must be one which is recommended by cloudstack.
Thanks
Jewel

--- On Sun, 6/10/12, sebastien goasguen <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: sebastien goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Cc: "cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Sunday, June 10, 2012, 4:20 AM

Cloudstack is hypervisor agnostic (at least aims to be)

Choose the hypervisor you prefer

-sebastien

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Jewel Nuruddin
<je...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> What is the best suited hypervisor for CloudStack?
> I mean what CloudStack recommended for CloudStack, is it  Xen or KVM.
>
> Thanks
> Jewel



-- 
---
Sebastien Goasguen, Associate Professor
Clemson University, USA
864-553-4734
http://sites.google.com/site/runseb/

Re: What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack

Posted by sebastien goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>.
Cloudstack is hypervisor agnostic (at least aims to be)

Choose the hypervisor you prefer

-sebastien

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Jewel Nuruddin
<je...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> What is the best suited hypervisor for CloudStack?
> I mean what CloudStack recommended for CloudStack, is it  Xen or KVM.
>
> Thanks
> Jewel



-- 
---
Sebastien Goasguen, Associate Professor
Clemson University, USA
864-553-4734
http://sites.google.com/site/runseb/

Re: What is the best hypervisor for CloudStack

Posted by sebastien goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>.
Cloudstack is hypervisor agnostic (at least aims to be)

Choose the hypervisor you prefer

-sebastien

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Jewel Nuruddin
<je...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> What is the best suited hypervisor for CloudStack?
> I mean what CloudStack recommended for CloudStack, is it  Xen or KVM.
>
> Thanks
> Jewel



-- 
---
Sebastien Goasguen, Associate Professor
Clemson University, USA
864-553-4734
http://sites.google.com/site/runseb/